My ex boyfriend is a Scientologist in South Africa. He said the weirdest thing to me :

He said “I think the ‘church’ has missed the boat. Instead of trying to save/run the world, they should be trying to fix it caused it’s f…ed.”

So much for the next great civilization. Even a staunch Scientologist things it needs fixing.

I really should have just summarized that to me the treatment is just inhuman and that the justice system that turns a blind eye to it is just shameful.

Chuck – That was a VERY interesting topic from Tony (and you) and thanks for posting it! It received 1225 following comments so it was also interesting to many other people and gives an insight into the “mind of Hubbard” if you want to call it that and from where he developed his “religion”. lol

The beginning of the comments section had many replies to you and your responses which were very interesting.

Jere, Remember how back in the 1970s even, there were Scientologists getting back into Hubbard’s pulp writings. Well, that all led up to one of the 1980s functions of Author Services Inc, to re-discover and publish ALL of Hubbard’s published pulp era stories, including all his sci fi stories.

Well, one of those stories is “One Was Stubborn” and when I read it one day while I was on staff at Author Services Inc at that time, around 1994, in my little office at ASI, I read for the first time a huge foreshadowing story by Hubbard, of a significant part of what Hubbard was trying to do with Scientology.

Truly, truly, ex Scientologists I urge strongly to read “One Was Stubborn” it’s online in full for free, and also on audio for free.

Tony Ortega does a breakdown of the story, but old ex Scientologists ought to read it and see what else traces to today’s Scientology along the lines of the theory of what humans in the story were able to achieve one by one, by doing the guru’s teachings.

https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/15/chuck-beatty-is-right-l-ron-hubbard-lofted-culty-cosmic-ideas-a-decade-before-dianetics/

What the humans in the story were able to achieve, is fiction, but it is similar to what Hubbard thought he’d be able to achieve for himself and the Scientologists, and of course the fiction does not become reality. Scientology fails where the fiction of Hubbard’s did “work.”

I do not know that anyone has seen it. I am assuming that my ex wife got it as she suddenly dropped out of comm in 2015 and I have not been able to find her.

I’m sure Jere, that’s what’s so tragic about those in who are trapped in that whirlpool, or quicksand. They don’t have the time or energy to even think about anything except maybe a shower then a few hours of sleep.

LRH then and now DM couldn’t care less as long as the money keeps coming in.

Right. They most resemble the ‘uniforms’ of parking lot attendants.

Doesn’t it appear the next day in “News of the World” or the “Enquirer”? Sorry, I’m not sure of the name and didn’t find it in my search. It’s a conspiracy-theorists’ tabloid generally displayed at the checkout counter

When you’re trapped in a whirlpool or quicksand, you need a strong connection to something outside of the trap to get out. That’s what I see the Aftermath Foundation being.