In reading the story of LHR and the Eight Dynamics it suddenly occurred to me that he created a hierarchical system which is not spiritual.

I presume he also didn’t see the irony of writing about negative behaviors and actions and that he continued to be engaged in those self same behaviors!

Also everything in those 8 Dynamics are in other systems I’ve seen around the world. They are certainly all parts of Astrology (that I use for psychological and spiritual growth of my clients).

I don’t believe that LHR would have been able to get away with getting his cult sanctioned by the IRS as a Church if this saga was only beginning in 2000.

Those of us who have never dabbled or even been involved with Scientology have done our own growth over the years.

I remember buying the book Dianetics, but I don’t remember when and I don’t remember reading it. I think it was just the thing that was “in” at the time. By the time I did get around to opening the first few pages, the writing was not attractive for my spirit to want to be attached too and i put it in a yard sale!

It’s very interesting to read that he only had to experiment once and something to work for him to decide that it would work again and again and the reasons for the experiment to have worked.

We also have a lot more choices in terms of dealing with what might be ailing us. Obviously the field of therapy and psychology has flourished and we also have EMDR and Tapping and NLP techniques along with psychological tests we can take such as Myers Briggs or DISC to inform us more about who we are. And of course for those that are metaphysical in nature and drawn to that arena we have a lot to choose from there as well.

As a Business Coach it’s not unusual to ask the client lots of questions (no “why” though), only who, what, when, where and how to move you forward. So some of the ideas around the e-meter are translatable into other industries. The difference is we are not looking for the “right” answer from the client that will satisfy us. We are looking for the “correct” answer for the client and that that feel within their being it is the “correct” answer and/or direction for them. They decide!

The more I read of Going Clear the more I see LHR for what he was; a cult leader, a charismatic cult leader and that’s what you have to be in order to get people to follow you for any length of time.

Off to eat and start on “Part II Hollywood.” Can’t wait to see the documentary next!

Holy crap. I would’ve had a heart attack and I’m not even a coulrophobe.

Thank you, Robert Almblad. You have a good point, it IS paid for by tax exempt dollars! Another reason to re-visit the tax exemption question, eh? Will their use of funds hold up under close scrutiny?

Exactly Statpush, their videos do come across as mean-spirited and nasty, and turn people against them, as they are really distasteful and make one question what kind of group would do this to ex-members. If they disagree with what ex-members have said, address those statements, don’t say rude things about the ex-members. I mean, really.

I understand that this is what LRH said to do, and perhaps it worked in the 50’s and 60’s (although it’s never been a good policy, effective maybe, but good, no) but it’s not going to work in today’s age of internet. Info is too readily available now. – T.J.

Once you could write to Ron, no matter your rank. Did you know he has tried to “come back” and keeps getting turned away at the front gate with the same r factor, he doesn’t have the rank to come back.

No boxes to send mail or have a line to anyone at Int. The Scientologists living off the Int base don’t have the rank to write to them.

That was my ex. I once asked her if she wanted to have sex and told me to CSW.

Mario Feninger.