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		By: Imaberrated		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2023 23:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514445&quot;&gt;John Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

I never examined my cognitive dissonance that I couldn’t explain Scientology to people, “because it was weird”, my literal phrase used when contemplating doing so, until I was out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514445">John Doe</a>.</p>
<p>I never examined my cognitive dissonance that I couldn’t explain Scientology to people, “because it was weird”, my literal phrase used when contemplating doing so, until I was out.</p>
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		By: John Doe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny, that only after I realized I was no longer interested in doing scientology was I able to talk to people about it.  Not necessarily only complaining, just honest expression of the experience I had with it.

When I was still in, just the mention of the word Scientology by somebody could send a jolt of alarm through my body.

My body was trying to tell me something and eventually it got through!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, that only after I realized I was no longer interested in doing scientology was I able to talk to people about it.  Not necessarily only complaining, just honest expression of the experience I had with it.</p>
<p>When I was still in, just the mention of the word Scientology by somebody could send a jolt of alarm through my body.</p>
<p>My body was trying to tell me something and eventually it got through!</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514324</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 23:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514188&quot;&gt;Peridot&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, and particularly as a coveted celebrity, Moss has likely been both shielded from the really ugly manipulative and abuse practices, and treated to a &quot;dilettante&quot; version of Scientology in which she&#039;s been and allowed to do and believe whatever she wants.  She may for instance even know some of the other pampered celebs who are allowed to get away with things like having same-sex relationships, that even thoughts about would get a regular member or staffer in real trouble.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514188">Peridot</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, and particularly as a coveted celebrity, Moss has likely been both shielded from the really ugly manipulative and abuse practices, and treated to a &#8220;dilettante&#8221; version of Scientology in which she&#8217;s been and allowed to do and believe whatever she wants.  She may for instance even know some of the other pampered celebs who are allowed to get away with things like having same-sex relationships, that even thoughts about would get a regular member or staffer in real trouble.</p>
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		By: Yawn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 17:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514238&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes indeed.
It all makes a mockery of Hubbard&#039;s, &quot;an auditor is the most valuable being on the planet crap,&quot; hey? It&#039;s who they audit that are celebrities are...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514238">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Yes indeed.<br />
It all makes a mockery of Hubbard&#8217;s, &#8220;an auditor is the most valuable being on the planet crap,&#8221; hey? It&#8217;s who they audit that are celebrities are&#8230;</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 01:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514209&quot;&gt;Yawn&lt;/a&gt;.

The Scn celebs are also mentally isolated, cocooned as it were from the real world, continually love bombed and otherwise very well treated by Scientology staff.   They are kept away from &quot;entheta&quot; or anything that might &quot;enturbulate&quot; them. Only &quot;theta&quot; flows their way from the Scientology staff. The &quot;wog&quot; world is where the &quot;entheta&quot; is.  From Scientology there emanates only &quot;theta&quot;.   Celebs are  continually praised, nurtured, encouraged and listened to.  Thus, they become convinced that they are very important as BEINGS and not only as celebrities in the &quot;wog world&quot;.  They are &quot;Big Beings&quot;.  They BELIEVE this.  And you&#039;d better believe that if they don&#039;t believe this, they get love-bombed, nurtured, listened to and helped until they DO believe it. For celebs, their Scientology experience can be summed up as a never ending,  dependable, consistent flow of very positive attention and the utter emotional security of being loved for their &quot;real&quot; selves (as revealed in auditing).  In brief, one would think that Scientology celebs, with their money and fame and talent and very public personas would be or should be the most savvy Scientologists about the real world outside of the cult but in fact celebs are the most sheltered, the most clueless group of all Scientologists, and that they are this way is no accident.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514209">Yawn</a>.</p>
<p>The Scn celebs are also mentally isolated, cocooned as it were from the real world, continually love bombed and otherwise very well treated by Scientology staff.   They are kept away from &#8220;entheta&#8221; or anything that might &#8220;enturbulate&#8221; them. Only &#8220;theta&#8221; flows their way from the Scientology staff. The &#8220;wog&#8221; world is where the &#8220;entheta&#8221; is.  From Scientology there emanates only &#8220;theta&#8221;.   Celebs are  continually praised, nurtured, encouraged and listened to.  Thus, they become convinced that they are very important as BEINGS and not only as celebrities in the &#8220;wog world&#8221;.  They are &#8220;Big Beings&#8221;.  They BELIEVE this.  And you&#8217;d better believe that if they don&#8217;t believe this, they get love-bombed, nurtured, listened to and helped until they DO believe it. For celebs, their Scientology experience can be summed up as a never ending,  dependable, consistent flow of very positive attention and the utter emotional security of being loved for their &#8220;real&#8221; selves (as revealed in auditing).  In brief, one would think that Scientology celebs, with their money and fame and talent and very public personas would be or should be the most savvy Scientologists about the real world outside of the cult but in fact celebs are the most sheltered, the most clueless group of all Scientologists, and that they are this way is no accident.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514235</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 01:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514227&quot;&gt;Todd Cray&lt;/a&gt;.

@Todd Cray,

&quot;By his &#039;logic&#039;, claiming a religious (or &quot;religious&quot;) affiliation should act as a get-out-of-jail-free card.&quot;

In fact, claiming religious affiliation has been doing just that for thousands of years. Scientology is just one of the new kids on this very old and long block.

 Religion has been the go-to reason for the perpetration of all kinds of wrongs and harms on our fellow humans inclusive of the most monstrous and merciless of cruel behaviors. 

 Scientology with its Fair Game and cruel Disconnection policies in the name of &quot;salvaging Mankind&quot; is just a recent addition to a very long list rife with examples of man&#039;s inhumanity to man all conveniently approved of by God, or Jesus Christ, or Mohammed, etc.   Down thru the ages there has been no lack of noble, lofty, spiritual reasons for hurting people, robbing people,  killing them, punishing them,  ruining them.  

At least Attila the Hun, as bloody and cruel as he and his men were back in the day, did not pretend that their invasions and barbarous acts had anything to do with spirituality!

Scientology knows they have a get out of jail free card because they&#039;re a religion.  Disgusting, but nothing new here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514227">Todd Cray</a>.</p>
<p>@Todd Cray,</p>
<p>&#8220;By his &#8216;logic&#8217;, claiming a religious (or &#8220;religious&#8221;) affiliation should act as a get-out-of-jail-free card.&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, claiming religious affiliation has been doing just that for thousands of years. Scientology is just one of the new kids on this very old and long block.</p>
<p> Religion has been the go-to reason for the perpetration of all kinds of wrongs and harms on our fellow humans inclusive of the most monstrous and merciless of cruel behaviors. </p>
<p> Scientology with its Fair Game and cruel Disconnection policies in the name of &#8220;salvaging Mankind&#8221; is just a recent addition to a very long list rife with examples of man&#8217;s inhumanity to man all conveniently approved of by God, or Jesus Christ, or Mohammed, etc.   Down thru the ages there has been no lack of noble, lofty, spiritual reasons for hurting people, robbing people,  killing them, punishing them,  ruining them.  </p>
<p>At least Attila the Hun, as bloody and cruel as he and his men were back in the day, did not pretend that their invasions and barbarous acts had anything to do with spirituality!</p>
<p>Scientology knows they have a get out of jail free card because they&#8217;re a religion.  Disgusting, but nothing new here.</p>
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		By: Todd Cray		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[True, if a notorious  tabloid were to write a possibly defamatory article about a friend one may indeed skip the article. However, this is about a great number of sources, including many highly reputable ones, writing about the abuses of a &quot;religion.&quot;

Given Pena&#039;s cultural background it&#039;s highly likely that he once was a Catholic or at least would have a number of Catholics among friends and family. (And no, I am not comparing the Catholic religion to the scientology &quot;religion&quot;). Does he want us to believe that he dismissed all the sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic church wholesale when they broke? And made it a point to studiously avoid all reporting on them? Does he want us to believe that he discredited all the victims because he had some Catholic friends who may be offended by such horrible accusations? Was this all nothing but tabloid fodder?

By his &quot;logic&quot;, claiming a religious (or &quot;religious&quot;) affiliation should act as a get-out-of-jail card. Perhaps, former scientologist Charles Manson should have been unmolested by the legal system? Maybe, they should let his buddy Masterson go already?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, if a notorious  tabloid were to write a possibly defamatory article about a friend one may indeed skip the article. However, this is about a great number of sources, including many highly reputable ones, writing about the abuses of a &#8220;religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Given Pena&#8217;s cultural background it&#8217;s highly likely that he once was a Catholic or at least would have a number of Catholics among friends and family. (And no, I am not comparing the Catholic religion to the scientology &#8220;religion&#8221;). Does he want us to believe that he dismissed all the sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic church wholesale when they broke? And made it a point to studiously avoid all reporting on them? Does he want us to believe that he discredited all the victims because he had some Catholic friends who may be offended by such horrible accusations? Was this all nothing but tabloid fodder?</p>
<p>By his &#8220;logic&#8221;, claiming a religious (or &#8220;religious&#8221;) affiliation should act as a get-out-of-jail card. Perhaps, former scientologist Charles Manson should have been unmolested by the legal system? Maybe, they should let his buddy Masterson go already?</p>
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		By: Bluhunk Pudlunk		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514199&quot;&gt;Sci Ex&lt;/a&gt;.

She stuck her fingers in her ears and ran away?

Well, that may not be as bad as it sounds. I can think of many other places that she could have stuck her fingers and I&#039;m sure you would find some of them far more unpleasant than her ears.

All in all, when you say, &quot;Scientologist wife at the time&quot;, I hope you mean that she is no longer in the cult or no longer your wife.

I&#039;m quite certain you will be much happier if you are no longer married to someone in that terrible cult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientologists-deal-with-entheta/#comment-514199">Sci Ex</a>.</p>
<p>She stuck her fingers in her ears and ran away?</p>
<p>Well, that may not be as bad as it sounds. I can think of many other places that she could have stuck her fingers and I&#8217;m sure you would find some of them far more unpleasant than her ears.</p>
<p>All in all, when you say, &#8220;Scientologist wife at the time&#8221;, I hope you mean that she is no longer in the cult or no longer your wife.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite certain you will be much happier if you are no longer married to someone in that terrible cult.</p>
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		By: Dotey OT		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2023 21:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The scientologist is the last person to know the truth of scientology. 

It&#039;s such a weird thing that people argue about what works and doesn&#039;t for years. Then they gain a different understanding and change their minds again. 

It&#039;s like they are past the event horizon and there is nothing that can be done for them. They keep saying the same things.

Whenever ellerech says &quot;this makes you freer&quot; he just trapped them a little more.

Whenever Davey says &quot;here is what lrh really said&quot; they are that much more fucked.

But they wore masks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scientologist is the last person to know the truth of scientology. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s such a weird thing that people argue about what works and doesn&#8217;t for years. Then they gain a different understanding and change their minds again. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like they are past the event horizon and there is nothing that can be done for them. They keep saying the same things.</p>
<p>Whenever ellerech says &#8220;this makes you freer&#8221; he just trapped them a little more.</p>
<p>Whenever Davey says &#8220;here is what lrh really said&#8221; they are that much more fucked.</p>
<p>But they wore masks.</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2023 21:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Criticism is the necessary precursor to correction.]]></description>
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