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		By: Paul Cocovinis		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259631</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 20:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259568&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

My point was rather to highlight Pomerantz&#039;s motives than his threadbare imdb profile, but yes, if that&#039;s a similar pattern on other member&#039;s profiles it perhaps does beg the question why more haven&#039;t followed suit, given the potential financial rewards. Maybe it&#039;s simply down to personal moral compasses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259568">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>My point was rather to highlight Pomerantz&#8217;s motives than his threadbare imdb profile, but yes, if that&#8217;s a similar pattern on other member&#8217;s profiles it perhaps does beg the question why more haven&#8217;t followed suit, given the potential financial rewards. Maybe it&#8217;s simply down to personal moral compasses.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259624</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 19:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259280&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Skyler:

DON&#039;t hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259280">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Skyler:</p>
<p>DON&#8217;t hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259622</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 19:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259492&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyx75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Chuck:&quot;Too bad the whole rest of the movement never got that message, that Hubbard had doubts, and had admitted failure.&quot;

Of course, WE got the message --  and got OUT. That&#039;s  a START, and likely to help infect those still in IF they ever get the balls to look their cult up in the real world.  Every person moved from &quot;in&quot; to &quot;out&quot; weakens  DM&#039;s position and hastens scientology&#039;s being relegated to the junk pile of failed cults.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259492">chuckbeattyx75to03</a>.</p>
<p>Chuck:&#8221;Too bad the whole rest of the movement never got that message, that Hubbard had doubts, and had admitted failure.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, WE got the message &#8212;  and got OUT. That&#8217;s  a START, and likely to help infect those still in IF they ever get the balls to look their cult up in the real world.  Every person moved from &#8220;in&#8221; to &#8220;out&#8221; weakens  DM&#8217;s position and hastens scientology&#8217;s being relegated to the junk pile of failed cults.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 13:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259538&quot;&gt;Paul Cocovinis&lt;/a&gt;.

Most actor members&#039; IMDB profiles aren&#039;t  very impressive, plus it seems they typically show a downward trend with greater involvement in Scientology, which I suspect both saps the time they need to be developing their craft such as doing stage work (like TC&#039;s Oscar-winning ex Nicole), and ends up hampering their emotional range after too much auditing and processing.  In particular, those who were once successful at all, tend to stop receiving major recognition of their acting skills such as Oscars and Emmys, no longer even being nominated.

And the other actors we see promoting themselves on flyers, which presumably are covert recruiting efforts by Scientology, don&#039;t show up as being any more successful at getting work or more importantly actually furthering their careers, than Pomerantz.  

I do suspect that a couple of members whose names we might recognize, but who are perhaps now not getting much work and are hard up for money, may be FSMing and just not showing up here, either because they are promoting things other than the IAS, or because they&#039;re using their celebrity privilege to ask not to be listed and revealed as money-grubbers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259538">Paul Cocovinis</a>.</p>
<p>Most actor members&#8217; IMDB profiles aren&#8217;t  very impressive, plus it seems they typically show a downward trend with greater involvement in Scientology, which I suspect both saps the time they need to be developing their craft such as doing stage work (like TC&#8217;s Oscar-winning ex Nicole), and ends up hampering their emotional range after too much auditing and processing.  In particular, those who were once successful at all, tend to stop receiving major recognition of their acting skills such as Oscars and Emmys, no longer even being nominated.</p>
<p>And the other actors we see promoting themselves on flyers, which presumably are covert recruiting efforts by Scientology, don&#8217;t show up as being any more successful at getting work or more importantly actually furthering their careers, than Pomerantz.  </p>
<p>I do suspect that a couple of members whose names we might recognize, but who are perhaps now not getting much work and are hard up for money, may be FSMing and just not showing up here, either because they are promoting things other than the IAS, or because they&#8217;re using their celebrity privilege to ask not to be listed and revealed as money-grubbers.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 12:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259211&quot;&gt;Betrayed by Scientology&lt;/a&gt;.

....still healing here too... 

as time passes some things get easier, but also... it can get darker really quickly.  

These days, sometimes the weight of the scope of loss and betrayal gives me great pause.

WHAT did I do with 40 years?

A fat old guy with bad teeth.... I spent 4 decades of my life pouring over and embracing his every word?  Every aspect of all of life was evaluated by what HE said?  All decisions, all judgments of self and others, all of my concepts for what is existence, who I am, my value, ...ALL predicated on the words of one person?  Self proclaimed discoverer of all truth of all existence?

I FELL FOR THAT???????????????????????????????????

FOR DECADES??????????????

The big beautiful world about me  - I dismissed as a copy of a copy of a copy.  An aberration and dramatization that was a trap, a punishment, a mirage, ... KSW and Safeguarding Technology taught me to ignore everything in the world except for doing Scn and helping others do it.  

I might as well have donned an orange robe, shaved my head, and took up a position on a street corner for the bulk of my life.  

...
so...yeah, sometimes the weight of what it cost, what I gave up, all that I missed...........

bit much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259211">Betrayed by Scientology</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230;.still healing here too&#8230; </p>
<p>as time passes some things get easier, but also&#8230; it can get darker really quickly.  </p>
<p>These days, sometimes the weight of the scope of loss and betrayal gives me great pause.</p>
<p>WHAT did I do with 40 years?</p>
<p>A fat old guy with bad teeth&#8230;. I spent 4 decades of my life pouring over and embracing his every word?  Every aspect of all of life was evaluated by what HE said?  All decisions, all judgments of self and others, all of my concepts for what is existence, who I am, my value, &#8230;ALL predicated on the words of one person?  Self proclaimed discoverer of all truth of all existence?</p>
<p>I FELL FOR THAT???????????????????????????????????</p>
<p>FOR DECADES??????????????</p>
<p>The big beautiful world about me  &#8211; I dismissed as a copy of a copy of a copy.  An aberration and dramatization that was a trap, a punishment, a mirage, &#8230; KSW and Safeguarding Technology taught me to ignore everything in the world except for doing Scn and helping others do it.  </p>
<p>I might as well have donned an orange robe, shaved my head, and took up a position on a street corner for the bulk of my life.  </p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
so&#8230;yeah, sometimes the weight of what it cost, what I gave up, all that I missed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>bit much.</p>
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		By: Paul Cocovinis		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259538</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 09:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A brief peruse of Pomerantz&#039;s imdb tells us what a fraud he is. 
He still likes to promote himself as a big shot actor who&#039;s rubbed shoulders with the likes of &#039;Bob&#039; Duvall (but doesn&#039;t drop the most obvious name of course because, I&#039;m guessing, there&#039;d be repercussions) and yet his imdb is remarkably devoid of much acting work over the last 20 odd years.   
To compensate this it&#039;s been nebulously padded out with his work at Gold. 
It&#039;s always struck me as odd that in all this time he&#039;s been unable to &#039;pull in&#039; a major role in anything in decades. 
This in spite of all the Bridge progress he&#039;s made and being &#039;buddies&#039; with arguably one of the biggest movie stars (and producer) on the planet (who you&#039;d have thought would have thrown him a bone by now if he actually liked him or thought him good enough).
Aside from him and Michael Roberts, why are there are no other &#039;big&#039; names using their considerable celebrity to champion the IAS such as Juliette Lewis, Michael Pena, Giovani Ribisi or Jenna Elfman for example?  Perhaps because they don&#039;t need to?
Let&#039;s play devil&#039;s advocate and imagine Pomerantz got the big breakthrough role he&#039;s no doubt been dreaming of since forever and all of a sudden people outside of scientology actually start to recognize him - is he going to continue schlepping around brow-beating others for his commission whilst feigning some noble mission?  I seriously doubt it. They should have a new status for the likes of him - Patron Hypocriticus. Though I suspect he&#039;d prefer the Maserati.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brief peruse of Pomerantz&#8217;s imdb tells us what a fraud he is.<br />
He still likes to promote himself as a big shot actor who&#8217;s rubbed shoulders with the likes of &#8216;Bob&#8217; Duvall (but doesn&#8217;t drop the most obvious name of course because, I&#8217;m guessing, there&#8217;d be repercussions) and yet his imdb is remarkably devoid of much acting work over the last 20 odd years.<br />
To compensate this it&#8217;s been nebulously padded out with his work at Gold.<br />
It&#8217;s always struck me as odd that in all this time he&#8217;s been unable to &#8216;pull in&#8217; a major role in anything in decades.<br />
This in spite of all the Bridge progress he&#8217;s made and being &#8216;buddies&#8217; with arguably one of the biggest movie stars (and producer) on the planet (who you&#8217;d have thought would have thrown him a bone by now if he actually liked him or thought him good enough).<br />
Aside from him and Michael Roberts, why are there are no other &#8216;big&#8217; names using their considerable celebrity to champion the IAS such as Juliette Lewis, Michael Pena, Giovani Ribisi or Jenna Elfman for example?  Perhaps because they don&#8217;t need to?<br />
Let&#8217;s play devil&#8217;s advocate and imagine Pomerantz got the big breakthrough role he&#8217;s no doubt been dreaming of since forever and all of a sudden people outside of scientology actually start to recognize him &#8211; is he going to continue schlepping around brow-beating others for his commission whilst feigning some noble mission?  I seriously doubt it. They should have a new status for the likes of him &#8211; Patron Hypocriticus. Though I suspect he&#8217;d prefer the Maserati.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyx75to03		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259492</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 02:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The money grubber fundraisers  will never be able to see the error of their ways.    

Hubbard at least for a brief moment at the end of his life admitted failure.

Too bad the whole rest of the movement never got that message, that Hubbard had doubts, and had admitted failure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money grubber fundraisers  will never be able to see the error of their ways.    </p>
<p>Hubbard at least for a brief moment at the end of his life admitted failure.</p>
<p>Too bad the whole rest of the movement never got that message, that Hubbard had doubts, and had admitted failure.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2019 21:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259342&quot;&gt;Kati Maines&lt;/a&gt;.

Kati, its Aqua; thanks for what you shared,  and I responded to  but it got posted way further up by mistake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259342">Kati Maines</a>.</p>
<p>Kati, its Aqua; thanks for what you shared,  and I responded to  but it got posted way further up by mistake.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2019 19:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, I loathe President Trump and though I vote Democratic now I come from a long and i do mean LONG line of stalwart traditional Republicans and I understand and respect the principles of personal responsibility they&#039;ve always officially espoused. 

That said,  I&#039;ll make a deal with you :)  PROVE that Trump has spoken out about the Church of Scientology&#039;s forced abortions,  in his State of The Union Address  or ANYWHERE, and I&#039;ll vote for him in 2020, and THAT&#039;S a promise!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, I loathe President Trump and though I vote Democratic now I come from a long and i do mean LONG line of stalwart traditional Republicans and I understand and respect the principles of personal responsibility they&#8217;ve always officially espoused. </p>
<p>That said,  I&#8217;ll make a deal with you 🙂  PROVE that Trump has spoken out about the Church of Scientology&#8217;s forced abortions,  in his State of The Union Address  or ANYWHERE, and I&#8217;ll vote for him in 2020, and THAT&#8217;S a promise!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2019 18:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259331&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;...some weird Scientology portal that will suck me into the seventh circle of hell...&quot;

LOL!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ias-money-grubbers/#comment-259331">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;some weird Scientology portal that will suck me into the seventh circle of hell&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL!!!</p>
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