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		By: Peridot		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-417853&quot;&gt;Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

To Thomas: Sounds like you have summarized this correctly. It is a most bizarre practice and  done guided by policies laid out by founder L. Ron Hubbard: Scientology engages in what they call &quot;fair game.&quot; If you criticize us, we are not going gently into that good night, no. It&#039;s open season ON YOU.

I only learned of this policy and practice when I left ended my membership in the Church of Scientology. I don&#039;t think it is widely advertised within. Instead, any wide-scale battering-style PR attack the Church levels at someone is presented to members as based on facts and a proper investigation of the person. That not only warrants the smear campaign, it constitutes (to members) the C of S performing a useful public service of warning others. (Yup: Bizarre.)

Thomas, I agree with you: To the regular person (non current active member of the C of S), these attacks say far more about the Church of Scientology than about the targets of their attacks. And what it says is NOT GOOD.  

Ironically, such may be the C of S unwittingly performing an act of public service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-417853">Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>To Thomas: Sounds like you have summarized this correctly. It is a most bizarre practice and  done guided by policies laid out by founder L. Ron Hubbard: Scientology engages in what they call &#8220;fair game.&#8221; If you criticize us, we are not going gently into that good night, no. It&#8217;s open season ON YOU.</p>
<p>I only learned of this policy and practice when I left ended my membership in the Church of Scientology. I don&#8217;t think it is widely advertised within. Instead, any wide-scale battering-style PR attack the Church levels at someone is presented to members as based on facts and a proper investigation of the person. That not only warrants the smear campaign, it constitutes (to members) the C of S performing a useful public service of warning others. (Yup: Bizarre.)</p>
<p>Thomas, I agree with you: To the regular person (non current active member of the C of S), these attacks say far more about the Church of Scientology than about the targets of their attacks. And what it says is NOT GOOD.  </p>
<p>Ironically, such may be the C of S unwittingly performing an act of public service.</p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2021 08:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This smear campaign is truly bizarre. I have never seen anything quite like it. They have professional caricatures and nicknames. I realized when I saw the ad on youtube of a woman Taryn speaking against her father that it was s a highly orchestrated well-financed smear campaign. It was not the work of that one person.

This is not some feminist MeToo thing either - it&#039;s just meant to appear that way.

A few minutes of searching out of curiosity, and I saw that it had something to do with Scientology. Mike Rinder must have been a critic of them, in order to provoke this attack on him. To be honest, it tells me more about Scientology than the man they attack. It makes the Church of Scientology look bad.

 It&#039;s obviously meant to punish people who were critical of them and to scare others into silence. To be honest, I know very little about Scientology, though I heard they were litigious. But this goes too far. It&#039;s clearly defamatory - not just against Rinder, but several people, using the same format.

Valeska Paris, ValeskaParis.com
Marc Headley, WhoIsMarcHeadley.com
Mike Rinder, WhoIsMichaelRinder.com
Amy Scobee, WhoIsAmyScobee.com
Tom DeVocht, WhoIsTomDeVocht.com
Jeff Hawkins, WhoIsJeffHawkins.com
Aaron Smith-Levin, AaronSmithLevin.com
Michelle LeClair, MichelleLeClairPerfectlyClear.com

I&#039;m willing to bet that what all these people have in common is criticism of Scientology, so they&#039;re being smeared rather viciously. All these people have grounds for a defamation case, but as someone noted above, maybe the strategy is to tie them up in litigation for years? I don&#039;t know.

There is a discussion board on all this craziness here:
https://exscn2.net/threads/taryn-teutsch-justice4mom-theatre-of-the-absurd.1273/

I do know this: Youtube should not have taken these advertising dollars to do personal attacks. Where are their so-called &quot;community guidelines&quot;? They&#039;ll censor physicians who go up against Big Pharma, but they allow really nasty personal attack advertising?

All I can add is hang in there Mike. This too will pass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This smear campaign is truly bizarre. I have never seen anything quite like it. They have professional caricatures and nicknames. I realized when I saw the ad on youtube of a woman Taryn speaking against her father that it was s a highly orchestrated well-financed smear campaign. It was not the work of that one person.</p>
<p>This is not some feminist MeToo thing either &#8211; it&#8217;s just meant to appear that way.</p>
<p>A few minutes of searching out of curiosity, and I saw that it had something to do with Scientology. Mike Rinder must have been a critic of them, in order to provoke this attack on him. To be honest, it tells me more about Scientology than the man they attack. It makes the Church of Scientology look bad.</p>
<p> It&#8217;s obviously meant to punish people who were critical of them and to scare others into silence. To be honest, I know very little about Scientology, though I heard they were litigious. But this goes too far. It&#8217;s clearly defamatory &#8211; not just against Rinder, but several people, using the same format.</p>
<p>Valeska Paris, ValeskaParis.com<br />
Marc Headley, WhoIsMarcHeadley.com<br />
Mike Rinder, WhoIsMichaelRinder.com<br />
Amy Scobee, WhoIsAmyScobee.com<br />
Tom DeVocht, WhoIsTomDeVocht.com<br />
Jeff Hawkins, WhoIsJeffHawkins.com<br />
Aaron Smith-Levin, AaronSmithLevin.com<br />
Michelle LeClair, MichelleLeClairPerfectlyClear.com</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet that what all these people have in common is criticism of Scientology, so they&#8217;re being smeared rather viciously. All these people have grounds for a defamation case, but as someone noted above, maybe the strategy is to tie them up in litigation for years? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>There is a discussion board on all this craziness here:<br />
<a href="https://exscn2.net/threads/taryn-teutsch-justice4mom-theatre-of-the-absurd.1273/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://exscn2.net/threads/taryn-teutsch-justice4mom-theatre-of-the-absurd.1273/</a></p>
<p>I do know this: Youtube should not have taken these advertising dollars to do personal attacks. Where are their so-called &#8220;community guidelines&#8221;? They&#8217;ll censor physicians who go up against Big Pharma, but they allow really nasty personal attack advertising?</p>
<p>All I can add is hang in there Mike. This too will pass.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 17:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-338831&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua,  DM&#039;s got nothing to get twisted up in his knickers. Time after time, we are shown demonstrations of his not having ever &quot;grown a pair&quot;, mostly in his own self-aggrandizing PR pieces.  Will he ever learn?  No, as he&#039;s the POPE of scientology and can&#039;t change even if he felt a need/want to do so.

Not to mention, he&#039;s PTS to himself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-338831">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aqua,  DM&#8217;s got nothing to get twisted up in his knickers. Time after time, we are shown demonstrations of his not having ever &#8220;grown a pair&#8221;, mostly in his own self-aggrandizing PR pieces.  Will he ever learn?  No, as he&#8217;s the POPE of scientology and can&#8217;t change even if he felt a need/want to do so.</p>
<p>Not to mention, he&#8217;s PTS to himself.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 17:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ya&#039; gotta give her high marks on her &quot;steely gaze&quot; in that pic, there.  Tubby would be proud ....
— of her trying to destroy what little family the Sea Org afforded her.... AND her parents.  By this time, after studying his actions vs. his words, I&#039;m surprised he included the 2nd Dynamic in his utilitarianist calculations, as little as he supported his own over the decades.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya&#8217; gotta give her high marks on her &#8220;steely gaze&#8221; in that pic, there.  Tubby would be proud &#8230;.<br />
— of her trying to destroy what little family the Sea Org afforded her&#8230;. AND her parents.  By this time, after studying his actions vs. his words, I&#8217;m surprised he included the 2nd Dynamic in his utilitarianist calculations, as little as he supported his own over the decades.</p>
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		By: Taryn Teutsch &#038; Justice4Mom: Theatre of the Absurd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 13:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] chronicled the dishonesty and ridiculous claims of &#8220;abuse&#8221; plenty of times before, (&#8220;Justice4Mom&#8221; Advertising on Jezebel, Scientology&#8217;s Latest Lie About Me,  We Did It!, and Mike Rinder: &#8220;Lady Killer&#8221;) [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] chronicled the dishonesty and ridiculous claims of &#8220;abuse&#8221; plenty of times before, (&#8220;Justice4Mom&#8221; Advertising on Jezebel, Scientology&#8217;s Latest Lie About Me,  We Did It!, and Mike Rinder: &#8220;Lady Killer&#8221;) [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Chee Chalker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chee Chalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-338837&quot;&gt;Jefferson Hawkins&lt;/a&gt;.

Libel, slander, defamation of character.....
She should really reconsider her “mission” because her claims are “provable bullshit” to borrow a phrase.

Though that might be the goal - bait Mike into suing and then swallow him up in litigation

The funny thing is, people won’t just go to her links.  If they are truly interested, they will Google ‘Mike Rinder’. 
And, after watching some enjoyable ‘Judge Rinder’ clips, they will eventually make it to this site]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-338837">Jefferson Hawkins</a>.</p>
<p>Libel, slander, defamation of character&#8230;..<br />
She should really reconsider her “mission” because her claims are “provable bullshit” to borrow a phrase.</p>
<p>Though that might be the goal &#8211; bait Mike into suing and then swallow him up in litigation</p>
<p>The funny thing is, people won’t just go to her links.  If they are truly interested, they will Google ‘Mike Rinder’.<br />
And, after watching some enjoyable ‘Judge Rinder’ clips, they will eventually make it to this site</p>
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		By: Elaine Babcock		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 12:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I checked out some of the videos. I know they have to hurt. She sounds like a robot parroting the party line. I wouldn’t worry too much the view numbers on them are so low. One had only 14 views and most of them were probably her checking on the video herself. The commenting has been turned off so no one can dispute her lies.

When people cannot attack the person face to face they try every means possible to attack their character from far off. Remember you need to forgive her to help you, but you need not forget.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out some of the videos. I know they have to hurt. She sounds like a robot parroting the party line. I wouldn’t worry too much the view numbers on them are so low. One had only 14 views and most of them were probably her checking on the video herself. The commenting has been turned off so no one can dispute her lies.</p>
<p>When people cannot attack the person face to face they try every means possible to attack their character from far off. Remember you need to forgive her to help you, but you need not forget.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-338614&quot;&gt;One of those who see&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I agree, One of Those that See. Forgive them, because they are going to need it. I may forgive them before the make amends for what they do to my wife and I; but if I forgive them now they will just keep fucking people over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-338614">One of those who see</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I agree, One of Those that See. Forgive them, because they are going to need it. I may forgive them before the make amends for what they do to my wife and I; but if I forgive them now they will just keep fucking people over.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-338644&quot;&gt;jim rowles&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly. Scientology supposedly saves lives. Even if Mike had torn her arm clean off, I would have expected that by now it would have been handled. So they are denigrating the tech as well as lying though their teeth. Scn supposedly increases I Q and I believe it does. They must not believe in their own tech if they think that any Scnist is stupid enough to believe their lies.]]></description>
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<p>Exactly. Scientology supposedly saves lives. Even if Mike had torn her arm clean off, I would have expected that by now it would have been handled. So they are denigrating the tech as well as lying though their teeth. Scn supposedly increases I Q and I believe it does. They must not believe in their own tech if they think that any Scnist is stupid enough to believe their lies.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-338679&quot;&gt;NannyOgg&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds like a good idea, Nannyogg. But I imagine that that is what the Church does; demand their 1st Amendment rights while denying others of theirs. Mike may not want to lower himself to their level. 
      But, if he chose to do so and take legal action, I would support him all the way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/justice-4-mom-advertising-on-jezebel/#comment-338679">NannyOgg</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds like a good idea, Nannyogg. But I imagine that that is what the Church does; demand their 1st Amendment rights while denying others of theirs. Mike may not want to lower himself to their level.<br />
      But, if he chose to do so and take legal action, I would support him all the way.</p>
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