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		By: Valhalkarie		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-258108</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 04:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257757&quot;&gt;lynda castell-blanch&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s been so long the new blood has no idea who she is and in no time she&#039;ll die in an apartment and none will care,like L Ron&#039;s Beloved caretaker did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257757">lynda castell-blanch</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been so long the new blood has no idea who she is and in no time she&#8217;ll die in an apartment and none will care,like L Ron&#8217;s Beloved caretaker did.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257954</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 16:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257821&quot;&gt;jere lull (38years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

jere, Scientology always seems pathologically obsessed with &quot;show me the money&quot; - NOW!  We hear stories of people spending hours and hours in registrar&#039;s offices until bank transfers are made, or new credit is approved and tapped - they insist on cash on the barrelhead.  The FSM will want their commission, which they don&#039;t get until money is  actually paid, and whoever in an org has the &quot;stat&quot; for the income will want the same, or at least that&#039;s how it used to work.  

But given that Scientology also engages in ends-justifies-the-means fudging of any supposed principle when it suits them, staff under that insane pressure will resort to breaking the rules, &quot;whales&quot; get treated according to different rules (including, now, being able to put their FSMs on a budget), and that they seem to be at a point of desperation, I&#039;m sure there&#039;s some fudging that goes on.  If Scientology actually started frequently allowing - and counting - something more like the sort of pledging that normal churches and organizations engage in, that would actually be a major sign of slippage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257821">jere lull (38years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>jere, Scientology always seems pathologically obsessed with &#8220;show me the money&#8221; &#8211; NOW!  We hear stories of people spending hours and hours in registrar&#8217;s offices until bank transfers are made, or new credit is approved and tapped &#8211; they insist on cash on the barrelhead.  The FSM will want their commission, which they don&#8217;t get until money is  actually paid, and whoever in an org has the &#8220;stat&#8221; for the income will want the same, or at least that&#8217;s how it used to work.  </p>
<p>But given that Scientology also engages in ends-justifies-the-means fudging of any supposed principle when it suits them, staff under that insane pressure will resort to breaking the rules, &#8220;whales&#8221; get treated according to different rules (including, now, being able to put their FSMs on a budget), and that they seem to be at a point of desperation, I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s some fudging that goes on.  If Scientology actually started frequently allowing &#8211; and counting &#8211; something more like the sort of pledging that normal churches and organizations engage in, that would actually be a major sign of slippage.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 02:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257602&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

In addition to the old &quot;postulate check&quot; scam, they could also say they WILL donate $2,000,000,and have that entered as their ironclad pledge.  If they don&#039;t actually donate that much, they merely have to show they&#039;re working on it; at $1 a week and they&#039;re still technically in compliance.  D&#039;ya think the MAA will fall for that? The Dir  I&#038;R?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257602">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>In addition to the old &#8220;postulate check&#8221; scam, they could also say they WILL donate $2,000,000,and have that entered as their ironclad pledge.  If they don&#8217;t actually donate that much, they merely have to show they&#8217;re working on it; at $1 a week and they&#8217;re still technically in compliance.  D&#8217;ya think the MAA will fall for that? The Dir  I&amp;R?</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257817</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 01:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257788&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

Kat:&quot;Miscavige probably believes he is untouchable and knows better than mere wog lawyers&quot;

BINGO!  The guy&#039;s ego won&#039;t let him listen to experienced, sage advice UNLESS it agrees with his preconceptions/prejudices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257788">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>Kat:&#8221;Miscavige probably believes he is untouchable and knows better than mere wog lawyers&#8221;</p>
<p>BINGO!  The guy&#8217;s ego won&#8217;t let him listen to experienced, sage advice UNLESS it agrees with his preconceptions/prejudices.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257814</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 01:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257762&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Peacemaker:&quot;I just thought to check, and the AJC’s Sunday circulation is a bit shy of half a million, according to the best figures I could readily find, from a couple of years ago. So if the IAS actually paid to have “Truth about Drugs” booklets put in all of them, then they might really have more or less achieved their claim;&quot;

You FORGOT that the BOOKLETS are SO well-written and engrossing that every copy will be passed from hand-to-hand until it&#039;s been read and understood by 4,000 people, not including the BTs who peek in and get keyed-out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257762">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Peacemaker:&#8221;I just thought to check, and the AJC’s Sunday circulation is a bit shy of half a million, according to the best figures I could readily find, from a couple of years ago. So if the IAS actually paid to have “Truth about Drugs” booklets put in all of them, then they might really have more or less achieved their claim;&#8221;</p>
<p>You FORGOT that the BOOKLETS are SO well-written and engrossing that every copy will be passed from hand-to-hand until it&#8217;s been read and understood by 4,000 people, not including the BTs who peek in and get keyed-out.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257813</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 01:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257393&quot;&gt;Artdawg&lt;/a&gt;.

Artdawg said&quot;But Scientology is supposed to be the fastest growing religion ever! PERIOD! Scientology had a great, great Super Bowl ad campaign! It’s YUGE!!!&quot;


If you BELIEVE that, they have this wonderful BRIDGE to sell you for only half  million dollars or so. The dividends you recieve on its purchase will be unlike anything you could possibly imagine…. [removing tongue from its firmly in-cheek position]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257393">Artdawg</a>.</p>
<p>Artdawg said&#8221;But Scientology is supposed to be the fastest growing religion ever! PERIOD! Scientology had a great, great Super Bowl ad campaign! It’s YUGE!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>If you BELIEVE that, they have this wonderful BRIDGE to sell you for only half  million dollars or so. The dividends you recieve on its purchase will be unlike anything you could possibly imagine…. [removing tongue from its firmly in-cheek position]</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257811</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 01:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257757&quot;&gt;lynda castell-blanch&lt;/a&gt;.

Lynda, the reason they haven;&#039;t taken a positive action WRT &quot;where&#039;s Shelly? is that they are forbidden to address the issue by Tubby&#039;s immutable policy; Attack, attack, attack. Make them (us) sue for peace. Never defend, always attack –in their(our) territory, not &quot;ours&quot;(scientology&#039;s).    They are FORBIDDEN to think or act differently and as the robots they have been made, they obey unquestioningly. &#039;Theirs is not to question why&#039;, don&#039;cha know?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257757">lynda castell-blanch</a>.</p>
<p>Lynda, the reason they haven;&#8217;t taken a positive action WRT &#8220;where&#8217;s Shelly? is that they are forbidden to address the issue by Tubby&#8217;s immutable policy; Attack, attack, attack. Make them (us) sue for peace. Never defend, always attack –in their(our) territory, not &#8220;ours&#8221;(scientology&#8217;s).    They are FORBIDDEN to think or act differently and as the robots they have been made, they obey unquestioningly. &#8216;Theirs is not to question why&#8217;, don&#8217;cha know?</p>
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		By: Kat LaRue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 23:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257467&quot;&gt;Belynda&lt;/a&gt;.

Miscavige probably believes he is untouchable and knows better than mere wog lawyers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257467">Belynda</a>.</p>
<p>Miscavige probably believes he is untouchable and knows better than mere wog lawyers</p>
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		By: Kat LaRue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 23:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257389&quot;&gt;Michelle McCarty&lt;/a&gt;.

I posted an earlier link to the California charity fraud oversight committee:

https://www.oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/charities/charitable/ct9.pdf

They do not take complaints via email or phone, so you need to print it out and send it along with documentation.  This may get them to open a case if enough of us send in documents.  I was never in, and have never given money, but several of you may have older documentation outlining amounts given to IAS as well as the internet funding sites which illustrate the money isn’t going where they claim.  It’s worth a shot.  There is an agency in Florida as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257389">Michelle McCarty</a>.</p>
<p>I posted an earlier link to the California charity fraud oversight committee:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/charities/charitable/ct9.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/charities/charitable/ct9.pdf</a></p>
<p>They do not take complaints via email or phone, so you need to print it out and send it along with documentation.  This may get them to open a case if enough of us send in documents.  I was never in, and have never given money, but several of you may have older documentation outlining amounts given to IAS as well as the internet funding sites which illustrate the money isn’t going where they claim.  It’s worth a shot.  There is an agency in Florida as well.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 22:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257700&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;...OM instead of OT.  Operating Muslim VIII&quot;  

Richard, I&#039;m dying :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-lies-exposed-again/#comment-257700">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;OM instead of OT.  Operating Muslim VIII&#8221;  </p>
<p>Richard, I&#8217;m dying 🙂</p>
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