Good point Valerie

I believe the somewhat old-fashioned terms “cad” and “bounder” apply to Elron quite well and should be brought back into usage. “Dog” is so over-used.

How they *smell*? Did he say we smell of antique Shalimar?

Yeah, and don’t you love it when one “terminal” threatens you with a declare for dev t-ing someone’s bridge with your bothersome condition and the next “terminal” says abortions are suppressive, so declare is imminent.
Sort of a special $cientology Sophie’s Choice.

I don’t think Shelly has much fight in her. I may be wrong, but unless she is taken away from the environment she’s currently in, she wouldn’t fight him if he divorced her IMO.

@balletlady, I had a friend who was APPALLED when I told her I had been divorced for 23 years before remarrying. She said she hoped she didn’t have to wait that long. She divorced in 2009. Now in 2018 after looking for love in all the wrong places – seriously wrong places, she has looked inside her heart and found out how to love herself.

She has learned how to love living alone and make her own decisions. She also thinks that perhaps she will never remarry and that’s not a bad thing.

I know people who are unwilling to be happy, they blame everyone else for their unappiness. They will die lonely and alone even in a crowd. Whatever is wired in their brain is not something you can fix.

We are lucky that we can regularly my husband’s parents in the nursing home even though mom gets tired of us after 15 minutes because that’s about as long as she can concentrate on a conversation. She’s not mean, just confused, she thinks we are keeping her from mealtime, even if we show up 10 minutes after she ate. I am glad we can sit with them for hours and tell them we love them when we leave.

There is a man in the same nursing home who no one visits. If he was my father, I would not visit him either. He is mean to me when I go there and I don’t even know him.

No he wrote the first rap song:
“They’re Coming to Take Me Away ho,ho, hee, hee, ha,ha
to the funny farm…… of SP’s”

For whatever reason Valerie, some people are totally unable to find happiness for themselves. I have a mother in law like that. She had a wonderful husband, has loving wonderful sons & happy and successful grandchildren ( we daughter in laws have bent over backwards for her as well)

She is miserable alone and miserable when her family visits her. She “wants visitors”….but then it’s an attitude of “you can go now” after maybe 15 minutes or so Visiting her gives her the opportunity to IMPRESS her neighbors & now those she lives with in the nursing home…visiting makes it look like someone loves her & cares. After hearing many nasty words & name calling & abusiveness from her, not many of us care to be around her any longer & visits are limited or none at all. She has no REAL friends at the nursing home, no one will sit with her a breakfast, lunch or dinner or have anything to do with her because she is nasty & demanding….these old folks are wise to her ways. She will die a bitter nasty woman….alone.

As far as building happiness for yourself alone, some stay in the marriage because they are scared to death of living alone on their own, or that they’d never “find someone else” to share a life with. Like my mother in law….she just can never be happy & there are many people like that living in the same nursing home….the ones who have family who don’t visit.

I always thought it was God awful that a family could “abandon” more or less their mother/father in a nursing home & NOT have a desire to visit them…..until we were placed in the same shoes as those “never or limited visit people”……life’s a bitch sometimes.