OT levels dredged up from Captain Bill’s ramblings would be a real hoot lol

Probably better than anything that Slappy Miscavige could dream up tho.

I know, it’s hopeless. Well, almost. It’s a fantasy. It sure would be fun!

When you think about it, this ultra-Helecopter mentality, that a parent has to constantly watch out for their children who never seem to grow up, is not helped by the parents’ continued association with Scientology.

Scientology constantly juvenilizes their adherents:

“You’ll need to do a full CSW if you want time off from course to go to your brother’s wedding.”

“The CS is sending you to ethics to handle what came up in your sec check.”

“Your departure to visit your sister was unauthorized, and you have 24 hours to return or it will be considered a blow.”

On and on. You are not trusted to make your own decisions. Or mistakes. Or your life’s pathway. It will not be possible for you to ever graduate Scientology with well-wishes from them.

Richard —

I disagree. You say FP makes no apologies for the current CO$, yet he has often defended Hubbard’s cruel policies which are still carried out by Miscavige — i.e. Fair Game, disconnection, “never defend, always attack”, etc., etc.

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THAT is my old org, Wynski! Wow. And, yes, those videos of other orgs you posted show the same limping scene. You’re making my day. These criminals are going DOWN.

Hey Richard,
Thanks for your response. All I want to do is what works. I don’t care who invented it or copied it, or plagiarized it. God, Vishnu, Moses, Jesus, LRH, Mickey and Minnie Mouse – I don’t care! If it works, it works, and if it doesn’t, it doesn’t. And I see no reason to not cherry pick from here and there as regards what works. There’s so much I don’t know and may never know. I like living in the question. I don’t want to ever become mentally rigid and inflexible. There is so much to learn…at the same time, when something works, provenly, in the laboratory of one’s life, use it! Use it, and worry later about who invented it or codified it or stole it, or stole it and renamed it…etc., etc., etc…who cares? Not me, when it comes to application of a workable principle. Who the true source is, well that’s an interesting discussion, sure. And what kind of a PERSON was the inventor of the workable thing? That’s also interesting, but tangential, no? In both the Old Testament and the New Testament the Bible has some real wisdom and some provenly workable principles to live by: OK, great, does that mean I have to ALSO believe in talking snakes, feeding 5 thousand people with 5 loaves of bread and 5 fishes, and water walking? The guy who invented the wheel, was he a nice person? He (or she) could have been an absolute creep. Ok, you get the idea.

Ok, fair enough, Foolproof. Your answer makes sense and I appreciate that you didn’t fluff me off with a deflection, however clever and amusing it might have been, and as you are apt to do sometimes. Just so I have it straight while I attempt to look from your viewpoint: you are NOT a defender of Miscavige’s organizational criminal practices; you are a defender of the auditing and training tech and as such you take exception to, and want to correct what you consider to be unfair, inaccurate and/or 100%f wrong attacks on what you yourself practice and enjoy as a workable technology. That is where you are coming from, essentially. However you choose to express yourself about this on this blog, in whatever way you choose to respond to that with which you do not agree on this blog at any given time, this IS your viewpoint, and essentially, where you are coming from, when you post here. Do I have this right? Correct me if I’m wrong or missing anything. My thanks in advance.

Fool, please QUOTE where a person posted that “the use of the word “wog” in Scientology is racist”…

Anyone with a belief in an afterlife, be it heaven/hell or reincarnation/past lives might be drawn to some organized religion. Likewise anyone believing in a Universal Intelligence as perceived through their cultural filters. Realists and atheists would describe both as wishful thinking.

The entry level of scientology is presented as Western science applied to Eastern philosophy and religion and requires no preconceived notion of an afterlife or Universal Intelligence. That comes later.

Most if not all religious scripture comes from the minds of human beings IMHO. Some people attribute outside agency such as gods, goddesses, God. spirit guides and the list goes on as contributing to the visions of their prophets. Hubbard spoke as a prophet.

In a sense it’s just a fun can of worms to open. Here are my own personal beliefs . . . . . . . nah . . . . . never mind.