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		By: Dead men tell no tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead men tell no tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146994&quot;&gt;Dead men tell no tales Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

This would stop SO members from dropping the body in order to blow the SO  something that I admit once considered doing. Since even death is no escape you might as well learn to enjoy being the trash collector for a billion years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146994">Dead men tell no tales Bill Straass</a>.</p>
<p>This would stop SO members from dropping the body in order to blow the SO  something that I admit once considered doing. Since even death is no escape you might as well learn to enjoy being the trash collector for a billion years.</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead men tell no tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146651&quot;&gt;Valerie&lt;/a&gt;.

Secure your eternity in the Sea Org.  They will find a way soon so that when you die you don&#039; get your 21 year LOA.  Sorry all leaves are cancelled, when you drop the body we will put your thetan in storage intil it is needed. Oh, you are a fully-hatted groundskeeper. GOOD. As soon as we get another Ideal Org building we will get you out of storage and back to work. This could be done to eliminate blows too. Sort of like the Ghostbusters storage grid. Dave had better make sure there is no power failure. Otherwise he is going to get slimed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146651">Valerie</a>.</p>
<p>Secure your eternity in the Sea Org.  They will find a way soon so that when you die you don&#8217; get your 21 year LOA.  Sorry all leaves are cancelled, when you drop the body we will put your thetan in storage intil it is needed. Oh, you are a fully-hatted groundskeeper. GOOD. As soon as we get another Ideal Org building we will get you out of storage and back to work. This could be done to eliminate blows too. Sort of like the Ghostbusters storage grid. Dave had better make sure there is no power failure. Otherwise he is going to get slimed.</p>
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		By: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (Bill Straass)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (Bill Straass)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 06:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146626&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Forest Lawn says just about the same thing. &quot;Have a legacy worthy of you&quot;. What they are saying is that you should buy a gold-lined coffin.]]></description>
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<p>Forest Lawn says just about the same thing. &#8220;Have a legacy worthy of you&#8221;. What they are saying is that you should buy a gold-lined coffin.</p>
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		By: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (Bill Straass)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 06:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146668&quot;&gt;Snake Thompson&#039;s Ghost&lt;/a&gt;.

I have more than a mental picture of it. I have a wife who was held prisoner who was not going to even be allowed to go to my funeral. And I have a Fitness Board Issue that says &quot;YOU ARE TERMINATED&quot;. And you don&#039;t need to re-enlist until your billion years are up; if you don&#039;t come back on time you are AWOL and declared SP.]]></description>
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<p>I have more than a mental picture of it. I have a wife who was held prisoner who was not going to even be allowed to go to my funeral. And I have a Fitness Board Issue that says &#8220;YOU ARE TERMINATED&#8221;. And you don&#8217;t need to re-enlist until your billion years are up; if you don&#8217;t come back on time you are AWOL and declared SP.</p>
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		By: alcoboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alcoboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146606&quot;&gt;Robert Almblad&lt;/a&gt;.

We have to remember that both Dave and Jim Jones are psychotic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146606">Robert Almblad</a>.</p>
<p>We have to remember that both Dave and Jim Jones are psychotic.</p>
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		By: alcoboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146691&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, yeah. Jim and Tammy did do that.]]></description>
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<p>Well, yeah. Jim and Tammy did do that.</p>
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		By: chuckbeatty77		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuckbeatty77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2016 01:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;It&#039;s Time to:   Secure Your Eternity Again!&quot;     (I get the joke but there is a bigger joke if one has heard of and understands the largest ramifications of another human cosmological LONG ago idea called:

Eternal Return.

The whole universe recycles infinitely into all possible patterns.   (Including nearly perfect repeating patterns.)    

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s Time to:   Secure Your Eternity Again!&#8221;     (I get the joke but there is a bigger joke if one has heard of and understands the largest ramifications of another human cosmological LONG ago idea called:</p>
<p>Eternal Return.</p>
<p>The whole universe recycles infinitely into all possible patterns.   (Including nearly perfect repeating patterns.)    </p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return</a></p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146696&quot;&gt;MostEthicalPimp&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly &#039;Pimp.  As donating for auditing &#038; training gets you nothing valuable in return it falls under the IRS regs for donations rather than a business transaction.]]></description>
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<p>Exactly &#8216;Pimp.  As donating for auditing &amp; training gets you nothing valuable in return it falls under the IRS regs for donations rather than a business transaction.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 18:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146729&quot;&gt;tony-b&lt;/a&gt;.

tony-b thanks for the colour.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146729">tony-b</a>.</p>
<p>tony-b thanks for the colour.</p>
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		By: tony-b		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tony-b]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146701&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Just  a bit of color on the Reformation Mike W.  By then the abbeys and monasteries in England had vast holdings of rough rural land particularly in the hilly less populated parts of the country.  Much of this area had been given to them by the landed gentry because it was regarded as almost worthless but secured a place of honour with the catholic church. The best of this land was cultivated and made productive for growing grains etc. and the most barren parts were &quot;improved&quot; by  enclosures for sheep rearing.  This sustained a rural economy such as cloth making, stone quarrying and wood cutting.  At least the monks built hospitals, and provided accomodation and alms for the poor.  This co-existed with a manorial system of rich families who had the most fertile lands and also the &quot;commons&quot; where the ordinary people could graze their cattle or raise their ducks.  

Often villages or small market towns grew up around the monastery. Henry and the church came to blows and money was needed by the crown so he dissolved the monasteries and distributed the lands among the rich and powerful families that supported his cause.  It is common to see a monastery ruin with a big manor house (like an older less fanciful Saint Hill) built on the former home grounds of a monastery usually out of the stones the monks had quarried for the mother house. At the reformation the Church of England inherited the churches and cathedrals and the abbeys that were in towns some of which were by then rich cities.

Unfortunately COS is stuck in the acquisition phase and will no doubt skip the supporting of the poor and the community phase and go straight into the dissolution phase when it suits the powerful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/its-time-to-secure-your-eternity-again/#comment-146701">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Just  a bit of color on the Reformation Mike W.  By then the abbeys and monasteries in England had vast holdings of rough rural land particularly in the hilly less populated parts of the country.  Much of this area had been given to them by the landed gentry because it was regarded as almost worthless but secured a place of honour with the catholic church. The best of this land was cultivated and made productive for growing grains etc. and the most barren parts were &#8220;improved&#8221; by  enclosures for sheep rearing.  This sustained a rural economy such as cloth making, stone quarrying and wood cutting.  At least the monks built hospitals, and provided accomodation and alms for the poor.  This co-existed with a manorial system of rich families who had the most fertile lands and also the &#8220;commons&#8221; where the ordinary people could graze their cattle or raise their ducks.  </p>
<p>Often villages or small market towns grew up around the monastery. Henry and the church came to blows and money was needed by the crown so he dissolved the monasteries and distributed the lands among the rich and powerful families that supported his cause.  It is common to see a monastery ruin with a big manor house (like an older less fanciful Saint Hill) built on the former home grounds of a monastery usually out of the stones the monks had quarried for the mother house. At the reformation the Church of England inherited the churches and cathedrals and the abbeys that were in towns some of which were by then rich cities.</p>
<p>Unfortunately COS is stuck in the acquisition phase and will no doubt skip the supporting of the poor and the community phase and go straight into the dissolution phase when it suits the powerful.</p>
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