As a never gonna be in, and member of the US Navy, I was only stating the fact that we call Sailors who haven’t crossed the equator wogs. Please do not be offended if you’re from anywhere it is considered offensive, I am uncultured swine and know very little of the world outside America.

Mr. G, that possible etymology has been brought up in the past, but it’s ultimately tangential, at most.

Your explanation of how it was still demeaning or derogatory even in the context of the Navy, shows that it’s nonetheless highly inappropriate – particularly when it comes to use by a nominally humanitarian and spiritual group.

And as I’ve pointed out elsewhere, regardless of how Hubbard came upon word, it’s beyond the pale and totally cult-y, that once he got to England where many people would have been quite familiar with the nasty, perjorative connotations of the term (it was infamously used there in the late 1940s), that he not only continued to use it, but that none of his more savvy followers raised enough of a stink to get its used discontinued.

Imagine, for instance, that a foreign guru who’d only run across use of the n-word in American popular music and didn’t fully understand its implications, came to the US and started using it to refer to non-adherents.

I agree.

I guess we all have our areas of weakness… I’ve always considered weight as something one can control with willpower and determination. I’ve quit smoking and have also lost weight, and quitting smoking was much harder. But maybe I’m also genetically blessed – we don’t have lots of obesity on either side…. I dunno, but I do have obstinate willpower when needed.
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I worked in HCO, Qual, and have been a senior exec as well a a bunch of other areas and orgs…. so my comment was just a spewing of what came to mind in response to this part of yours:

‘Now, the cult doesn’t care how fat Kirstie Alley is so long as she keeps donating. ”

…unbidden, the old “unreasonable attitude” was just THERE, and I spewed the mindset I would have had and acted upon had Kirstie been routed to me.

As I work on stripping scn off myself and opening my mind to the ideas of others and history…. I tend to purposefully stay away from thinking the old thoughts…. I try to stay away from examining things “from the old viewpoint” … and included in that is trying to not use any cult words.

I know these are important steps in freeing oneself. So in a way, I kick myself when I DO just spew the cult think and mindset. …

I can be conflicted about this……

but communicating the exact crazy mindset and actions is also helpful, ..sometimes Never Ins seem to appreciate it…and sometimes it can point up to me how far I’ve come… how differently I feel and think now.

Thanks for chatting.

Gotta buzz!

‘Wog’ in the US Navy refers to someone who has not crossed the equator thus becoming a ‘shellback’. Often times there are other words before wog such as ‘filthy disgusting wog’.

-shellback

Tom Cruise is the “only one who can help” with exploded bodies all over the road.

After all, a simple touch assist will miraculously bring those people back to life.

Isn’t that amazing? It’s almost like he’s utterly delusional and full of shit.

It’s like being Jesus or God in a cult selling stuff for money.

Mammon counts the numbers involved.

You’re right, OSD! Thanks for providing a reminder of this. I needed it 🙂

Rip, I hear you, but you know, in the end, after all the training, MU finding, auditing, etc., it comes down to one thing: will power. They body is the body. Its a body. It craves what it craves. You have to retrain it, manage it, be in control of it.
You just decide that you are in control of your body. You don’t have to be a Scientologist to do this. All you need is a very strong desire to eat less, eat healthy, stick with it and succeed. You have to tell the body that its not going to die if it doesn’t get that lasagna or cheese danish. You have to pull a Nancy Reagan with food and “just say no”. Or, you eat the lasagna but only a very small portion. Portion control works for some people, others not. There are millions of diets and eating plans out there. They all work.
There’s a plan for every one. The thing is, sticking to it. Nothing’s going to work if you can’t stick with it. Scientologists or not, some people have the will power, others don’t.