Great link, thanks.

In the mid to late 1980s also, there was a whole big booklet workbook, of this issue you linked to, made look neater, and it’s about 5/8ths of an inch thick workbook, and it was part of the materials you buy when you buy the modern NED Course Packs for your NED Course purchased books to go with doing the NED Course. You would buy this “Individual Track Map” workbook which had this issue and a few other things in the workbook, it was purple colored like the NED Course Pack, matching colors and design.

By having this Individual Track Map workbook as part of the NED Course, it was to entice people to do their own recording in the workbook, what long ago incidents they would discover when going back wholetrack into their own past lives, during their NED auditing.

It just never took off, obviously.

But that nice neat workbook that went with the NED Course materials, is still kicking around out there.

Ok found it https://stss.nl/stss-materials/English/Books%20Original%20PDF%20Scan%20OCR/Individual%20Track%20Map%201952.pdf

1 Trillion years ago … hahaha … anything material before 13.7 billion years ago is impossible per physics as that’s when the material universe began so no bodies before then possible. Immortal energy souls, sure (possible though unlikely) but bodies … nope.

It seems like scientology was so long ago now, but I don’t remember reading this at the time either. Could’ve saved myself heaps of trouble if I did though 🙁

My point was just to point out Hubbard’s idea is patently false, based on at least part of Christianity + Judaism’s history being independently verified by Archaeological + Historical research.

It’s one thing to believe your own choice/flavor of woo that’s unfalsifiable. This is what most religions/spiritual practises (including my own) do. It’s doesn’t prevent one from taking in actual verifiable sources of data if one wants. One maintains the brain plasticity of holding sometimes conflicting points of view. Studies in neuroscience show that skill as an ideal to have regardless of how one developed it.

It’s another thing to claim something as scientifically true when it’s been falsified by actual academic/scientific research (what Hubbard’s doing here). It actually prevents one from developing critical thinking skills, etc. That’s actively harmful!

“My way or highway” in other religions is also actively harmful for basically the same set of reasons (preventing plasticity, creating black/white thinking, preventing critical thinking, etc.)

A few of the Levant Archaeologists I know are even Atheists. Thinking in different modes to one’s primary way of thinking is healthy and should be encouraged. Comparative Religion is one subject for that, but so is History, most of the Social Sciences, Biology, etc.

Some beliefs are neutral and just aid one in developing plasticity, multimodal thinking, etc. Others are cultic and actively harmful to one’s (especially brain) health. It’s important to allow freedom of diversity in the former and curtail the latter, for the sake of that.

j Lee, I’m not defending Hubbard but the fact is that all organized religions throughout the millenia are and have been science fiction of one sort or another, and the people who were in charge of these religions made major decisions based wholly on financial considerations.

Don’t think I don’t believe in God. I do. Totally. IMO its impossible NOT to believe in God. To me, just observing life furnishes constant proof of what we call “God”.

But then “God” is just a name for some power or force outside of the physical universe. There have been many names for this power, many explanations, and they’ve all been made up and codified by humans. And what “God” is has inumerable explanations as well including the theory that there are many powers, many gods, each having dominion over certain activities.

But – and this is just me, my opinion – whether the philosophies are monotheistic or polytheistic, they’re just theories, and people made them up, and then these theories coalesced into philosophies, and then these philosophies crystalised into religions.

And please, if all of this this comes across as condescending or intolerant of others’ beliefs and practices, please don’t think that.
I’m not intolerant, honestly.

I even have my own brand of woo and I’m now going to make you all laugh at me because I find it very comforting, my own particular private woo.

When I’m really worried about something or puzzled, I throw coins to get Hexagrams from the I Ching. Yes I do this! Say what you will, it never gives me bad advice 🙂 And when I really concentrate, and put my mind in a place of wanting to know what is the best way, the right way to handle something, the correct all around way to tackle a problem, aside from what I WANT to do or WANT to have happen – when I put my mind in this “place” while asking a question and throwing the coins, I’l tell you, I get some amazing answers! And I feel comforted and strengthened!

So now you all know MY woo 🙂

“And no, I’m not a Christian.”

Neither am I, although I believe in theory in Christian principles. They’re lofty and to be aspired to and practiced when possible. They are beautiful and kind and unselfish and caring. Not always applicable, but certainly high minded.

But then, to be strictly speaking a “Christian”, its not enough to simply believe in and endeavor to practice Christian principles when possible. Oh, no!

To be a Christian one must believe in the magic, i.e, the Virgin Birth, Water Walking, feeding 5 thousand people with 5 fishes and 5 loaves of bread, dying on the cross and coming back to life – Christian magic. Oh, and being the Son of God.

Well, I’ve never believed ANY that.

Jesus, if he existed (SOMEBODY said all those things in the New Testament) if he existed, was a man, a human being, like all of us. He might even have been married. Who knows? And if he was, so what? He was a smart man, a brilliant person, an enlightened being, and very courageous IMHO. He said a lot of smart and true things which resonate with our spiritual natures. So what if he was an earthly man?

But that’s just me. And brother it is SO not Christianity!

I don’t believe in any Christian magic. I never have. And so, although raised a Christian, strictly speaking, I’m not – can’t be – because I don’t believe the woo.

Nor do I believe in any Jewish magic, by the way. Burning bush, parting of the Red Sea, Jonah in a whale’s stomach for 3 days and then coming out just fine, pillar of salt, talking snakes, etc., etc., and on and on.

So what is my point?

Just that people believe all kinds of woo, and so what? Let Scientologists believe Hubbard’s OT woo – Xenu and company, the exploding volcanos, etc. Let people believe that Christ just grew in Mary’s womb with no seed planted there by any man. Let anyone who wants or needs to believe that Jesus died on the cross and came back to life. I mean, Who cares, really? Not me. As long as people don’t get pushy about it, I don’t care. Yeah, OK, Moses commanded the waves and parted the Red Sea…OK…whatever belief sustains and gives comfort – fine! Doesn’t bother me so long as I’m not forced to believe it!

And then, every religion it would appear states unequivocally that THEIR woo is the ONLY woo that MUST without question be believed…or else! DIRE consequences of some kind or another for non belief. Because THEIRS is THE WAY, the ONLY way…it is all just so VERY boring, how so many of them INSIST upon this. Its “our way or the highway” to Heaven, or Everlasting Hellfire, or Another Dark Age…always, always, there’s just ONE way, ONE path, one TRUE path…or else _________________(Fill in the blank for Dire Consequence of Choice.)

Having said all of this, Comparative Religion is a fascinating field of study IMO from the standpoint of data comparison.

End of rant that this turned out to be 🙂

I once wrote abut it in an unpubished novel.

Illuminatus(!) By Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea. This three volume novel is a very loose adaptation of The Beatles movie Yellow Submarine which was written by a pair of hack writers on the staff of Playboy magazine who were clearly under the influence of Irish novelist James Joyce and some very serious drugs. As a result the authors had some very serious problems with the concepts of character, plot, brevity, as well as reality in general.

Hubtard knew Mein Kampf forwards and backwards

“…All this was inspired by the principle – which is quite true within itself – that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

— Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf vol. I, ch. X

LRH wasn’t kind.