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Irony? They’ve Never Heard The Word

September 26, 2020 By Mike Rinder 27 Comments

The anti-psych brigade, with Ken Cramer driving the clown car, are at it again.

Change the sign in his cartoon below from psychiatrist to scientologist and it would be a far more accurate depiction.

While psychiatrists may charge fees for their services, scientology is obsessed with getting people’s money. There are sales courses and finding ruins and bringing up to need of change and Big League Sales and of course, MAKE MONEY. MAKE MORE MONEY. I don’t think you could find a psychiatric text on how to go about getting money from people, but there are volumes of them in scientology.

And as if to prove the point, Cramer’s “Put your loot here” plea to send him your money.

It is hard to fathom the lack of self-awareness required to make public statements like these. But I guess that comes with the territory of believing you know everything and those not in your special circle of “superior knowledge” (the “wogs”) are all uneducated and/or evil fools who are obviously too stupid to be able to understand.

 

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Filed Under: Psychiatry Tagged With: CCHR, Ken Cramer

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  1. Kronomex says

    September 29, 2020 at 6:34 pm

    Look down in the sewer, it’s Captain Ken Kraptastic the superhero whose only power is that the shit comes out of his mouth and not his arse. Yes, Ken Kraptastic, who fell to Earth when the dunny (Australian slang for toilet) on the DC8 spaceship blew up because a giant number two got stuck in the pipes and caused an overload.

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  2. Nancy Vasta says

    September 27, 2020 at 5:26 am

    I had to have emergency brain surgery in 2011 due to a bleeding stroke.I made it through but at first could neither see nor walk.I was in the hospital for a month.After getting out of ICU,my physical therapy began.It was five hours a day of grueling exercises.When I finally got home,I could see but needed a cane to walk.Then the PTSD started.Panic attacks,flashbacks,nightmares.Then my neighbor recommended an excellent psychiatrist for me.I have been seeing her once a month ever since.I am on several medications now.They help me.So does the talk therapy.The stroke also left me with short term memory loss.But I am thankful to have found this doctor or I probably would have committed suicide years ago.It is very sad that Scientology does not believe in professional medical help when some people need it badly.And I did not bring on all my medical problems by myself,either.Not in this life or any other one.

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    • Golden Era Paracgute says

      September 27, 2020 at 2:02 pm

      Not only does the Church of Scientology not believe in the appropriate level of mental care by certified professionals, they believe the uncertified charlatans at any Scientology Org can practice such medicine better with often disastrous results.

      I mentioned Jim Carrey’s ex-girlfriend, previously on Mike’s blog, who committed suicide while on course at an Org as an example.

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    • jim rowles says

      September 27, 2020 at 6:43 pm

      Nancy,

      In spite of some physical issues with your ‘brain’ your ‘mind’ is working very well. I have two friends (well over 80) who recovered quite a bit with real MDs and PT technicians working with them. The amazing human body can do marvelous things when required of it.

      best to you

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  3. PeaceMaker says

    September 26, 2020 at 10:40 pm

    Yes, it looks like more projection or Freudian slip – or as Hubbard himself put it (caps original): “THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF IS DOING”

    As with many things, there’s a kernel of truth and historical context, in that back around 1950, some of psychiatry was still pseudo-scientific and ineffective, such as the now-derided Fredian analysis in which the patient stereotypically lay on a couch with the practitioner above their head and out of view, and did things like talking about childhoold trauma and free associating, trying in part to explore the unconscious. It was at the time a trendy thing to do – Woody Allen became a sort of infamous long-term fan and refers to it what now seems excessively – and many analysts charged handsome fees and made a very nice living.

    Hubbard had a certain cynical point that, for instance, if Hollywood types who might be classified as high-functioning minor neurotics or “worried well” wanted to pay a lot of money for analysis that was was a largely feelgood placebo-level exercise, he might as well be getting that money as someone with fancy credentials. However, again typically, Hubbard was actually late to the game and things were already changing in psychiatry and psychology by the time he was criticizing obsolete if not yet entirely abandoned practices (including lobotomy, which peaked in the late 1940s and quickly became rare).

    The mental health professions quickly became increasingly professional, scientific and outcome-driven, not to mention taking advantage of signficiant advances in research and medicine. Scientology of course remained mired in a sort of static world of the 1950s – and very un-scientific.

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  4. Todd Cray says

    September 26, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    This cartoon is amazing for its sheer stupidity! It’s one thing to be a hypocrite. It’s quite another to insist on making it so needlessly and painfully obvious!

    Here’s a group that whines and moans constantly about how they are victims of bigotry. Yet they are not only OK with dismissing an entire category of human beings for the choice of their profession–a helping profession, no less–but feel that it’s their duty to foam at the mouth at them any chance they get with the mindlessness and predictability of a rat dog’s raction to the mail carrier.

    To quote a red herring scientologists like to use any chance they get: “What if we were to change the group demeaned to ‘Jews?'”

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    • KatherineINCali says

      September 26, 2020 at 7:31 pm

      “…predictability of a dog’s reaction to the mail carrier.”

      Hilarious! 😆

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  5. Loosing my Religion says

    September 26, 2020 at 2:34 pm

    Off topic. Covid 19 in Europe has raised its head again and this time it looks worse than March.
    There are apparently tens of thousands of cases in ONE DAY in Spain and possibly France. Here in Italy we are still under 2 thousand per day. But it is restarting and it looks like it will be much worse although they want to sound optimistic (as they did last time and it was a disaster).
    I really wish I knew what the f**k DM has to say about it (I mean to his own members).
    This time scn will have little to go around with VMs giving booklets on how to wash hands. The cult will have other problems, mainly related to its final extinction. RIP.

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    • Jere Lull says

      September 26, 2020 at 5:07 pm

      LmR, please stay safe. I cherish your observations.

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      • LoosingMyReligion says

        September 27, 2020 at 8:52 am

        Jere I will. Before me comes the family.
        A lot of people this summer went in other countries and had parties and such things without respecting any distancing, no masks etc. Now this is the result – here in Europe it is not yet started but is already worst that March/April.
        Stay safe.

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    • Miriam says

      September 27, 2020 at 1:19 am

      Loosing my Religion, look at the relationship between the number of tests versus the number of positive tests.

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      • LoosingMyReligion says

        September 27, 2020 at 8:41 am

        Miriam thank you. Here in Italy is about 1 positive every 35/40 tests. However this single positive has already met minimum other 3 to 5 people. My point was that is starting again with trumpets abd fireworks (based on current numbers).
        In regards of Scn if meetings or gatherings will be still fotbidden it will be a great KO.

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  6. jim rowles says

    September 26, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    Dear Mike,

    Through the auspices of your blog and your readers, the number of people not-in-good-standing with the cherch who read their promotions is ten fold what it would be otherwise.

    You should charge the cherch for the stat.

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    • Jere Lull says

      September 26, 2020 at 5:09 pm

      You’re right of course, Jim, but scientology is nothing if not completely out-exchange these days. WE are more interested in scientology’s current state than any wogs, and perhaps more attentive and better-informed than most of the clams still buried in the sand.

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  7. Loosing my Religion says

    September 26, 2020 at 11:57 am

    So true. Also, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a psychiatrist or psychologist launching an endless fundraising campaign or that they went to people’s homes and bothered for hours asking for money for some bullshit like “we have 24 hours to save the world from this or that “. And then push as many buttons as possible that the person may have.

    Rather wasn’t it Hubbard and so now the cult that was attached to money to the point of always giving birth to new things that replaced what people had already paid for and so on? So it is fair to say that no ‘product’ was NEVER really a product (not enough tested), but he was selling it anyway and expensive too.
    This too is also ironic (and scamming).

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  8. Balletlady says

    September 26, 2020 at 11:48 am

    Let’s see now…..for many people a real live trained psychiatrist or psychologist can help people deal with the issues of life. Sometimes it is through counseling & sometimes with counseling and medications to help control their anxiety or to quell the “voices in their head”.

    Scientology….you pay pay for………Physician heal thy self?????? With COS training one can ” heal thyself”…so much for the patient treating themselves..i.e… sick patient…..

    At least IF you have insurance, in most cases your counseling sessions will be partially paid for…or in some cases fully paid for…with COS…YOU PAY PAY PAY & well…we all know the outcome for someone who truly needs extended “MENTAL HEALTH CARE”….several names come to mind..one being Lisa Mc…

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    • Jere Lull says

      September 26, 2020 at 5:22 pm

      Balletlady, scientology will of course charge their fees to insurance, medicare, medicaid, when they think they can get away from it. Just look at the “Full Court Press” at the bottom of most of the articles at the Underground Bunker. For such a tiny, tiny group, they have a LOT of their people facing serious fines or jail time for believing they’re above the law. Nobbe’s case was an interesting one. As a condition of release on bond, he was forbidden from contacting specified people. Not only he contact them, clumsily trying to obscure his tracks by buying new cellphones, but he offered to BRIBE one or more of the very people he’d been told not to contact! Oh, so very BRIGHT! 😉

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  9. Scribe says

    September 26, 2020 at 11:13 am

    Nice to see Ken taking responsibility – that should keep the MAA at bay, unless of course he creates a flap. Jokers and Degraders obviously doesn’t apply when you’re taking on all those evil psychs, much less Generalities Won’t Do. The planet will be cleared in no time! Hip Hip Hoo-dave.

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    • PeaceMaker says

      September 26, 2020 at 10:58 pm

      Scribe, I’d say “Merchants of Chaos” also applies to the Scientology propagandists – always falling into psychological projection, and accusing others of what their own organization is guilty of and makes them do….

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  10. Glenn says

    September 26, 2020 at 11:11 am

    Hey, I don’t see cameras on the wall in the cartoon just like are used in auditing rooms at Flag. There it is referred to as the “Look In System” and registrars and others can view the footage and use any information gathered in their pitches for more money later on. Oh yes, the psychiatrists are Wogs and have a LOT to learn.

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  11. JJ says

    September 26, 2020 at 11:03 am

    Most of these cartoons are just dull and lazy, but a whole lot of the ones drawn by Horst Dubiel look like they were traced from Nazi propaganda about Jewish intellectuals preying on white women.

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  12. grisianfarce says

    September 26, 2020 at 10:19 am

    The “Psychiatrist” sign is the wrong way round too, suggesting the wolf represents Scientology only seeing money instead of individual people.

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    • Loosing my Religion says

      September 26, 2020 at 12:46 pm

      Grisianfarce. Correct, if a guy shows up in an org and he says to be a wealthy person let’s see how long it will take to the org regges, IAS, various fundraising FSMs, pub orgs etc, to appear from nothing and jump (or parachuted with the knife between the teeth) on the guy to get his damn money.

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      • Jere Lull says

        September 26, 2020 at 5:24 pm

        Great visual, LmR!

        Sadly, too close to the truth.

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    • SILVIA says

      September 26, 2020 at 1:00 pm

      Exactly my thoughts.

      Per the scriptures of ‘Criminal Mind’, the criminal accuses others of what he is doing. Perfect application of that Policy…isn’t it?

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      • Loosing my Religion says

        September 26, 2020 at 2:12 pm

        Silvia. CORRECT!

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  13. Mary Kahn says

    September 26, 2020 at 10:04 am

    You are so right about that “cartoon!” “Scientologist” is way more fitting… and true.

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