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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-78250&quot;&gt;FairTech&lt;/a&gt;.

Not sure who this is directed to FairTech? 

Here is the reference you cite:

NOT HCO POLICY LETTER 
CORRECT COLOUR FLASH BLUE ON WHITE 
EXECUTIVE DIRECTIVE FROM L. RON HUBBARD 
LRH ED 7 INT 
Date 16 March 1969 

CLOSING OR COMBINING ORGS 

CLOSING OR COMBINING ORGS WITH THEIR FOUNDATIONS IS UNLAWFUL AND IS AN ACT OF HIGH TREASON. 

PLANNING FOR THE OPENING OF NEW ORGS IS THE DUTY OF EACH OES. ALL SUCH PLANNING MUST INCLUDE THE PRIMARY TARGET OF HAVING AND TRAINING STAFF. 

L. RON HUBBARD
Founder]]></description>
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<p>Not sure who this is directed to FairTech? </p>
<p>Here is the reference you cite:</p>
<p>NOT HCO POLICY LETTER<br />
CORRECT COLOUR FLASH BLUE ON WHITE<br />
EXECUTIVE DIRECTIVE FROM L. RON HUBBARD<br />
LRH ED 7 INT<br />
Date 16 March 1969 </p>
<p>CLOSING OR COMBINING ORGS </p>
<p>CLOSING OR COMBINING ORGS WITH THEIR FOUNDATIONS IS UNLAWFUL AND IS AN ACT OF HIGH TREASON. </p>
<p>PLANNING FOR THE OPENING OF NEW ORGS IS THE DUTY OF EACH OES. ALL SUCH PLANNING MUST INCLUDE THE PRIMARY TARGET OF HAVING AND TRAINING STAFF. </p>
<p>L. RON HUBBARD<br />
Founder</p>
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		By: FairTech		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Idiot

This is an LRH ED dated  16 March 1969 page 472  OEC Volume 7

Please get it right]]></description>
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<p>This is an LRH ED dated  16 March 1969 page 472  OEC Volume 7</p>
<p>Please get it right</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77993</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 04:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77840&quot;&gt;cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Cindy, Omitted Data is the most difficult to spot outpoint, per the Data Series.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77840">cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Cindy, Omitted Data is the most difficult to spot outpoint, per the Data Series.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 04:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77839&quot;&gt;McCarran&lt;/a&gt;.

I also find it incredible that the old timers still in would not seriously query this combining of orgs.  I have some people in mind who know plenty of admin tech.  They absolutely know this policy letter about combining orgs being a treasonous act.  Leaving &quot;treason&quot; aside, consolidation of this sort is what a company does when its shrinking.  Examples abound.]]></description>
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<p>I also find it incredible that the old timers still in would not seriously query this combining of orgs.  I have some people in mind who know plenty of admin tech.  They absolutely know this policy letter about combining orgs being a treasonous act.  Leaving &#8220;treason&#8221; aside, consolidation of this sort is what a company does when its shrinking.  Examples abound.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 04:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77931&quot;&gt;cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Edit: I was told years ago, not &quot;when&quot; years ago.]]></description>
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<p>Edit: I was told years ago, not &#8220;when&#8221; years ago.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 04:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77931&quot;&gt;cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Cindy, you&#039;re right, there are no new people and/or young people coming in.  This combining of orgs (a suppressive act, I was told when years ago) is just an expediency so that the place looks less empty and so that Miscavige is not embarrassed in front of everyone - for now.  This consolidated org is going to shrink because what was causing the Day and Foundation orgs to shrink was NOT the fact that they were 2 orgs which should have been 1. The Real Why is not getting handled and will never be handled, so this combined org will continue to shrink also but for now it will be less noticable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77931">cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Cindy, you&#8217;re right, there are no new people and/or young people coming in.  This combining of orgs (a suppressive act, I was told when years ago) is just an expediency so that the place looks less empty and so that Miscavige is not embarrassed in front of everyone &#8211; for now.  This consolidated org is going to shrink because what was causing the Day and Foundation orgs to shrink was NOT the fact that they were 2 orgs which should have been 1. The Real Why is not getting handled and will never be handled, so this combined org will continue to shrink also but for now it will be less noticable.</p>
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		By: Ron		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 21:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stranded tech. I really liked being hammered by some teenie bopper inventing their version of standard tech.
There comes a time when old people have trouble holding cans for extended periods so Bridge came up with a great design that was supposed to handle that problem. It looked like a piece of galvanized stove pipe about eight inches long with the side cut out of it rolled to fit the average arm of a fat person and the edge was trimmed with felt to prevent bleeding. By that I mean it was not possible to maintain constant contact on a thin or skinny arm if one were to move even one millimeter. It was called a wrist strap. First clue. Straps look like straps they don&#039;t look like a gladiators gauntlet. I was forced to buy a pair because they were (standard) issue. I put them babies on and rock slammed my way from .9 to infinity through a squeeze drill.The sup whispered out the side of his mouth That they may need to be cut down to size to work properly so being a metal guy I did.
I cut up a couple good tinplate cans and made some bands about 3&quot;x3&quot; for starts that worked well. I put them on the same arm freeing up my other one to operate the meter, no more body motion.
Then one day the tech sec quietly asked me if I could do some for others. Sure anything for my fellow homo novis if I can fly in the face of draconian arbitrary tech. I made some out of silver,copper screen or whatever worked for them. The result being that they could finally be at cause, in the chair and get to go home and audit. So here is some usable data. If the TA is too low reduce the size of the bands or get them perforated to reduce sweating. If the TA is too high get larger bands or more lotion. Standard industrial art.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stranded tech. I really liked being hammered by some teenie bopper inventing their version of standard tech.<br />
There comes a time when old people have trouble holding cans for extended periods so Bridge came up with a great design that was supposed to handle that problem. It looked like a piece of galvanized stove pipe about eight inches long with the side cut out of it rolled to fit the average arm of a fat person and the edge was trimmed with felt to prevent bleeding. By that I mean it was not possible to maintain constant contact on a thin or skinny arm if one were to move even one millimeter. It was called a wrist strap. First clue. Straps look like straps they don&#8217;t look like a gladiators gauntlet. I was forced to buy a pair because they were (standard) issue. I put them babies on and rock slammed my way from .9 to infinity through a squeeze drill.The sup whispered out the side of his mouth That they may need to be cut down to size to work properly so being a metal guy I did.<br />
I cut up a couple good tinplate cans and made some bands about 3&#8243;x3&#8243; for starts that worked well. I put them on the same arm freeing up my other one to operate the meter, no more body motion.<br />
Then one day the tech sec quietly asked me if I could do some for others. Sure anything for my fellow homo novis if I can fly in the face of draconian arbitrary tech. I made some out of silver,copper screen or whatever worked for them. The result being that they could finally be at cause, in the chair and get to go home and audit. So here is some usable data. If the TA is too low reduce the size of the bands or get them perforated to reduce sweating. If the TA is too high get larger bands or more lotion. Standard industrial art.</p>
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		By: Ron		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77875&quot;&gt;sheeplebane&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know Larry Byrnes but I do know a lot about whistle blowers, conspiracies, conspiracy theories, denial, political correctness,Kool aid drinkers and who&#039;s Kool Aid is being promoted.
For example: Back in 58, USN, So. China Sea. We bombed the fuck out of Sumatra for 3 mo.We were told that we were putting down a communist revolution which turned out to be total BS. Thirty thousand civilians were killed before Sukarno caved. No one blew the whistle at that time, no conspiracy theorists either.
Fifty years later I learned that the US and Shell oil conspired to put the heat on Sukarno because he had the audacity to nationalize their own oil fields. what I am getting at is that a conspiracy is two or more individuals or parties that are secretly planning something illegal. Do government alphabet agencies do it, do banks do it,do churches do it, do corporatocracies do it? Fuck yeah. My advice is to eschew, denial, political correctness, MSM and seek  the truth by knowing both sides of an argument. I knew that DM was one creepy ass psychopath the first time I saw him but I wasn&#039;t willing to become a social pariah while I still had too much money on account. There I communicated.I may blow a whistle later if I don&#039;t get a shit storm of back flash.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77875">sheeplebane</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know Larry Byrnes but I do know a lot about whistle blowers, conspiracies, conspiracy theories, denial, political correctness,Kool aid drinkers and who&#8217;s Kool Aid is being promoted.<br />
For example: Back in 58, USN, So. China Sea. We bombed the fuck out of Sumatra for 3 mo.We were told that we were putting down a communist revolution which turned out to be total BS. Thirty thousand civilians were killed before Sukarno caved. No one blew the whistle at that time, no conspiracy theorists either.<br />
Fifty years later I learned that the US and Shell oil conspired to put the heat on Sukarno because he had the audacity to nationalize their own oil fields. what I am getting at is that a conspiracy is two or more individuals or parties that are secretly planning something illegal. Do government alphabet agencies do it, do banks do it,do churches do it, do corporatocracies do it? Fuck yeah. My advice is to eschew, denial, political correctness, MSM and seek  the truth by knowing both sides of an argument. I knew that DM was one creepy ass psychopath the first time I saw him but I wasn&#8217;t willing to become a social pariah while I still had too much money on account. There I communicated.I may blow a whistle later if I don&#8217;t get a shit storm of back flash.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77929&quot;&gt;cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Definition from scientology glossary:

SMERSH: the secret police units assigned to the Russian Red Army that watched closely for signs of dissent or defeatism, created during World War II. Western intelligence agencies long attributed the word “Smersh” to an acronym for “Sme(rt) Sh(pionam),” or “Death to Spies.” Kirill Khenkin, in his book Hunter Upside Down, says the acronym was derived from the phrase “Spetsial Nie Metodi Razoblachenia Schpinov,” which means “Special Methods for Exposing Spies.” Whatever the origin of “Smersh,” the fictional character James Bond fought this mysterious group for the better part of his career. LRH used the word “Smersh” to denote the World Federation of Mental Health and the National Association of Mental Health networks, due to their links with intelligence and government agencies.

Most references to SMERSH are in OSA NW Orders (formerly Guardian Orders)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77929">cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Definition from scientology glossary:</p>
<p>SMERSH: the secret police units assigned to the Russian Red Army that watched closely for signs of dissent or defeatism, created during World War II. Western intelligence agencies long attributed the word “Smersh” to an acronym for “Sme(rt) Sh(pionam),” or “Death to Spies.” Kirill Khenkin, in his book Hunter Upside Down, says the acronym was derived from the phrase “Spetsial Nie Metodi Razoblachenia Schpinov,” which means “Special Methods for Exposing Spies.” Whatever the origin of “Smersh,” the fictional character James Bond fought this mysterious group for the better part of his career. LRH used the word “Smersh” to denote the World Federation of Mental Health and the National Association of Mental Health networks, due to their links with intelligence and government agencies.</p>
<p>Most references to SMERSH are in OSA NW Orders (formerly Guardian Orders)</p>
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		By: Robin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77875&quot;&gt;sheeplebane&lt;/a&gt;.

My knowledge of Larry Byrnes goes back to 1982, when he joined the staff at RealWorld Corp. in New Hampshire, where I was also on staff. He was (foolishly, I thought) put in the position of President by the company&#039;s founder, David Gale, who assumed the role of CEO. 

Under Larry&#039;s &quot;leadership&quot;, he led the effort to convert a secular business into a Scientology recruitment org. As VP Legal, it was my job to make the workplace clear of religious discrimination, and dealing with Byrnes on this point was dealing with insanity. I got more &quot;wrong-indications / evals&quot; from Byrnes than any other Scientologist. In fact, I owe him for showing me how cruelly Scientology &quot;tech&quot; can be applied which means he can take a lot of credit for my decision to leave Scientology.

Byrnes was in the SO before he joined RealWorld and, for a time, worked at St. Hill, where he had an affair with a married woman. One of my oldest friends was the EO who was assigned to handle him on it, and she later told me he refused to do the ethics handling and instead told her he was leaving, which is what he did. He then joined RealWorld.

I spent nearly 5 years watching the guy. He did &quot;investigations&quot; without leaving his office. He picked the policies that supported his hidden aims (to take over the business), and his grasp of our product (accounting software) was minimal. He married Jessica in NH in 1984.

Luke is the son of Jessica and Charles Parselle, although it appears Luke&#039;s taken the Byrnes name. After RealWorld, Byrnes started a business called &quot;Competent Software&quot; in Clearwater, which has never been particularly successful although he&#039;d never admit that. His current home in Colorado is &quot;off the grid&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-magic-st-hill-is-highest-evers/#comment-77875">sheeplebane</a>.</p>
<p>My knowledge of Larry Byrnes goes back to 1982, when he joined the staff at RealWorld Corp. in New Hampshire, where I was also on staff. He was (foolishly, I thought) put in the position of President by the company&#8217;s founder, David Gale, who assumed the role of CEO. </p>
<p>Under Larry&#8217;s &#8220;leadership&#8221;, he led the effort to convert a secular business into a Scientology recruitment org. As VP Legal, it was my job to make the workplace clear of religious discrimination, and dealing with Byrnes on this point was dealing with insanity. I got more &#8220;wrong-indications / evals&#8221; from Byrnes than any other Scientologist. In fact, I owe him for showing me how cruelly Scientology &#8220;tech&#8221; can be applied which means he can take a lot of credit for my decision to leave Scientology.</p>
<p>Byrnes was in the SO before he joined RealWorld and, for a time, worked at St. Hill, where he had an affair with a married woman. One of my oldest friends was the EO who was assigned to handle him on it, and she later told me he refused to do the ethics handling and instead told her he was leaving, which is what he did. He then joined RealWorld.</p>
<p>I spent nearly 5 years watching the guy. He did &#8220;investigations&#8221; without leaving his office. He picked the policies that supported his hidden aims (to take over the business), and his grasp of our product (accounting software) was minimal. He married Jessica in NH in 1984.</p>
<p>Luke is the son of Jessica and Charles Parselle, although it appears Luke&#8217;s taken the Byrnes name. After RealWorld, Byrnes started a business called &#8220;Competent Software&#8221; in Clearwater, which has never been particularly successful although he&#8217;d never admit that. His current home in Colorado is &#8220;off the grid&#8221;.</p>
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