The only busy org I know, having personally visited it a couple of years ago, is Milan, Italy; it was a busy place with lots of staff and public, but I also saw several Sea Org members there, kicking butt to keep production going. Maybe it’s just an exception.

About the “fists” thing, I have been thrown to a wall and threatened of being punched by CO CLO Europe, about 10 years ago, while 7 execs were watching and doing nothing to stop him.

CO CLO Europe (a former one, not the one who is now on that post) was quite famous for getting physical on his staff or anyone else who did upset him for any reason. I was told several anecdotes of people experiencing his rage and fists, but I saw just a couple of those rage bursts personally.

Same thing happened with a CMO Int missionaire once (same time period), he pushed me badly to a wall because i kept calm and didn’t go “victim” about his screaming, but we were alone and I pushed him back, so he didn’t dare to continue attacking me. I received a long ethics handling after that, despite having very good statistics.

Some time before, the whole base did a “discipline program” (it was really called that way) in which we did marching drills with commands given very rapidly, late at night after a whole day of work. Every time somebody flunked a command or executed it too slowly we (all the team) did a set of pushups, then continued with the marching drills… you can imagine how many people flunked because of the physical exhaustion. Every night we continued until we were totally broken, sometimes for two hours. It lasted several weeks.

The only one I saw is Milan Org, Italy. If you checked all the US ones and there is none that is somehow operational, maybe it is just an exception.

I visited it a couple of years ago and it was a very busy place with lots of staff members and public, in addition to several Sea Org members running missions.

jere I’ve seen ice on streets in CW during day time.

SPeaking my Truth said, “should also mention that some (few) orgs will continue to have lots of staff and produce well,”

We’ve examined EVERY org in the USA there are none that fit that description What are you talking about/

Mary, 268 staff to service NO public is probably the ideal in Dwarfenführer’s puny little diseased mind.

Jim, a good scientologist never sees anything than what has been prepared for the “proles”, never looks outside the bubble, and he immediately looks elsewhere if some bit of the TRUTH or other aspect of the REAL world presents itself.

“Truth”, you seem to say that there are a few orgs doing well…. Care to share which one?
And, are there actual times when fists were involved in stat pushes which you have seen? I gotta stop there or I’ll have you churning out a whole article. Not that Mike would mind another contributor, I expect. “Fists” gets my attention, since they weren’t needed when I was “in”; lower conditions were more than enough punishment.

Francis, Beings get bored if there’s no game for them anymore. The trick, I bet, is to find ANOTHER game to play, one more suited to the being’s new powers. In the Real World, however, folks get TIRED of the false “emergency” declarations, impossible tasks which have to get done immediately, and all the other rah, RAH garbage they went through to get where they are. Tired; Bored. Same thing, same old,same old.

Miscavige will NEVER take the stand…he will pay big $ first. These are civil lawsuits not criminal so even though he can be subpoenaed he can end the whole affair by offering a sum that the other party accepts. They can ask for a jury trial but I have a feeling that Miscavige will put up a ‘show fight’ then settle and it will be big. He is now dodging process servers in the US but I believe he will not return to the US any time soon since he has made it to England. He has endless options of places to stay in various countries and on the Freewinds.

I have wondered the same thing. They are pummeled for donations to ‘expand’ but there’s not been a ‘new’ Org (church) built in many years. Hell I live in a tiny town in NC…less than 30,000 people in the whole county which has several small towns. Here we have a JW Kingdom Hall and an LDS (Mormon) church as well as Seventh Day Adventists and they are always full. Where is the COS? There is no representation in NC at all. Small towns were supposed to have missions that fed the big Orgs in Cities. Miscavige killed the mission program back in the 80’s and it’s never recovered. Most of the South (except FL) has no COS presence at all. How do the COS public not see this and not ask when they are being gouged for money endlessly? Aquamarine gives the best and probably only explanation there is in their response to this question…they don’t see it because they’re told WHAT TO SEE. It almost like Orwell’s 1984.