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		By: The Great Wisdom of Ron		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-397315</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2021 12:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] I wrote about a similar Hubbard quote concerning the Victorian Inquiry a month ago: Hubbard Doing Hubbard. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I wrote about a similar Hubbard quote concerning the Victorian Inquiry a month ago: Hubbard Doing Hubbard. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Sir Duke		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-393173</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 20:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-393161&quot;&gt;Hana Whitfield&lt;/a&gt;.

Very happy to hear this! I can imagine the daunting task of data gathering, recollection, organization of such a wide experience. You have all my support from France and will count among your future readers as soon as the book is out!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-393161">Hana Whitfield</a>.</p>
<p>Very happy to hear this! I can imagine the daunting task of data gathering, recollection, organization of such a wide experience. You have all my support from France and will count among your future readers as soon as the book is out!</p>
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		By: Hana Whitfield		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-393161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hana Whitfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 19:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-393078&quot;&gt;Sir Duke&lt;/a&gt;.

I have a book in progress and hope I can complete it by year&#039;s end. It&#039;s been a daunting ride so far, as covers my husband&#039;s and my exit counseling (or thought reform) work, how we developed it, the years of harassment, abuse and Fair Game Scientology threw at us, and my experiences with Hubbard to show who he really was. thanks much for your interest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-393078">Sir Duke</a>.</p>
<p>I have a book in progress and hope I can complete it by year&#8217;s end. It&#8217;s been a daunting ride so far, as covers my husband&#8217;s and my exit counseling (or thought reform) work, how we developed it, the years of harassment, abuse and Fair Game Scientology threw at us, and my experiences with Hubbard to show who he really was. thanks much for your interest.</p>
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		By: Sir Duke		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-393079</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sir Duke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 11:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-391984&quot;&gt;Zee Moo&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting comment indeed! It seems like over the years, Scientology has grown more scared of communicating with the wog world, which makes sense since putting any Scientologist forward will result in possible questioning did Scientology. Even celebrities now all avoid mentioning Scientology. So much for the “unprecedented expansion” claims!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-391984">Zee Moo</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting comment indeed! It seems like over the years, Scientology has grown more scared of communicating with the wog world, which makes sense since putting any Scientologist forward will result in possible questioning did Scientology. Even celebrities now all avoid mentioning Scientology. So much for the “unprecedented expansion” claims!</p>
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		By: Sir Duke		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-393078</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sir Duke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 10:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392109&quot;&gt;Hana Whitfield&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Hana for your insight! Have you ever planned on writing a book about your experience? You certainly have had a long first hand experience of interacting with « the master »]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392109">Hana Whitfield</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Hana for your insight! Have you ever planned on writing a book about your experience? You certainly have had a long first hand experience of interacting with « the master »</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392442</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Balletlady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2021 16:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392307&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Jere, it&#039;s all so true as well. We don&#039;t know what we&#039;ve lost until it&#039;s gone permanently. 
 
I am 100% ALL for &quot;disconnecting&quot; TOXIC PEOPLE from my life, including close family members. As hurtful &#038; painful as it is or was, it had to be done. I can&#039;t keep picking up the pieces &#038; trying to patch &#038; repair someone else&#039;s self made errors. Sometime you just  CANNOT help someone who refuses to be helped.

My best wishes to everyone! Your posts fill my day &#038; often ease questions &#038; doubts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392307">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Jere, it&#8217;s all so true as well. We don&#8217;t know what we&#8217;ve lost until it&#8217;s gone permanently. </p>
<p>I am 100% ALL for &#8220;disconnecting&#8221; TOXIC PEOPLE from my life, including close family members. As hurtful &amp; painful as it is or was, it had to be done. I can&#8217;t keep picking up the pieces &amp; trying to patch &amp; repair someone else&#8217;s self made errors. Sometime you just  CANNOT help someone who refuses to be helped.</p>
<p>My best wishes to everyone! Your posts fill my day &amp; often ease questions &amp; doubts.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392420</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2021 11:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392313&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&#039;s an article called &quot;Clear&quot; written by David Mayo in 1989 while he was still an independent scn. He explains that many scns who had done all the steps up to the OT levels were upset that people could attest to dn clear or natural and jump onto the OT levels.

www.ivymag.org/iv-01-02.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392313">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an article called &#8220;Clear&#8221; written by David Mayo in 1989 while he was still an independent scn. He explains that many scns who had done all the steps up to the OT levels were upset that people could attest to dn clear or natural and jump onto the OT levels.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ivymag.org/iv-01-02.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ivymag.org/iv-01-02.html</a></p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392415</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2021 11:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392363&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

The causes of depression remain under scientific investigation. Maybe it&#039;s just just chemicals in the brain and science produces medications to counter the effects. Possibly in some cases it&#039;s karma coming back into view for reexamination which is speculation on my part. Big subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392363">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>The causes of depression remain under scientific investigation. Maybe it&#8217;s just just chemicals in the brain and science produces medications to counter the effects. Possibly in some cases it&#8217;s karma coming back into view for reexamination which is speculation on my part. Big subject.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392364</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2021 20:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392313&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Jere - As you probably know regarding clear, there were changes on the lower grade chart in that time period after Elron announced dianetic clear and natural clear. You attested a year earlier than me and at that time there were disagreements about whether dn clear and natural clear was the same thing as &quot;real&quot; clear which was solo auditing the clearing course. Maybe that&#039;s why they put you back on the grades instead of in the non interference zone. If someone had reviewed your &quot;case&quot; a year later they might have put you on the OT !evels. Maybe like myself you could consider that didn&#039;t happen as lucky - Lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392313">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Jere &#8211; As you probably know regarding clear, there were changes on the lower grade chart in that time period after Elron announced dianetic clear and natural clear. You attested a year earlier than me and at that time there were disagreements about whether dn clear and natural clear was the same thing as &#8220;real&#8221; clear which was solo auditing the clearing course. Maybe that&#8217;s why they put you back on the grades instead of in the non interference zone. If someone had reviewed your &#8220;case&#8221; a year later they might have put you on the OT !evels. Maybe like myself you could consider that didn&#8217;t happen as lucky &#8211; Lol</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2021 20:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392313&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Jere - I went through a brief mild depression when I was about sixteen years old. Theoretically there was no reason since I was a good student, good athlete, reasonably attractive and had a good home life. Life seemed empty and without any real meaning and I went through the motions of life without any real interest in anything. It only lasted about two months and faded away and I went back to again having an interest in life. That brief experience gave me some understanding and sympathy for people who go through a deep depression and sometimes can barely get out of bed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/hubbard-doing-hubbard/#comment-392313">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Jere &#8211; I went through a brief mild depression when I was about sixteen years old. Theoretically there was no reason since I was a good student, good athlete, reasonably attractive and had a good home life. Life seemed empty and without any real meaning and I went through the motions of life without any real interest in anything. It only lasted about two months and faded away and I went back to again having an interest in life. That brief experience gave me some understanding and sympathy for people who go through a deep depression and sometimes can barely get out of bed.</p>
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