Comments on: IAS Narconon Claims — Fact Check

By: addictionrecoveryguide.org – Local Plumbing Hero

addictionrecoveryguide.org – Local Plumbing Hero — Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:18:13 +0000

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By: Christina Coad

Christina Coad — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 21:42:20 +0000

This entry is years old, but now that the opiate crisis has the number one cause of death for young adults being drug overdose this needs to be brought to light. As a recovering addict myself I get tons of targeted ads for these Narconon facilities, likley because my choice of recovery is methadone (MMT). After failed rehab after failed rehab and my family searching for places to save me, Narconon was suggested. Somehow and I don’t remeber how, probably searching the internet I found out that they did not medically deotx people and were somehow associated with the CoS so I said “Hell No!!!” to it as I have always been interested in cults and had read as much as I could 10 years ago on the CoS and other cults.
Narconon’s fake treatment needs to be put in the spotlight and NOW

By: IBG

IBG — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:40:41 +0000

While I have to admit that the purpose of this post was somewhat lost on me I would love to help clear up some confusion on your side, Natasha.
“[…] Drugs and Children: What to do. These booklets have been funded by IAS grants and have been distributed as a public service by Churches of Scientology and individual members of the IAS throughout Europe.”
You say your google search didn’t turn out anything of value.
I always considered it a stable datum that ‘all of Europe’ does not speak the same language (e.g. English).
Therfore even the most daring among us might not be able to find Narconon brochures when searching their English titles.
Here are two larger European countries and their warning against booklets distributed by Scientologists. (Anything associated with CoS gets called Scientology at this side of the ocean. It’s probably not very acurate but makes everyone run the other way :D)

http://www.ccmm.asso.fr/spip.php?article1310

http://www.bz-berlin.de/aktuell/berlin/scientology-koedert-mit-flyer-an-schulen-article1165375.html

I hope this helps with your further researches.

By: Formost

Formost — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:39:59 +0000

In reply to Just ThisGuy.

The purpose of the rundowns are to assist someone to get to Clear, not to handle the body.

In part correct, more on that in a confidential reference I won't post: The OT Drug Rundown (HCOB 29 Jan 80)

By: Valkov

Valkov — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:42:32 +0000

In reply to Just ThisGuy. JTG, I disagree again. According toLRH, the Purif is a "biophysical handling". It is intended to handle the body. Nor is an e-meter needed to get the EPs of TRs or CCHs.

By: Just ThisGuy

Just ThisGuy — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:28:05 +0000

In reply to Just ThisGuy.

PreferToBeAnon2,

Your point is valid and well taken; this thread is about Narconon. My statement was more addressed to the Purif itself as a step towards going Clear.

Narconon is basically running a squirrel version of the lower parts of the Bridge. With no e-meters there is NO WAY they are handling steps that come after the Purif properly. Nor are they able to properly handle any case issues that come up during the Purif.

The purpose of the rundowns are to assist someone to get to Clear, not to handle the body. Yet that is how they have positioned it with “studies” and “papers” that are not only bad science but something they themselves know to be unsupported from a scientific viewpoint.

By: 10oriocookies

10oriocookies — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:14:51 +0000

In reply to Alanzo. It was around 2004. I only knew Marie. Her name and some other guy are the ones that did the study on the drug ed. I believe Rena Weinberg was involved as well as Phil Hart. If NN wants to advertise a % of success they better have an INDEPENDENT study done. In the rehab industry its a NO NO to do otherwise. To call themselves counselors they need to actually work at a center that has an accepted modality that has been independently studied and peer-reviewed for around 6000 hours. NO ONE in the NN network meets this criteria as NN is not generally accepted as treatment. This is one of the reasons why they are losing their counseling certs.

By: EnthralledObserver

EnthralledObserver — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 04:23:17 +0000

In reply to Margaret. Narconon, and all it's affiliates, including those doing the studies and providing testimony, ARE Scientology, as Scientology IS Narconon. All the same beast. The sooner this is accepted by everyone, the better off everyone will be.

By: EnthralledObserver

EnthralledObserver — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 04:10:39 +0000

In reply to Valkov. How is Niacinamide different from Niacin?

By: EnthralledObserver

EnthralledObserver — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 04:07:55 +0000

In reply to gato rojo. Where is Hubbard's description of what Niacin supposedly did/does? Let's see if HIS research matches up with what these paid doctors are dribbling...