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		By: Gravitysucks		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-234612</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gravitysucks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 03:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233488&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233488">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent!</p>
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		By: Kronomex		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233823</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kronomex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 21:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Thousands cruise through within those hours.&quot;
Ten slow down as they go past our empty booths.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thousands cruise through within those hours.&#8221;<br />
Ten slow down as they go past our empty booths.</p>
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		By: Golden Era Parachute		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233651</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golden Era Parachute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 22:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233560&quot;&gt;Ann Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

I noticed that too. It seems correct. The description matches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233560">Ann Davis</a>.</p>
<p>I noticed that too. It seems correct. The description matches.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233588</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233489&quot;&gt;Cre8tivewmn&lt;/a&gt;.

The class V org I was staff at had it&#039;s own DSA office, CCHR group and one or two reps for other social programs.  (a Day and Fdn org that ran with staffing of 10-35 staff per org on average over several decades) 

I&#039;ve done services at two other class V orgs but they were so small they only had a couple staff for the whole org and I have no info on any of the groups in these two cities.  I doubt there was any presence at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233489">Cre8tivewmn</a>.</p>
<p>The class V org I was staff at had it&#8217;s own DSA office, CCHR group and one or two reps for other social programs.  (a Day and Fdn org that ran with staffing of 10-35 staff per org on average over several decades) </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done services at two other class V orgs but they were so small they only had a couple staff for the whole org and I have no info on any of the groups in these two cities.  I doubt there was any presence at all.</p>
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		By: Peabody		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peabody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233548&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

I get calls from the &quot;Church of Scientology&quot; per caller ID. I answer and they hang up. What a frickin joke.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233548">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>I get calls from the &#8220;Church of Scientology&#8221; per caller ID. I answer and they hang up. What a frickin joke.</p>
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		By: Peabody		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peabody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233548&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s probably a stat they would not publish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233548">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably a stat they would not publish.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alcoboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233472&quot;&gt;Ann Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, were I still guzzling the Kool-aid, I would probably say yes, but now.........]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233472">Ann Davis</a>.</p>
<p>Well, were I still guzzling the Kool-aid, I would probably say yes, but now&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ann Davis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233506&quot;&gt;Golden Era Parachute&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m actually trying to do that right now!  What comes up is Aftermath Foundation, in Texas, 2017.  I&#039;m not sure if this is correct as I thought it was in Colorado.  If anyone can help me with that I would really appreciate it.  I shop all the time on Amazon and have tried to do this before.  TY for the link, now I need to be sure I have it right! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/263a.png" alt="☺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233506">Golden Era Parachute</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually trying to do that right now!  What comes up is Aftermath Foundation, in Texas, 2017.  I&#8217;m not sure if this is correct as I thought it was in Colorado.  If anyone can help me with that I would really appreciate it.  I shop all the time on Amazon and have tried to do this before.  TY for the link, now I need to be sure I have it right! ☺</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233549</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 06:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233460&quot;&gt;Chris Shugart&lt;/a&gt;.

And further, it all means that they aren&#039;t able to do anything more than take token steps in disaster relief efforts.  They could actually roll out something significant and impactful if they focused their attention and resources, but that would take a well-planned and sustained effort that wouldn&#039;t necessarily generate impressive-looking stats Thursday after Thursday - and it&#039;s not in Hubbard&#039;s playbook.

It seems that they may have been brushed off by disaster relief officials and organizations in the Carolinas, who have figured out what they&#039;re up to and what they&#039;re capable of - meaning nothing in the way of meaningful help, but devious exploitation of photo opportunities.   There&#039;s no sign in their official VM social media feeds of any Florence-related efforts, and in fact they are re-posting old photo opportunities from other places and other countries in what looks as if it might be calculated distraction from their inaction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233460">Chris Shugart</a>.</p>
<p>And further, it all means that they aren&#8217;t able to do anything more than take token steps in disaster relief efforts.  They could actually roll out something significant and impactful if they focused their attention and resources, but that would take a well-planned and sustained effort that wouldn&#8217;t necessarily generate impressive-looking stats Thursday after Thursday &#8211; and it&#8217;s not in Hubbard&#8217;s playbook.</p>
<p>It seems that they may have been brushed off by disaster relief officials and organizations in the Carolinas, who have figured out what they&#8217;re up to and what they&#8217;re capable of &#8211; meaning nothing in the way of meaningful help, but devious exploitation of photo opportunities.   There&#8217;s no sign in their official VM social media feeds of any Florence-related efforts, and in fact they are re-posting old photo opportunities from other places and other countries in what looks as if it might be calculated distraction from their inaction.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233548</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 06:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233440&quot;&gt;Peabody&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve gotten the impression that these days, member records are being scrutinized for signs that people might be disaffected or UTR, and so they are paying closer attention to participation, including numbering event tickets so that they can track who actually attends.  So I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if, for instance, the chance to earn brownie points by sitting in a front group booth at an event, might ironically look attractive to someone who is trying to avoid going in to the org.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ideal-orgs-and-front-groups/#comment-233440">Peabody</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten the impression that these days, member records are being scrutinized for signs that people might be disaffected or UTR, and so they are paying closer attention to participation, including numbering event tickets so that they can track who actually attends.  So I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if, for instance, the chance to earn brownie points by sitting in a front group booth at an event, might ironically look attractive to someone who is trying to avoid going in to the org.</p>
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