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		By: Kronomex		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 22:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Look down in the sewer, it&#039;s Captain Ken Kraptastic the superhero whose only power is that the shit comes out of his mouth and not his arse. Yes, Ken Kraptastic, who fell to Earth when the dunny (Australian slang for toilet) on the DC8 spaceship blew up because a giant number two got stuck in the pipes and caused an overload.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look down in the sewer, it&#8217;s Captain Ken Kraptastic the superhero whose only power is that the shit comes out of his mouth and not his arse. Yes, Ken Kraptastic, who fell to Earth when the dunny (Australian slang for toilet) on the DC8 spaceship blew up because a giant number two got stuck in the pipes and caused an overload.</p>
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		By: jim rowles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 22:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362767&quot;&gt;Nancy Vasta&lt;/a&gt;.

Nancy,

In spite of some physical issues with your &#039;brain&#039; your &#039;mind&#039; is working very well.  I have two friends (well over 80) who recovered quite a bit with real MDs and PT technicians working with them.   The amazing human body can do marvelous things when required of it.

best to you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362767">Nancy Vasta</a>.</p>
<p>Nancy,</p>
<p>In spite of some physical issues with your &#8216;brain&#8217; your &#8216;mind&#8217; is working very well.  I have two friends (well over 80) who recovered quite a bit with real MDs and PT technicians working with them.   The amazing human body can do marvelous things when required of it.</p>
<p>best to you</p>
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		By: Golden Era Paracgute		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 18:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362767&quot;&gt;Nancy Vasta&lt;/a&gt;.

Not only does the Church of Scientology not believe in the appropriate level of mental care by certified professionals, they believe the uncertified charlatans at any Scientology Org can practice such medicine better with often disastrous results. 

I mentioned Jim Carrey&#039;s ex-girlfriend, previously on Mike&#039;s blog, who committed suicide while on course at an Org as an example.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362767">Nancy Vasta</a>.</p>
<p>Not only does the Church of Scientology not believe in the appropriate level of mental care by certified professionals, they believe the uncertified charlatans at any Scientology Org can practice such medicine better with often disastrous results. </p>
<p>I mentioned Jim Carrey&#8217;s ex-girlfriend, previously on Mike&#8217;s blog, who committed suicide while on course at an Org as an example.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362708&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Jere I will. Before me comes the family. 
A lot of people this summer went in other countries and had parties and such things without respecting any distancing, no masks etc. Now this is the result - here in Europe it is not yet started but is already worst that March/April.
Stay safe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362708">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Jere I will. Before me comes the family.<br />
A lot of people this summer went in other countries and had parties and such things without respecting any distancing, no masks etc. Now this is the result &#8211; here in Europe it is not yet started but is already worst that March/April.<br />
Stay safe.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362755&quot;&gt;Miriam&lt;/a&gt;.

Miriam thank you. Here in Italy is about 1 positive every 35/40 tests. However this single positive has already met minimum other 3 to 5 people. My point was that is starting again with trumpets abd fireworks (based on current numbers).
In regards of Scn if meetings or gatherings will be still fotbidden it will be a great KO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362755">Miriam</a>.</p>
<p>Miriam thank you. Here in Italy is about 1 positive every 35/40 tests. However this single positive has already met minimum other 3 to 5 people. My point was that is starting again with trumpets abd fireworks (based on current numbers).<br />
In regards of Scn if meetings or gatherings will be still fotbidden it will be a great KO.</p>
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		By: Nancy Vasta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 09:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had to have emergency brain surgery in 2011 due to a bleeding stroke.I made it through but at first could neither see nor walk.I was in the hospital for a month.After getting out of ICU,my physical therapy began.It was five hours a day of grueling exercises.When I finally got home,I could see but needed a cane to walk.Then the PTSD started.Panic attacks,flashbacks,nightmares.Then my neighbor recommended an excellent psychiatrist for me.I have been seeing her once a month ever since.I am on several medications now.They help me.So does the talk therapy.The stroke also left me with short term memory loss.But I am thankful to have found this doctor or I probably would have committed suicide years ago.It is very sad that Scientology does not believe in professional medical help when some people need it badly.And I did not bring on all my medical problems by myself,either.Not in this life or any other one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to have emergency brain surgery in 2011 due to a bleeding stroke.I made it through but at first could neither see nor walk.I was in the hospital for a month.After getting out of ICU,my physical therapy began.It was five hours a day of grueling exercises.When I finally got home,I could see but needed a cane to walk.Then the PTSD started.Panic attacks,flashbacks,nightmares.Then my neighbor recommended an excellent psychiatrist for me.I have been seeing her once a month ever since.I am on several medications now.They help me.So does the talk therapy.The stroke also left me with short term memory loss.But I am thankful to have found this doctor or I probably would have committed suicide years ago.It is very sad that Scientology does not believe in professional medical help when some people need it badly.And I did not bring on all my medical problems by myself,either.Not in this life or any other one.</p>
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		By: Miriam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 05:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362692&quot;&gt;Loosing my Religion&lt;/a&gt;.

Loosing my Religion, look at the relationship between the number of tests versus the number of positive tests.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362692">Loosing my Religion</a>.</p>
<p>Loosing my Religion, look at the relationship between the number of tests versus the number of positive tests.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 02:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362666&quot;&gt;Scribe&lt;/a&gt;.

Scribe, I&#039;d say &quot;Merchants of Chaos&quot; also applies to the Scientology propagandists - always falling into psychological projection, and accusing others of what their own organization is guilty of and makes them do....]]></description>
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<p>Scribe, I&#8217;d say &#8220;Merchants of Chaos&#8221; also applies to the Scientology propagandists &#8211; always falling into psychological projection, and accusing others of what their own organization is guilty of and makes them do&#8230;.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 02:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, it looks like more projection or Freudian slip - or as Hubbard himself put it (caps original):  &quot;THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF IS DOING&quot;

As with many things, there&#039;s a kernel of truth and historical context, in that back around 1950, some of psychiatry was still pseudo-scientific and ineffective, such as the now-derided Fredian analysis in which the patient stereotypically lay on a couch with the practitioner above their head and out of view, and did things like talking about childhoold trauma and free associating, trying in part to explore the unconscious.  It was at the time a trendy thing to do - Woody Allen became a sort of infamous long-term fan and refers to it what now seems excessively - and many analysts charged handsome fees and made a very nice living.

Hubbard had a certain cynical point that, for instance, if Hollywood types who might be classified as high-functioning minor neurotics or &quot;worried well&quot; wanted to pay a lot of money for analysis that was was a largely feelgood placebo-level exercise, he might as well be getting that money as someone with fancy credentials.  However, again typically, Hubbard was actually late to the game and things were already changing in psychiatry and psychology by the time he was criticizing obsolete if not yet entirely abandoned practices (including lobotomy, which peaked in the late 1940s and quickly became rare).  

The mental health professions quickly became increasingly professional, scientific and outcome-driven, not to mention taking advantage of signficiant advances in research and medicine.  Scientology of course remained mired in a sort of static world of the 1950s - and very un-scientific.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it looks like more projection or Freudian slip &#8211; or as Hubbard himself put it (caps original):  &#8220;THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF IS DOING&#8221;</p>
<p>As with many things, there&#8217;s a kernel of truth and historical context, in that back around 1950, some of psychiatry was still pseudo-scientific and ineffective, such as the now-derided Fredian analysis in which the patient stereotypically lay on a couch with the practitioner above their head and out of view, and did things like talking about childhoold trauma and free associating, trying in part to explore the unconscious.  It was at the time a trendy thing to do &#8211; Woody Allen became a sort of infamous long-term fan and refers to it what now seems excessively &#8211; and many analysts charged handsome fees and made a very nice living.</p>
<p>Hubbard had a certain cynical point that, for instance, if Hollywood types who might be classified as high-functioning minor neurotics or &#8220;worried well&#8221; wanted to pay a lot of money for analysis that was was a largely feelgood placebo-level exercise, he might as well be getting that money as someone with fancy credentials.  However, again typically, Hubbard was actually late to the game and things were already changing in psychiatry and psychology by the time he was criticizing obsolete if not yet entirely abandoned practices (including lobotomy, which peaked in the late 1940s and quickly became rare).  </p>
<p>The mental health professions quickly became increasingly professional, scientific and outcome-driven, not to mention taking advantage of signficiant advances in research and medicine.  Scientology of course remained mired in a sort of static world of the 1950s &#8211; and very un-scientific.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2020 23:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/irony-theyve-never-heard-the-word/#comment-362703&quot;&gt;Todd Cray&lt;/a&gt;.

“...predictability of a dog’s reaction to the mail carrier.”

Hilarious!  <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
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<p>“&#8230;predictability of a dog’s reaction to the mail carrier.”</p>
<p>Hilarious!  😆</p>
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