Tim, what a gut wrenching letter to Johnny. All good points in it. He is under fear as are all on OT VII: fear of not reaching spiritual enlightenment and freedom, fear of being denied eligibility for it, fear of Solo Nots being taken from him, fear of excommunication, fear of disconnection, I could go on and on. In “Hymn of Asia” LRH says that it is up to each one of us to get our spiritual salvation, so don’t waste this brief breath in eternity and work on it. To me that means you look and find where the real tech is being delivered and go there and work hard and make it happen for yourself. I wish Johnny luck. He’ll need it.

when I publicly left the Co$.

John is a primary non staff fundraiser for CCHR and has been for as long

as I’ve known him. He is fast on the uptake to reg for money.

John is a good man and a being of good will. Probably one of the few still left in that

criminal organization. He knows with certainty that his eternity and that of the universe

resides in the success of the CoS. He is one of the willingly blind to what is going on.

I breaks my heart.

He truly believes that any delivery outside the CoS is completely squirrel. His is deliberately not looking.

Before I left I had a very long conversation with John, face to face where I laid out what I was finding

out about tech violations and alterations, alterations of books and deletions of material within LRH books,

lies told by the CoS not just to the public, which are sometimes viewed as

acceptable, but significant lies told to parishioners and staff. I held back to the end on what I considered at the time to be the most damning lies told, the truth surrounding LRH’s passing.

I asked him at that point if he wanted to know the truth about that. What I had found through

the examination of LRH’s wills, the ME report, the toxicology report etc.

He said he didn’t want to know and told me why. He was actively on Solo NOTs and would have to tell them everything

and he knew this would jeopardize his elig to remain on the level.

He didn’t see the glaring outpoint of his statement or he accepted it as the way it is.

If he reads this I hope he sees it now, although this seems a dim possibility.

John, the only place your eternity is going to be secured is outside the control and fear used by your church to keep you there and towing the line.

The very fear you expressed to me when you asked me not to tell you what I had found. Is this how LRH would have responded?

An organization that controls through fear is doing nothing more than dramatizing the very material it purports to run out, but is instead, running it in.

John, where does all the money go? I know CCHR runs on a shoe string, but just look at all the money that does come in to the Cos. Where does it all go?

Who is responsible for the epidemically bad PR scene of the CoS? All the Sp’s? Really? That’s not what LRH says. Where did this false data

come from? When you have a fleeting moment of lookingness and then dodge from it, you have just looked in the right spot and rabbited.

Why are no flags raised when DM says he found lost tech? Really? Then when he puts back what he took out he’s deemed a hero?

You never responded to two questions I put to you. Why was Mary Sue’s dedication removed from A History of Man and where is your friend Heber?

How long are you going to believe the story that he’s fine and on a special project?

I have done a lot of Bridge since leaving. I was despondent about ever being able to do the training I wanted to do

or the Bridge actions I wanted to do while still in. You know this well, we discussed it many times. I have now done them and continue to

do more. The Cos was the one stopping me from pursuing my Bridge. It wasn’t free out here.

I had to work for it and work at it, but it was available from highly trained and dedicated people, without the arbitrary stops.

I didn’t have to redo the student hat or retread this and that or jump through some other hoops. I only had to work at it. Isn’t that the way it should be?

Since leaving John, I completed all 3 L’s. What a tremendous boost that is. I have also completed the NOTs rundowns. It took me more time than LRH to complete it but I kept at it every day until it was done. During that same time I started on the BC studying the material there.

What an amazing amount of data on the track LRH discovered and laid out not to mention flushing out the auditing tech more and more.

Since leaving the COS I have expanded as a being by leaps and bounds and have gotten the Bridge I wanted and continue to do so.

I am not in fear of loosing my eternity, quite the contrary, I am embracing it and it is before me, beckoning.

I don’t look over my shoulder because of what I read in books, magazines, newspapers, the dreaded internet or with whom I associate. Oh sure, there were some difficulties in digesting

some of what is found and some adjustment and viewpoint changes do occur. That is the process of truth seeking.

One last question John. After all we have spoken about over the years, what could I possibly say that would require you to disconnect from me that I haven’t already expressed?

If you tell yourself you are disconnecting to help me see the light and return to the fold, think again. Why on earth would I return when all I was seeking is now available to me outside the clutches of the CoS. Since this is the case, the only reason to disconnect is to protect the ever shrinking enclave of Cos parishioners from the truth, which I might expose to view. This is the bubble you keep yourself trapped in.

I still love you John and wish you and your better half all the best. Say hello to her, secretly, for me.

ARC

Tim-S

@ buttons72–there was no Reply button 🙂 under your entry so I am trying to answer you by replying to myself again. Hope that makes sense….I do want to answer you because I believe that you are coming at this from a caring and concerned point of view rather than a “Let’s diss on any and all of Hubbard’s stuff” point of view.

You are observant and I understand your concern, most definitely. But Steve Mango did this Purif during a time when the staff were no longer trained to CARE about what was happening to a parishioner no matter what service he was on. That’s one point where things went awry for him. He would not have been treated that way under my care.

A second point is that there is a lot of important information within the Purification material that you need to know cold if you are going to supervise people in there and run this type of a serious procedure. There is a lot that teaches you the difference between physical troubles and oveheating versus something being brought to the surface as a result of actual chemicals in the body triggering strange phenomena. It’s not a few things to read and off you go. It is an intense course of study not to be taken lightly.

The doctor you use also needs to be very educated about it and needs to be willing to see people who feel there is something physically wrong with them. These days this doctor liaison has been omitted much to the detriment of the parishioners. (Like Lisa MacPherson–a horrible and gross omission of taking the poor woman to a competent doctor immediately, and very much against the published rules of the church.)

There were times when someone was “running out” some drug phenomena and the place was closing for the night. The person I was supervising was in the middle of funny feelings, maybe even a hallucination, and they knew it was the way they felt after having taken some foreign substance. I used to get the keys to lock up later and sit there with them in the sauna until it was over for them, taking care of them physically (heat, water, food, etc.) so that they could get the bits of restimulative chemicals out of their bodies. Every time they were considerably brighter, happier, and would say things such as never realizing how badly the substances had effected them. Maybe it took half an hour extra, maybe a few hours. That was few and far between, but if it was needed I’d do it.

Seeing the people finish and be raving about their success with it made it completely worth it. Once the substances are gone they are gone–no relapsing happens unless they go and take lots more drugs or excessive alcohol again.

Sorry for getting so wordy here. but I hope it helps explain at least a little bit of the difference between doing it right and what is going on now in the C of $. I would gladly look over the experiences of those who were treated badly on the Purif to find the lack of care or expertise that caused them to feel bad or be thoroughly upset by the procedure.

And for this they pay something like $5,000 now, and when I ran it at my org it was about $1,000, or even around $800 with various membership discounts. Grrrr!

buttons72: “I’m honestly surprised that physically weaker people haven’t gotten dangerously ill or died from these forced sauna roastings.”

People have. We who follow the news about Narconon hear about it more often than you might think. There are several legal cases working their way through the courts that may involve just this as a cause of death or physical injury; one of them was filed just a few days ago.

You dont have to be a scientologist to enjoy a sauna. Everybody feels good after a sauna or steambath. When I have night out on the town, i eat a real spicy breakfast burrito, mix a bloody mary, and then take a nice sauna. Wa la, non scientology purif program. Works every time. And no niacin. Take that LRH.

In a bizarre way, I have incredible sympathy for Lou… and yes, I do deserve to be shouted down, here, possibly – I’m a never-in, but I have been vulnerable to a Christian cult when I was a teenager.

I think Lou is incredibly brainwashed. She has my sympathy. She’s a lifer, yes? And talk about someone who lives in a bubble!!! Good grief! I’ll bet she isn’t left alone for two seconds, ever, and her bed partner is COB! Can one even imagine that?! Ugh! What a bloody fate! This guy is why Shelly talked to the police after the Remini report and didn’t scream ‘HELP!’ – that’s how bad he is; imagine what he can do to a young lifer half his age! That psychopath, DM, has Lou isolated and warped her just as surely as he did it to Shelly, I’ll wager. There is no question that sociopathic personalities find each other, but it seems to me that Co$ turns people into sociopath-lites, at the least (Spaghetti’s email is case-in-point on the socio part).

Captain Tiny Boots is nearly at the end of his run, I hope, and I surely don’t hope that Lou goes with him when he flees with his hidden wealth. I hope he runs off to some far country in South America to seduce another set of women half his age, but remains in hiding. Woe unto those poor women though.. without a captive audience to soothe his psychopathy, what in the world will his outlet be?! I truly shudder to think. I mean, he matches his NECKTIES to ludicrously inappropriately grandiose stage settings!!! Where will Herr Dwarfenfurher find another adoration outlet when Co$ collapses?

It isn’t an independent study. The study is taking place at Severna Park, a Narconon facility in Maryland. http://www.drug-detox-rehab.org/stat…erna+Park.html

The co-investigator is Kathleen Kerr, director of Narconon Canada.

The study design seems quite bogus. Both the “experimental” and “control” group get the purif, and get tested before and after. The only difference is that the “experimental” group gets the purif right away, while the “control” group has to wait 4-6 weeks before they start the purif. They also exclude people with psychiatric conditions.

I can’t believe this got past peer review.

Espiando,

First of all, thank you for your service. My brother was a Desert Shield Vet among other campaigns. He has been deployed four times, I think, in 11 years. Unlike you, however, my brother was a drinker and he has some PTSD. He’s still in and possibly going to Egypt. If Co$ got hold of him, I can’t imagine what I’d do. I’d probably go to jail for something bad. It’s this sort of opportunistic stuff against vets that I can’t stand. My brother’s liver, for instance, probably can’t take niacin toxicity – never mind the baking session, nor the brain washing.

Unfuckingbelievable. How low will the cult sink? Some vets are vulnerable and the LAST think that they need to touch is Co$.

All the Best,
Kristi

PS… Thanks for telling us this, Mr. Rinder. This is precisely the stuff that we need to know about in the wog world.

This is a good read for those interested in effective life health through what science knows about detox.
It is free because it is life.

http://www.health-secrets.com/articles/lymphatic_system.htm