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		By: Valerie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 20:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lois, I have finally had time to read all the installments.  Interesting that I was called a liar on ESMB when I said LRH told me David Miscavige was &quot;just a punk kid&quot;, yet you say for quite a while his nickname was kid.  

I was also called a liar and delusional when I said documents regarding me were destroyed yet you talk of destroying documents.  I think people refuse to admit that there was that much cloak and dagger going on back then.  The most important documents in the history of scientology were probably all destroyed IMHO as they were too incriminating.

There was a dark underbelly, but there have been very few people willing to say anything about what went on back then.  We were all sworn to secrecy and believed we were being honorable by keeping our mouths shut.  It wasn&#039;t exposed like it is these days, so people think pre-Miscavige was all sweetness and light.

Thank you for relating your memories.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lois, I have finally had time to read all the installments.  Interesting that I was called a liar on ESMB when I said LRH told me David Miscavige was &#8220;just a punk kid&#8221;, yet you say for quite a while his nickname was kid.  </p>
<p>I was also called a liar and delusional when I said documents regarding me were destroyed yet you talk of destroying documents.  I think people refuse to admit that there was that much cloak and dagger going on back then.  The most important documents in the history of scientology were probably all destroyed IMHO as they were too incriminating.</p>
<p>There was a dark underbelly, but there have been very few people willing to say anything about what went on back then.  We were all sworn to secrecy and believed we were being honorable by keeping our mouths shut.  It wasn&#8217;t exposed like it is these days, so people think pre-Miscavige was all sweetness and light.</p>
<p>Thank you for relating your memories.</p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 06:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152315&quot;&gt;Harpoona Frittata&lt;/a&gt;.

thank you all.  It&#039;s still so raw at times.  It&#039;s still new and I&#039;m still so closely connected.  In some ways I&#039;d like to just shuck all of my life and walk away so that I never have to hear of it again.  I&#039;m just learning how to deal and walk the line and grab some sanity back and figure out how to think and talk .... and how to forgive myself and not worry, how to move on....

When you still have to listen to family yammer on about it as if it&#039;s all real and true.

I feel like a ghost hiding under a sheet.

the sheet has a smiley face painted on and I nod the head ... all the while furiously wishing I could scream &quot;FOOL!&quot; and run away.

still learning how to ... deal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152315">Harpoona Frittata</a>.</p>
<p>thank you all.  It&#8217;s still so raw at times.  It&#8217;s still new and I&#8217;m still so closely connected.  In some ways I&#8217;d like to just shuck all of my life and walk away so that I never have to hear of it again.  I&#8217;m just learning how to deal and walk the line and grab some sanity back and figure out how to think and talk &#8230;. and how to forgive myself and not worry, how to move on&#8230;.</p>
<p>When you still have to listen to family yammer on about it as if it&#8217;s all real and true.</p>
<p>I feel like a ghost hiding under a sheet.</p>
<p>the sheet has a smiley face painted on and I nod the head &#8230; all the while furiously wishing I could scream &#8220;FOOL!&#8221; and run away.</p>
<p>still learning how to &#8230; deal.</p>
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		By: UTR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 02:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152240&quot;&gt;Lost My Son (Lowie)&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your reply, looking forward to the next installments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152240">Lost My Son (Lowie)</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply, looking forward to the next installments.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 22:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152305&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not a fan of seriousness.  But, as a former stand up comic, I&#039;m a HUGE fan of laughter!

&quot;Life is too important to take seriously.&quot;  Oscar Wilde]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152305">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of seriousness.  But, as a former stand up comic, I&#8217;m a HUGE fan of laughter!</p>
<p>&#8220;Life is too important to take seriously.&#8221;  Oscar Wilde</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 22:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152315&quot;&gt;Harpoona Frittata&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Celebrate your freedom and help others to regain their!&quot;  Truer words were never spoken, Harpoona!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152315">Harpoona Frittata</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Celebrate your freedom and help others to regain their!&#8221;  Truer words were never spoken, Harpoona!</p>
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		By: Harpoona Frittata		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harpoona Frittata]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 21:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152240&quot;&gt;Lost My Son (Lowie)&lt;/a&gt;.

Can&#039;t wait! I hope that you&#039;ll continue to include first-hand accounts from others who were in Elrons daily company; multiple perspectives on the same events serve both to corroborate and to elaborate individual accounts.

I&#039;m particularly interested in hearing more about the specific details of Elron&#039;s series of strokes and major health complaints, which may very well have marked a long steady decline in his cognitive abilities and emotional stability, long before his actual demise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152240">Lost My Son (Lowie)</a>.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait! I hope that you&#8217;ll continue to include first-hand accounts from others who were in Elrons daily company; multiple perspectives on the same events serve both to corroborate and to elaborate individual accounts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m particularly interested in hearing more about the specific details of Elron&#8217;s series of strokes and major health complaints, which may very well have marked a long steady decline in his cognitive abilities and emotional stability, long before his actual demise.</p>
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		By: Harpoona Frittata		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152315</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harpoona Frittata]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152268&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Here, here...almost everyone here feels as if they wasted some portion of their lives supporting a cult that, in reality. deserved to be destroyed. But living in the past, and staying stuck in regret and &quot;coulda, shoulda, woulda&quot; thought patterns only serves to waste more of one&#039;s precious remaining time on earth.

Celebrate your freedom and help others to regain theirs! Not only can something be done about it, but lots IS being done about it right now!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152268">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Here, here&#8230;almost everyone here feels as if they wasted some portion of their lives supporting a cult that, in reality. deserved to be destroyed. But living in the past, and staying stuck in regret and &#8220;coulda, shoulda, woulda&#8221; thought patterns only serves to waste more of one&#8217;s precious remaining time on earth.</p>
<p>Celebrate your freedom and help others to regain theirs! Not only can something be done about it, but lots IS being done about it right now!</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152298&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe one with a Johnson outboard motor powering it OSD.  A LOT of seriousness to overcome...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152298">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe one with a Johnson outboard motor powering it OSD.  A LOT of seriousness to overcome&#8230;</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152186&quot;&gt;Mephisto&lt;/a&gt;.

With his size, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s going to happen...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152186">Mephisto</a>.</p>
<p>With his size, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s going to happen&#8230;</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152167&quot;&gt;Mephisto&lt;/a&gt;.

I ate opus once.  Didn&#039;t really like it.  So i mused about it.  But, that gave me a headache.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-jory-reisdorf-story-part-4-1977/#comment-152167">Mephisto</a>.</p>
<p>I ate opus once.  Didn&#8217;t really like it.  So i mused about it.  But, that gave me a headache.</p>
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