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		By: Komodo Dragon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2018 22:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235698&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

He would have his little Tommy boy with him, supplying him with never ending adoration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235698">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>He would have his little Tommy boy with him, supplying him with never ending adoration.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (38 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2018 00:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235612&quot;&gt;Dave F.&lt;/a&gt;.

Dave, timeshares  are well-known scams, their sellers known thieves, the reason why I and most of my friends won&#039;t go near the things; Your was a nice story from the soapbox, so no apology needed. I couldn&#039;t have done that, but can run like the wind, breaking tackles from amateurs with ease, so once got away by breaking out through  the door, getting in the car and driving away before they could react. Lately, I simply don&#039;t give them a chance: Scam salesmen spiels are all alike, easy to spot because it sounds too good to be true.  Because it IS too good to be true.  

You&#039;re right, Regges WOULD fit right in with that crowd.

Ex-regges might also do well selling insurance annuities, a subject that for 15 years I maintained software to administer, so is a topic I could get on a soapbox, myself.  Short explanation:  There&#039;s a reason insurance companies  usuallyown big, impressive buildings Insurance is pretty much a license to print money; the rules,  --written by the company-- always benefit the company, not the purchaser.
  In EVERY scenerio I ran testing the software, working with real data , the annuitant or its beneficiaries would have done MUCH better by buying into a bond fund with a reputable administrator and not looked at the stock values ever. Just pick something and sit on it;easy-peasy!



Davey Boy&#039;s a relative piker when it comes to a profitable scam. He&#039;s left himself open to legal suits, including his blatent violations of the IRS agreement,, INS violations, child labor, human trafficking, and the other illegalities he demands be done IMHO. His best  option is to settle in Bulgravia before the &#039;stuff&#039; hits the fan and spread the wealth intelligently.  While there, don&#039;t piss off those in charge; those sorts of countries aren&#039;t hamstrung like the civilized countries he&#039;s used to. Annoy the wrong people and ... BANG ... you&#039;re no longer an annoyance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235612">Dave F.</a>.</p>
<p>Dave, timeshares  are well-known scams, their sellers known thieves, the reason why I and most of my friends won&#8217;t go near the things; Your was a nice story from the soapbox, so no apology needed. I couldn&#8217;t have done that, but can run like the wind, breaking tackles from amateurs with ease, so once got away by breaking out through  the door, getting in the car and driving away before they could react. Lately, I simply don&#8217;t give them a chance: Scam salesmen spiels are all alike, easy to spot because it sounds too good to be true.  Because it IS too good to be true.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, Regges WOULD fit right in with that crowd.</p>
<p>Ex-regges might also do well selling insurance annuities, a subject that for 15 years I maintained software to administer, so is a topic I could get on a soapbox, myself.  Short explanation:  There&#8217;s a reason insurance companies  usuallyown big, impressive buildings Insurance is pretty much a license to print money; the rules,  &#8211;written by the company&#8211; always benefit the company, not the purchaser.<br />
  In EVERY scenerio I ran testing the software, working with real data , the annuitant or its beneficiaries would have done MUCH better by buying into a bond fund with a reputable administrator and not looked at the stock values ever. Just pick something and sit on it;easy-peasy!</p>
<p>Davey Boy&#8217;s a relative piker when it comes to a profitable scam. He&#8217;s left himself open to legal suits, including his blatent violations of the IRS agreement,, INS violations, child labor, human trafficking, and the other illegalities he demands be done IMHO. His best  option is to settle in Bulgravia before the &#8216;stuff&#8217; hits the fan and spread the wealth intelligently.  While there, don&#8217;t piss off those in charge; those sorts of countries aren&#8217;t hamstrung like the civilized countries he&#8217;s used to. Annoy the wrong people and &#8230; BANG &#8230; you&#8217;re no longer an annoyance.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (38 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235939</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 22:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235609&quot;&gt;chuckbeatty77&lt;/a&gt;.

Chuck, I think you might be remembering me. Sadly, I don&#039;t remember you, as I didn&#039;t roll in those circles. I still have the beard. There are only a few folks still alive who have seen my naked chin.  Shaved it off during lunch about &#039;78 and no one noticed, which was depressing. Did NED and declared Clear on co-audit in &#039;78, then thought too much and dove down into depression, quite the roller coaster plunge after the floating TA of Clear.   Discovered that  scn has NO handling for depression (not even at  Flag); guess they thought the RPF would get my necessity level up or something.  Eventually I rebelled just enough in the few months of RPF to get, (I guess) beached in August &#039;80.  No ethics, no Comm ev, no goldenrod, not even notice of a F/L &quot;debt&quot;, just let loose to do what I chose with whatever $ I could get my hands on. Happily, had supportive family &#038; friends, so life improved greatly immediately.


Thanks for wasting the time to consult Googlemaps, as I didn&#039;t think to do that.  Guess they&#039;ve stopped caring what the neighbors thought and made the barracks armed camps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235609">chuckbeatty77</a>.</p>
<p>Chuck, I think you might be remembering me. Sadly, I don&#8217;t remember you, as I didn&#8217;t roll in those circles. I still have the beard. There are only a few folks still alive who have seen my naked chin.  Shaved it off during lunch about &#8217;78 and no one noticed, which was depressing. Did NED and declared Clear on co-audit in &#8217;78, then thought too much and dove down into depression, quite the roller coaster plunge after the floating TA of Clear.   Discovered that  scn has NO handling for depression (not even at  Flag); guess they thought the RPF would get my necessity level up or something.  Eventually I rebelled just enough in the few months of RPF to get, (I guess) beached in August &#8217;80.  No ethics, no Comm ev, no goldenrod, not even notice of a F/L &#8220;debt&#8221;, just let loose to do what I chose with whatever $ I could get my hands on. Happily, had supportive family &amp; friends, so life improved greatly immediately.</p>
<p>Thanks for wasting the time to consult Googlemaps, as I didn&#8217;t think to do that.  Guess they&#8217;ve stopped caring what the neighbors thought and made the barracks armed camps.</p>
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		By: Tam Glynnis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 22:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235602&quot;&gt;petlover1948&lt;/a&gt;.

It is true that democrats don&#039;t vote and then complain bitterly about injustice. As public, we signed legal papers after taking the OCA (and taking the first course) that prevent any authorities from checking in. ICE can&#039;t act when we have already signed away our options as citizens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235602">petlover1948</a>.</p>
<p>It is true that democrats don&#8217;t vote and then complain bitterly about injustice. As public, we signed legal papers after taking the OCA (and taking the first course) that prevent any authorities from checking in. ICE can&#8217;t act when we have already signed away our options as citizens.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235726&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, Aqua...that&#039;s just sad - course, it&#039;s better in the long run for her, but at the time it would have been so hard on her.  I hope she&#039;s out and happy now.

...
We lost really great staff over it.  Both Day and Fdn lost staff from it.  There were some really workable set-ups that got just destroyed by it.  One of my dear friends had such a great job, - she loved it and it allowed her to be on staff, make enough money to make life easy, and she even had time to study.  It had been going on for YEARS and was never a problem. Her bosses were OT and they all worked as a good team.  They were happy and wonderful people.  

Just...shattered from it.  She ended up working in a burger joint or something, it all went to hell.  She later left staff and refused to disconnect from her family - who were declared for no earthly good reason.... she got declared too...moved away.

........
I&#039;m so glad I&#039;m OUT!

Glad for you too!

Happy Friday!]]></description>
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<p>Wow, Aqua&#8230;that&#8217;s just sad &#8211; course, it&#8217;s better in the long run for her, but at the time it would have been so hard on her.  I hope she&#8217;s out and happy now.</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
We lost really great staff over it.  Both Day and Fdn lost staff from it.  There were some really workable set-ups that got just destroyed by it.  One of my dear friends had such a great job, &#8211; she loved it and it allowed her to be on staff, make enough money to make life easy, and she even had time to study.  It had been going on for YEARS and was never a problem. Her bosses were OT and they all worked as a good team.  They were happy and wonderful people.  </p>
<p>Just&#8230;shattered from it.  She ended up working in a burger joint or something, it all went to hell.  She later left staff and refused to disconnect from her family &#8211; who were declared for no earthly good reason&#8230;. she got declared too&#8230;moved away.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
I&#8217;m so glad I&#8217;m OUT!</p>
<p>Glad for you too!</p>
<p>Happy Friday!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235884&quot;&gt;Ammo Alamo&lt;/a&gt;.

Ammo, thanks for telling me this and I understand, but no kidding, I didn&#039;t take anything personally!  Its obvious to me and anyone who reads your posts that you hate injustice and that it drives you crazy to see innocent, undeserving people exploited and otherwise abused.  And I can relate. There are things the cult has done (to others) that I&#039;ve observed which have made me utterly furious.  Thinking about them, some of them, even now, can still rile me up. What killed me about these wrongs and injustices  I observed being done to my then fellow Scientologist was that in abusing and exploiting these good, well meaning, helpful people, the cherch was hurting  ITSELF even more than its victims!  So senseless and unnecessary, such a waste of time, energy and talent!  So I get it.  And if you ever want to write a cathartic book one day I&#039;ll  contribute my own cherchsploitation stories :).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235884">Ammo Alamo</a>.</p>
<p>Ammo, thanks for telling me this and I understand, but no kidding, I didn&#8217;t take anything personally!  Its obvious to me and anyone who reads your posts that you hate injustice and that it drives you crazy to see innocent, undeserving people exploited and otherwise abused.  And I can relate. There are things the cult has done (to others) that I&#8217;ve observed which have made me utterly furious.  Thinking about them, some of them, even now, can still rile me up. What killed me about these wrongs and injustices  I observed being done to my then fellow Scientologist was that in abusing and exploiting these good, well meaning, helpful people, the cherch was hurting  ITSELF even more than its victims!  So senseless and unnecessary, such a waste of time, energy and talent!  So I get it.  And if you ever want to write a cathartic book one day I&#8217;ll  contribute my own cherchsploitation stories :).</p>
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		By: Ammo Alamo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 07:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235612&quot;&gt;Dave F.&lt;/a&gt;.

When I was a kid the neighbors invited me to go with them on a short weekend to a nice new retirement resort in Arkansas - they had an only son who was a brat and I guess they thought being around me a couple of days would do him some good.   I had a great time - collected fine quartz from the roadside [his dad was a rockhound], got myself a Thunder Egg which, when cut in half, had a great purple crystal hollow interior, and caught a bass fingerling from the newly stocked lake.  

Turns out it was the &quot;free vacation&quot; part of a sales pitch for this new resort, maybe a timeshare thing.  Six months later the neighbors  moved, and shortly after I got a nice thank-you for helping them with their kid that weekend.  It was on stationery from that resort, they were living there, and the dad had become a vice-president of sales!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235612">Dave F.</a>.</p>
<p>When I was a kid the neighbors invited me to go with them on a short weekend to a nice new retirement resort in Arkansas &#8211; they had an only son who was a brat and I guess they thought being around me a couple of days would do him some good.   I had a great time &#8211; collected fine quartz from the roadside [his dad was a rockhound], got myself a Thunder Egg which, when cut in half, had a great purple crystal hollow interior, and caught a bass fingerling from the newly stocked lake.  </p>
<p>Turns out it was the &#8220;free vacation&#8221; part of a sales pitch for this new resort, maybe a timeshare thing.  Six months later the neighbors  moved, and shortly after I got a nice thank-you for helping them with their kid that weekend.  It was on stationery from that resort, they were living there, and the dad had become a vice-president of sales!</p>
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		By: Ammo Alamo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 05:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235693&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aquamarine - thanks for the information.   Sometimes I go quite a bit too far in my criticism of all things Scilon.  It is because I have a streak of empathy in me that goes very deep - my wife notices it all the time.  Knowing how badly the Scilon world hurts not only innocents but each other, too, drives me crazy, so like an idiot I tend to strike out without thinking.  To Irina, if she reads this blog, please forgive me for anything I wrote that was hurtful - it was my anger at the church of Scientology and its worst practices, not you personally, that set me off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235693">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aquamarine &#8211; thanks for the information.   Sometimes I go quite a bit too far in my criticism of all things Scilon.  It is because I have a streak of empathy in me that goes very deep &#8211; my wife notices it all the time.  Knowing how badly the Scilon world hurts not only innocents but each other, too, drives me crazy, so like an idiot I tend to strike out without thinking.  To Irina, if she reads this blog, please forgive me for anything I wrote that was hurtful &#8211; it was my anger at the church of Scientology and its worst practices, not you personally, that set me off.</p>
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		By: Ann Davis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235770&quot;&gt;Francois Tremblay&lt;/a&gt;.

So have I, but not because of scientology.  It destroys it&#039;s parishioners.]]></description>
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<p>So have I, but not because of scientology.  It destroys it&#8217;s parishioners.</p>
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		By: Francois Tremblay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235628&quot;&gt;Ammo Alamo&lt;/a&gt;.

But thankfully I&#039;ve never been in Scientology. I imagine that would make life worse no matter what your situation is...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-org-staff-pay/#comment-235628">Ammo Alamo</a>.</p>
<p>But thankfully I&#8217;ve never been in Scientology. I imagine that would make life worse no matter what your situation is&#8230;</p>
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