Gus Cox, thanks for the in depth explanation of “eternity” from a Scn perspective. Fascinating info and I understand now why the psychological break from corporate is so difficult for it’s members. There are so many facets to this complex guiding-belief system.

I get it now. “False face must hide what false heart doth know…” Pathological.

Thanks, guys!

And hearty “Hear Hear!” here! Life is good now 🙂

To expand on that a little – In Scientology, “Eternity” also has to do with the carrot they dangle in front of everybody: The ability to recall your past lives, the ability to remain a conscious being after your present body dies and to choose your next body (“go to the maternity ward and pick up a new one!”), and to live your next lifetime without forgetting this one. And on and on.

Wouldn’t that be freakin’ great?! I think so.

Scientology’s “Eternity” is immortality – fully aware of your past, and able to select your next lives. You wanna be born rich? In another country? Hell, even another planet, I suppose. You can do that if you want. That’s the carrot Scientology dangles with their OT levels, and that’s what members think they are going to lose if they leave or get declared suppressive.

I think that’s why Independent Scientology is a good stepping stone out of Corporate Scientology, even though I personally don’t participate in it. A person can leave the Cult without without feeling like he’s “sacrificing his eternity.” After all, there are more Class VIII and XII auditors outside the cult than inside, these days. So they can still practice Scientology, but without the IAS and all that other bullshit. And probably truer to standard Scn. than can be had in the Orgs now.

Of course I may be wrong about all that, but that’s how I see it anyways, as an Ex-Scientology kid.

Ah, yes. “Using policy to stop,” I think they call that 🙂 LOL.

I remember good ol’ Raffi at LA Org trying to get me to borrow money for a course, right after the “Money Seminar.” I was like, “I just did a whole seminar learning NOT to do that!” I refused. Raffi wasn’t happy.

Of course, none of that counts when it comes to giving money to a reg.

Yep, Rex Fowler sure matched the size of the donation he made with company funds.

“The focus of an eagle and the memory of a goldfish are perfect for this kind of work.”

Yeah, that caught my eye, too. That sums up exactly how the cult treats its members. Somebody could go broke buying gaudy IAS bowling trophies and find himself homeless and broke and 70 years old. He could go knock on the door of the Fort Harrison or CC Int and say, “I gave millions, but I have no place to stay. Think I could have a room for a while?”

“Who are you? Get out of here you DB. You’re responsible for the condition you’re in.”

Cult memory goes back no more than a week, to last Thursday at 2.

Thank you Jose for your reply to my question. I think I understand what you expressed. So Scn “eternity” is viewed as survival with positive or negative consequences based on decisions and environmental influences. That seems to put a lot of pressure on a being to be so performance driven versus an orthodox religion which believes you can’t “earn” eternity but it’s given by a Supreme Being as a gift of grace.

Thank you Mike Rinder for taking the time to respond to my question. Your blog is so insightful and smart. I support your efforts to educate others and admire your tenacity and spirit!