Interesting the Stalin analogy, much like Scientologists photoshopped (before photoshop existed) pictures of LRH with his son and second wife to have them taken out (or was it his first? He was married three times), back in the day, Stalin removed Trotsky from images along side Lenin.

Thanks for the input Aquamarine. Glad to know I wasn’t the only one who suffered under bad supervisors.

The story I told was my first course room experience. On my last one (which ran for 2 years) had 2 supervisors and gladly one was nice and used good ARC. His cohort was a complete dole who I would often find dosing off even while standing. He was full time staff (the other was only part time) so I am sure he was very sleep deprived. I sometimes get up and walk by and nudge him awake.

After 2 years on the course (4-5 nights a week) one Wednesday evening while I was on the last section of the course the Sr C/S offered to twin up and get me through it all. This was quite unusual considering her position and training level but I accepted. As it turned out her intent was solely to get “a completion” (because the next day was Thurs 2 pm) and this became obvious when toward the end of the night and I hadn’t finished she told me to go to the examiner and attest and if I had any doubts or reservations I had completed just come to her and she’d work me through them whenever. I left that org forever.

Very glad you had some good experiences on course. Wish I had too, but nope. The truth is I only had marvelous and life changing wins and gains applying the tech to myself. And never in some stupid org.

Looks like we have a new troll! Welcome and say hello to FP. Unless he is in the hole and is unable to “communicate on all dynamics”.

Dans, the bible is about two different religions. The old Testament and New are SUPPOSED to have areas of contradiction. Come on, this is th grade level stuff.

I guess when Mike picks up the cans it rock slams so much the meter looks like it has a short circuit, LOL! Need some sec checking?

I had a few Supervisors like that, Glenn. They were awful. I also had some good ones who really cared and would stay in communication with affinity. The bad ones, though…ugh. They thought they were so…what’s the word…they were so righteous about KSW, so full of themselves, so obnoxious and almost pleased to make me wrong. I never learned anything in their courserooms. I’m sorry you experienced that, Glenn.

Here’s what I think: It depends on the situation.

I’ve diffused peoples’ anger by staying calm and flowing affinity a few times.

Sometimes, when someone is out of control and yelling and screaming, yelling and screaming back makes it worse and puts him or her totally over the edge.

And as far as punching someone out, well, first, I’m a woman and I don’t do that, and second, getting physical with someone only solves things in films, not in real life.

Instead, making them right where possible and maintaining your own calm, reasonable tone when making one’s can bring the person into a state of being able to discuss it, or at least to calm down enough to be set up to discuss it later.
The person feels safe, you’re not going to attack, etc. So this works.

But not always.

Sometimes you have to match fire with fire. Sometimes the person in front of you won’t listen UNLESS you yell and scream back at them for a while. Then they “respect” you. Of course, they’re idiots but sometimes its necessary to deal with idiots. And if you’re a man, you probably have to, every so often, deal with another man who will only “respect” someone who is ready, willing and able to punch their lights out.

So it depends on the situation. And the person. I’d say keep yourself in control use common sense and your instincts.

But of course, this doesn’t solve the problem of how to follow L.Ron Hubbard – too bad for the Bots trying to work this out 🙂 Thank Xenu I don’t have that problem!

Interesting! I’m going to have to read Korzybski now. Very curious.