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		By: Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-reisdorf-part-5-1978/#comment-153402&quot;&gt;marildi&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you TJ, Cindy and Mirildi. I have had no symptoms of HIV/AIDS for over 13 years. Other than being older, I am just as capable as I always was. In 2007 I redid the purif at a field group in Granite Hills (An SPD came out in 1996 re public with HIV that states that persons with HIV  cannot do the Purif at an org but must do it elsewhere. This is strange considering the same issue says that HIV is not transmitted by sweat. I just realized while writing this is that the reason can only be that they do not want homos in their sauna. (HIV is majorly transmitted through homosexual sex; next most likely is sharing needles while shooting up drugs. They know damn well that I am not a homo or a needle junkie but they don&#039;t care. But they don&#039;t want homos or what other names they are called in their sauna as they are homophobes. I have nothing against them.(I&#039;d better not if I want to live. The majority of the people working at the HIV research Clinic are homosexual.)
     Anyway, when I did the Purif I had to do the IQ test. I scored 150 on it and the person administering the test stated that he had never seen anyone finish the test in 20 minutes with such a high score instead of the 30 they are allowed. I actually did it in 15 minutes but looked over my answers for 5 minutes before turning it in.  This is not bad considering that the neurologist who ordered a CAT scan of my brain noted &quot; marked brain volume loss&quot; for my age.  Some people with big heads are as dumb as a post. I believe it has a lot to do with necessity level. In my opinion, one has to be smart to survive in the SO. For at least 10 years I used to tell people that the only way off of the ship was in a box. I guess they didn&#039;t get it so I had to demo it for them.(joke) No, the only thing I need now is a good job. I learned the hard way not to tell potential employers that I have/had AIDS. Someone would ask why I am no longer working on the ship and I told them the truth. They would say Ok, we will get back to you soon, and then you never hear from them again. Now that the story is all over the internet anyone can type my name into a search engine and up pops the whole story. I don&#039;t really care
Who knows the story. If it cost me a job, I&#039;m better off not working for them anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-reisdorf-part-5-1978/#comment-153402">marildi</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you TJ, Cindy and Mirildi. I have had no symptoms of HIV/AIDS for over 13 years. Other than being older, I am just as capable as I always was. In 2007 I redid the purif at a field group in Granite Hills (An SPD came out in 1996 re public with HIV that states that persons with HIV  cannot do the Purif at an org but must do it elsewhere. This is strange considering the same issue says that HIV is not transmitted by sweat. I just realized while writing this is that the reason can only be that they do not want homos in their sauna. (HIV is majorly transmitted through homosexual sex; next most likely is sharing needles while shooting up drugs. They know damn well that I am not a homo or a needle junkie but they don&#8217;t care. But they don&#8217;t want homos or what other names they are called in their sauna as they are homophobes. I have nothing against them.(I&#8217;d better not if I want to live. The majority of the people working at the HIV research Clinic are homosexual.)<br />
     Anyway, when I did the Purif I had to do the IQ test. I scored 150 on it and the person administering the test stated that he had never seen anyone finish the test in 20 minutes with such a high score instead of the 30 they are allowed. I actually did it in 15 minutes but looked over my answers for 5 minutes before turning it in.  This is not bad considering that the neurologist who ordered a CAT scan of my brain noted &#8221; marked brain volume loss&#8221; for my age.  Some people with big heads are as dumb as a post. I believe it has a lot to do with necessity level. In my opinion, one has to be smart to survive in the SO. For at least 10 years I used to tell people that the only way off of the ship was in a box. I guess they didn&#8217;t get it so I had to demo it for them.(joke) No, the only thing I need now is a good job. I learned the hard way not to tell potential employers that I have/had AIDS. Someone would ask why I am no longer working on the ship and I told them the truth. They would say Ok, we will get back to you soon, and then you never hear from them again. Now that the story is all over the internet anyone can type my name into a search engine and up pops the whole story. I don&#8217;t really care<br />
Who knows the story. If it cost me a job, I&#8217;m better off not working for them anyway.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2016 20:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-reisdorf-part-5-1978/#comment-153520&quot;&gt;T.J.&lt;/a&gt;.

Ditto that TJ]]></description>
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<p>Ditto that TJ</p>
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		By: Yossi		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another great story. Thank you for sharing]]></description>
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		By: T.J.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2016 16:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-reisdorf-part-5-1978/#comment-153337&quot;&gt;Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)&lt;/a&gt;.

Bill you seem like a really strong man. Every time you tell some of your story I am amazed at how you survived. That&#039;s how I see you, as really really strong. I hope your life is going better these days and the symptoms and problems are in check, sending best wishes to you. - T.J.]]></description>
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<p>Bill you seem like a really strong man. Every time you tell some of your story I am amazed at how you survived. That&#8217;s how I see you, as really really strong. I hope your life is going better these days and the symptoms and problems are in check, sending best wishes to you. &#8211; T.J.</p>
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		By: marildi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 17:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-reisdorf-part-5-1978/#comment-153336&quot;&gt;Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for telling your remarkable story, Bill.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks for telling your remarkable story, Bill.</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 08:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-reisdorf-part-5-1978/#comment-153342&quot;&gt;Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)&lt;/a&gt;.

Damn, now I spelled her name wrong.]]></description>
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<p>Damn, now I spelled her name wrong.</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 08:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-reisdorf-part-5-1978/#comment-153060&quot;&gt;chuckbeatty77&lt;/a&gt;.

Chuck, I personally think that if you are.going to invalidate Lowis&#039; case state (and mine) you should at least be able to remember her name.]]></description>
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<p>Chuck, I personally think that if you are.going to invalidate Lowis&#8217; case state (and mine) you should at least be able to remember her name.</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 07:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-reisdorf-part-5-1978/#comment-153196&quot;&gt;Gus Cox&lt;/a&gt;.

Me too. Although my short term memory is terrible, I vividly recall Lowie saying AEIOU in the movie which I have not.seen in 20 years. Though there was I time when I had AIDS when I could not have picked my own wife out of a lineup.]]></description>
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<p>Me too. Although my short term memory is terrible, I vividly recall Lowie saying AEIOU in the movie which I have not.seen in 20 years. Though there was I time when I had AIDS when I could not have picked my own wife out of a lineup.</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 07:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/lois-reisdorf-part-5-1978/#comment-153336&quot;&gt;Dead men tell no tales ( Bill Straass)&lt;/a&gt;.

I realized that I left an important part out of my comment. I got the HIV from blood transfusions in 1989 after I lost a massive amount of blood from a bleeding ulcer and due to to the fact that I am a hemophiliac. I had not had sex with anyone other than my wives in the 23 years I was in the SO.]]></description>
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<p>I realized that I left an important part out of my comment. I got the HIV from blood transfusions in 1989 after I lost a massive amount of blood from a bleeding ulcer and due to to the fact that I am a hemophiliac. I had not had sex with anyone other than my wives in the 23 years I was in the SO.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 07:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was also a patient of Dr Gene Denk and chiropractor James Keppler. I was sent to see Denk after I tested positive for HIV (no-one on the ship informed me that I had even been tested for HIV, let alone tested positive.). 
     I walked into Denk&#039;s office, he was sitting at his desk and his first words to me were &quot;They didn&#039;t tell you did they&quot;.  I said &quot;Tell me what? &quot; Denk told me that I needed to go to the AIDS clinic in LA and had his staff get me an appointment which was 5 weeks away.  That seemed to be a long time to wait considering my legs were going numb from neuropathy and I could not walk very far and I had just been diagnosed with a fatal disease. His nurse also drew some blood for a confirming test (known as a Western Blot.)  There was another Freewinds staff member who had been ordered to take me to see Denk. He had been in Sacramento seeing &quot;doctor&quot; Keppler (Keppler is not a licensed medical doctor) as he had a back problem which was only partly resolved before he had been ordered to pick me up to take me to see Denk. This was mid May of 02. Since Maiden Voyage was coming up he was concerned that he finish getting his back handled because he knew that he was likely to be recalled to the ship whether his back was fully handled or not due to the obscene amount of work that has to be done before the arrival of DM on the ship. He talked to the Chief Officer on the ship, who called Keppler, who told him to send us both back there . Keppler advised me not to take the HIV meds the real doctors would perscribe as they were &quot;worse than HIV&quot;. Meanwhile my wife and my former wife Sharron (now Weber COFSSO) were sent for HIV testing and both tested negative. Keppler was treating my HIV (actually it had progressed to AIDS years earlier) by first taking X-rays of my back, giving me a number of back adjustments and having physical therapists at his office working with me and giving me herbs. As I was living at Keppler&#039;s house and was still in the Sea Org at that point, I pretty much had to do as I was told. Meanwhile my wife had been told by the Captain that I was going to die and that no-one could do anything for me.Yet in conversations with Denk and the ship&#039;s doctor, I was told that they had good medications for HIV. Yet I would not receive any meds until I was all but dead. Both Denk and Keppler told me that they had known LRH, but gave few details. My impression was that they were both excellent in their fields, but Keppler was not a doctor (although his patients caled him doc) and his insistence that I not take medical drugs (backed up by the ship) very nearly cost me my life. I had dementia and no longer recognised my wife and my T-cell count had reached zero before I received any real medical treatment. When I finally got proper treatment I recovered fairly quickly. It was still a while before I recovered my motor abilities as I had had no sense of
 balance and could barely walk.
     I am a last lifetime Clear. This came up on a correction list in 86 and I was C/Sed for the CCRD.  I received the CCRD.It was going Ok;  We date located where and when I went clear and the auditor asked me what the process was I went clear on. He steered me to the answer with the meter which seemed like bullshit to me at the time &quot;Advanced Procedure&quot; . I worked in the NOTs HGC known as an AO. So was I telling the auditor that I went.clear on NOTS? I felt that the hell with it, I couldn&#039;t have gone Clear. It was just about like Lowie says happened to her. The folder went back to the C/S and then I was sent to the examiner to attest to Clear!
     Later I read the book Advanced Procedure and Axioms which says that people are cleared with Advanced Procedure. The book was published 3 months before the date at the same place that I had come up with on the Date/Locate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also a patient of Dr Gene Denk and chiropractor James Keppler. I was sent to see Denk after I tested positive for HIV (no-one on the ship informed me that I had even been tested for HIV, let alone tested positive.).<br />
     I walked into Denk&#8217;s office, he was sitting at his desk and his first words to me were &#8220;They didn&#8217;t tell you did they&#8221;.  I said &#8220;Tell me what? &#8221; Denk told me that I needed to go to the AIDS clinic in LA and had his staff get me an appointment which was 5 weeks away.  That seemed to be a long time to wait considering my legs were going numb from neuropathy and I could not walk very far and I had just been diagnosed with a fatal disease. His nurse also drew some blood for a confirming test (known as a Western Blot.)  There was another Freewinds staff member who had been ordered to take me to see Denk. He had been in Sacramento seeing &#8220;doctor&#8221; Keppler (Keppler is not a licensed medical doctor) as he had a back problem which was only partly resolved before he had been ordered to pick me up to take me to see Denk. This was mid May of 02. Since Maiden Voyage was coming up he was concerned that he finish getting his back handled because he knew that he was likely to be recalled to the ship whether his back was fully handled or not due to the obscene amount of work that has to be done before the arrival of DM on the ship. He talked to the Chief Officer on the ship, who called Keppler, who told him to send us both back there . Keppler advised me not to take the HIV meds the real doctors would perscribe as they were &#8220;worse than HIV&#8221;. Meanwhile my wife and my former wife Sharron (now Weber COFSSO) were sent for HIV testing and both tested negative. Keppler was treating my HIV (actually it had progressed to AIDS years earlier) by first taking X-rays of my back, giving me a number of back adjustments and having physical therapists at his office working with me and giving me herbs. As I was living at Keppler&#8217;s house and was still in the Sea Org at that point, I pretty much had to do as I was told. Meanwhile my wife had been told by the Captain that I was going to die and that no-one could do anything for me.Yet in conversations with Denk and the ship&#8217;s doctor, I was told that they had good medications for HIV. Yet I would not receive any meds until I was all but dead. Both Denk and Keppler told me that they had known LRH, but gave few details. My impression was that they were both excellent in their fields, but Keppler was not a doctor (although his patients caled him doc) and his insistence that I not take medical drugs (backed up by the ship) very nearly cost me my life. I had dementia and no longer recognised my wife and my T-cell count had reached zero before I received any real medical treatment. When I finally got proper treatment I recovered fairly quickly. It was still a while before I recovered my motor abilities as I had had no sense of<br />
 balance and could barely walk.<br />
     I am a last lifetime Clear. This came up on a correction list in 86 and I was C/Sed for the CCRD.  I received the CCRD.It was going Ok;  We date located where and when I went clear and the auditor asked me what the process was I went clear on. He steered me to the answer with the meter which seemed like bullshit to me at the time &#8220;Advanced Procedure&#8221; . I worked in the NOTs HGC known as an AO. So was I telling the auditor that I went.clear on NOTS? I felt that the hell with it, I couldn&#8217;t have gone Clear. It was just about like Lowie says happened to her. The folder went back to the C/S and then I was sent to the examiner to attest to Clear!<br />
     Later I read the book Advanced Procedure and Axioms which says that people are cleared with Advanced Procedure. The book was published 3 months before the date at the same place that I had come up with on the Date/Locate.</p>
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