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	Comments on: House Judiciary Committee Submission of Chrissie Carnell-Bixler and Valerie Haney	</title>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381800</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 05:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381648&quot;&gt;Susan Harbison&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t let the cult tape it and say they will give you a copy. Their Tech taping people have to be in good standing too and will falsify or (accidently) erase anything bad said about them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381648">Susan Harbison</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let the cult tape it and say they will give you a copy. Their Tech taping people have to be in good standing too and will falsify or (accidently) erase anything bad said about them.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381799</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 04:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381769&quot;&gt;Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

You can bet your ass (and mine too) that the cult will record it. They have to, if nothing else for the Compliance Report.   
    Since DM is involved in the case I can only imagine that he will demand to hear every word. 
    Should the &quot;Arbitration&quot; fail to hang those people who dared question and even sue DM heads will roll. Heads will roll either way, the only question is Who&#039;s head.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381769">Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass</a>.</p>
<p>You can bet your ass (and mine too) that the cult will record it. They have to, if nothing else for the Compliance Report.<br />
    Since DM is involved in the case I can only imagine that he will demand to hear every word.<br />
    Should the &#8220;Arbitration&#8221; fail to hang those people who dared question and even sue DM heads will roll. Heads will roll either way, the only question is Who&#8217;s head.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill StraassTell		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381774</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill StraassTell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 01:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381669&quot;&gt;Peridot&lt;/a&gt;.

I actually envy you, Peridot. I have not been able to cry about anything in 40 years. Maybe some auditing could handle that. 
     All I can do is fight or die and I have done both of those. 
     Don&#039;t get the idea that I don&#039;t care. I feel bad about it; I just cannot cry about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381669">Peridot</a>.</p>
<p>I actually envy you, Peridot. I have not been able to cry about anything in 40 years. Maybe some auditing could handle that.<br />
     All I can do is fight or die and I have done both of those.<br />
     Don&#8217;t get the idea that I don&#8217;t care. I feel bad about it; I just cannot cry about it.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381770</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2021 23:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381769&quot;&gt;Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

I can see those falking cockaroaches refusing to give a copy of the recording to all parties as it is &quot;Out-Security&quot;. 
     I don&#039;t give a talk if the whole room has to be bugged, the only reason they would not allow a recording is to cover up the crimes they intend to commit]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381769">Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass</a>.</p>
<p>I can see those falking cockaroaches refusing to give a copy of the recording to all parties as it is &#8220;Out-Security&#8221;.<br />
     I don&#8217;t give a talk if the whole room has to be bugged, the only reason they would not allow a recording is to cover up the crimes they intend to commit</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2021 23:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381644&quot;&gt;Susan Harbison&lt;/a&gt;.

Ja wohl. A very important point. Records must be kept and a tape made of all proceedings. This I believe is in policy and was done in all Comm-Evs I was on. 
    This was critical to show that the Committee called on me were a bunch of lying cockaroaches (They were probably ordered to lie).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381644">Susan Harbison</a>.</p>
<p>Ja wohl. A very important point. Records must be kept and a tape made of all proceedings. This I believe is in policy and was done in all Comm-Evs I was on.<br />
    This was critical to show that the Committee called on me were a bunch of lying cockaroaches (They were probably ordered to lie).</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381767</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2021 23:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381613&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Das ist sehr gut, Mein Herr. 
     A Comm-Ev in my limited experience ( I have done about 20 and received one)  is an action where a group of people is called upon to take action on an individual; somewhat like a firing squad.  They are chosen by the Convening Authority for their willingness or ability to provide what is needed and wanted i.e. a conviction and destruction of the Interested Party. 
     In the very 1st one I did at Flag in late 1979; the Committee failed to send the I/P to the RPF.  (He was already in the RPF, sent there by COCMOFLB. 
     Next thing you know the Committee is being held again; this time with the names of the 1st Committee added as Interested Parties. The second Committee did not do much to the 1st Committee; they had basically the same findings as we did. 
    Later I did a few Committees where we, the Committee were threatened if we failed to hang the I/P.  
      In the last Comm-Ev I was the Interested Party. The Committee lied and said that I pleaded Guilty to a High Crime. 
     I demanded a Review Comm-Ev which took over a year and was finally held After I was sent off the Freewinds to die of AIDS. 
     The Review Comm-Ev heard the tapes where I clearly pleaded Not-Guilty of the charge. They found me Not-Guilty. But they had to throw some irrelevant Bullshit in their F and Rs because they couldn&#039;t just tell the truth that the original Committee was crooked and lied..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381613">Rip Van Winkle</a>.</p>
<p>Das ist sehr gut, Mein Herr.<br />
     A Comm-Ev in my limited experience ( I have done about 20 and received one)  is an action where a group of people is called upon to take action on an individual; somewhat like a firing squad.  They are chosen by the Convening Authority for their willingness or ability to provide what is needed and wanted i.e. a conviction and destruction of the Interested Party.<br />
     In the very 1st one I did at Flag in late 1979; the Committee failed to send the I/P to the RPF.  (He was already in the RPF, sent there by COCMOFLB.<br />
     Next thing you know the Committee is being held again; this time with the names of the 1st Committee added as Interested Parties. The second Committee did not do much to the 1st Committee; they had basically the same findings as we did.<br />
    Later I did a few Committees where we, the Committee were threatened if we failed to hang the I/P.<br />
      In the last Comm-Ev I was the Interested Party. The Committee lied and said that I pleaded Guilty to a High Crime.<br />
     I demanded a Review Comm-Ev which took over a year and was finally held After I was sent off the Freewinds to die of AIDS.<br />
     The Review Comm-Ev heard the tapes where I clearly pleaded Not-Guilty of the charge. They found me Not-Guilty. But they had to throw some irrelevant Bullshit in their F and Rs because they couldn&#8217;t just tell the truth that the original Committee was crooked and lied..</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peridot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 22:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Mike, for link to the House Judiciary Committee members. Thank you, ISONOI News, for your note around Tony Ortega covering public mention of this case by former Fox News personality, Gretchen Carlson. She includes this case against DM II in her remarks to federal lawmakers. 

After done sobbing for what Valerie and Chrissie (plus, Chrissie&#039;s family and two pets) have been through, I will do my part and reach out to these committee members. These written testimonials are substantive and powerful. I agree with the sentiment that talking to a staffer in a Congressperson&#039;s office contributes to the traction here. I believe a reasoned, intelligent person calling to weigh in and participate in the process is something staffers welcome and respect. I have had success talking to staffers, and when they tell me they are noting down what I am saying, I believe them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mike, for link to the House Judiciary Committee members. Thank you, ISONOI News, for your note around Tony Ortega covering public mention of this case by former Fox News personality, Gretchen Carlson. She includes this case against DM II in her remarks to federal lawmakers. </p>
<p>After done sobbing for what Valerie and Chrissie (plus, Chrissie&#8217;s family and two pets) have been through, I will do my part and reach out to these committee members. These written testimonials are substantive and powerful. I agree with the sentiment that talking to a staffer in a Congressperson&#8217;s office contributes to the traction here. I believe a reasoned, intelligent person calling to weigh in and participate in the process is something staffers welcome and respect. I have had success talking to staffers, and when they tell me they are noting down what I am saying, I believe them.</p>
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		By: Susan Harbison		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381648</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Harbison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 18:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381583&quot;&gt;Jay Tee&lt;/a&gt;.

They have the right to have a court reporter present, but if the cult tapes it they also have the right to tape it.]]></description>
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<p>They have the right to have a court reporter present, but if the cult tapes it they also have the right to tape it.</p>
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		By: Susan Harbison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Harbison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 18:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381587&quot;&gt;Cherish&lt;/a&gt;.

Clergy are already mandatory reporters in 36 states, which include CA and FL.]]></description>
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<p>Clergy are already mandatory reporters in 36 states, which include CA and FL.</p>
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		By: Susan Harbison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Harbison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 18:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/house-judiciary-committee-submission-of-chrissie-carnell-bixler/#comment-381613&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

If they tape an arb proceeding they have to allow the other party to tape it.]]></description>
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<p>If they tape an arb proceeding they have to allow the other party to tape it.</p>
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