You should definitely take a look at LRH’s “affirmations”. They’re enlightening.

If they’re real, they provide a good insight into his thinking and being a victim of physical or sexual abuse or neglect may very well have done damage that he never got over.

I too knew several people who said the same. I tried questioning a couple of them about their ID and detailed knowledge an adult of that time period would have. No dice. They both clammed up when specific questions that only a real “returnee” were asked.

UTR, classic P.T. Barnum skills

HP: “It was my understanding the ‘old’ OTVlll WAS released, but then quickly retracted, due to outrage over Jesus being characterized as a pedophile, or some such.”

You’re talking about New OT VIII. I happen to know someone who did it soon after it was released in 1988. He was on the second voyage after the release and did the original version, but it was only delivered for a few months before it was changed to a different version. According to him, it wasn’t so much that people were having a problem with what was said about Jesus but that they were having a lot of trouble with the auditing on it. He feels the reason he himself did well was that he had done a lot of study of LRH materials and thus was well prepared.

This was in the Fort Harrison. I’m not 100% positive (40 years!) but I thought it was him – looked just like the photo where he’s behind the camera with LRH and the other cine crew.

Marildi, thanks for clarifying that point. I don’t have eidetic recall for most things, but I was pretty sure that I was remembering correctly what that old grade chart had written at its top. It was the source of much fantasizing and, for a time, everyone that I knew, both staff and public, were eagerly looking forward to achieving that state.

It was my understanding the “old” OTVlll WAS released, but then quickly retracted, due to outrage over Jesus being characterized as a pedophile, or some such.

Sorry DM was never a messenger on the ship.

One moment I remember was watching a group of messengers standing around in the FH lobby, all dressed in white, and looking very special.
Tonja Burden, a very attractive meesenger then, had a white parakeet on her shoulder. Next to her was a young Mark Yaeger and also a very short, surly looking teenager – DM.

For what it’s worth, Mike, I personally know several people who have recall of having been in Scientology in their previous life. Not that this proves anything, but here again there could be scientific studies done on the matter. And some day there might be. 😉

Edit,a plant for the LA Times…