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		By: Stephen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2019 12:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-281089&quot;&gt;Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

As a thinker Jane , and given the obvious remarkable connection You had with Him, do You think about why We as a species would be attracted to the theology of this or other belief systems ? Especially to the exclusion of Our base instinct to be connected emotionally to another ? I am wondering what the Church had to offer in His time of need ? It must be delivering if still there and You are not . It would answer so much about Us and ultimately what We want and need . Regards Stephen]]></description>
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<p>As a thinker Jane , and given the obvious remarkable connection You had with Him, do You think about why We as a species would be attracted to the theology of this or other belief systems ? Especially to the exclusion of Our base instinct to be connected emotionally to another ? I am wondering what the Church had to offer in His time of need ? It must be delivering if still there and You are not . It would answer so much about Us and ultimately what We want and need . Regards Stephen</p>
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		By: Stephen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2019 12:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-249879&quot;&gt;Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

ThankYou Jane . You shared something very close to Your Heart with Us . It was helpful to listen and try to understand. We a collectively share Your loss. Kind regards Stephen]]></description>
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<p>ThankYou Jane . You shared something very close to Your Heart with Us . It was helpful to listen and try to understand. We a collectively share Your loss. Kind regards Stephen</p>
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		By: Jane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-162599&quot;&gt;statpush&lt;/a&gt;.

Update Jane 29th June 2019

Yes I reached out after 3 months of no contact.
 After he said it didn&#039;t work for him staying in touch with me, he is trying to finish 0T7. He is 64 years old.

I guess i though he might just text back say hello ask how I&#039;ve been. Nothing. No text back.

I have realised how dangerous he is for anyone as he has lost all empathy or ability to feel anything. 

To think he is probably still looking on a dating site for a possible girlfriend. Maybe he isn&#039;t on them anymore. Maybe scientology has stopped him now.

I hope not for those like me who were just in the end used and played with. So awful so uncaring. 


We were in touch as you know from other posted 2 years. I must now have the strength and throw everything away he gave me. Not hold onto it cards and books.

 My nature is gentle sensitive and caring. I have no way to every understand why he chose the path he has and who he has become. 

His family I wonder how it is for them. They aren&#039;t in Scientology. They would walk on egg shells been around him. I guess he would just cut them off if they disagreed even with one aspect of Scientology. 

I&#039;m not been nasty or bitter just so very sad.]]></description>
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<p>Update Jane 29th June 2019</p>
<p>Yes I reached out after 3 months of no contact.<br />
 After he said it didn&#8217;t work for him staying in touch with me, he is trying to finish 0T7. He is 64 years old.</p>
<p>I guess i though he might just text back say hello ask how I&#8217;ve been. Nothing. No text back.</p>
<p>I have realised how dangerous he is for anyone as he has lost all empathy or ability to feel anything. </p>
<p>To think he is probably still looking on a dating site for a possible girlfriend. Maybe he isn&#8217;t on them anymore. Maybe scientology has stopped him now.</p>
<p>I hope not for those like me who were just in the end used and played with. So awful so uncaring. </p>
<p>We were in touch as you know from other posted 2 years. I must now have the strength and throw everything away he gave me. Not hold onto it cards and books.</p>
<p> My nature is gentle sensitive and caring. I have no way to every understand why he chose the path he has and who he has become. </p>
<p>His family I wonder how it is for them. They aren&#8217;t in Scientology. They would walk on egg shells been around him. I guess he would just cut them off if they disagreed even with one aspect of Scientology. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not been nasty or bitter just so very sad.</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 14:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-163084&quot;&gt;Lauren Whitfield Newman&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh yes indeed!

IMHO, this is the single most important and best thing going on TV. I hope it will run forever - at least until there is no more SCAM cult and no one can even remember the horror of this monstrous cult headed by this monstrous person except in a way that is needed to prevent this from ever happening again - like the way people need to remember The Holocaust!

Note that I originally wrote this and called him a &quot;man&quot; but I used the edit feature (Thank you so much for putting it back) and changed it from &quot;man&quot; to something more appropriate. 

Mike and Leah are two of the best heroes ever and the best thing about them is ... they are approachable. They do not have their heads in the sky or whatever that expression may  be. They are real people - regular people and I feel as if they are like my friends and neighbors and that they will talk to most everyone in a way as if they are our friends and neighbors - and especially ...... like our lilfeguards at the neighborhood swimming pools. 

Our children can all look up to Mike and Leah and be happy and thankful we have two such great friends and neighbors like them!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-163084">Lauren Whitfield Newman</a>.</p>
<p>Oh yes indeed!</p>
<p>IMHO, this is the single most important and best thing going on TV. I hope it will run forever &#8211; at least until there is no more SCAM cult and no one can even remember the horror of this monstrous cult headed by this monstrous person except in a way that is needed to prevent this from ever happening again &#8211; like the way people need to remember The Holocaust!</p>
<p>Note that I originally wrote this and called him a &#8220;man&#8221; but I used the edit feature (Thank you so much for putting it back) and changed it from &#8220;man&#8221; to something more appropriate. </p>
<p>Mike and Leah are two of the best heroes ever and the best thing about them is &#8230; they are approachable. They do not have their heads in the sky or whatever that expression may  be. They are real people &#8211; regular people and I feel as if they are like my friends and neighbors and that they will talk to most everyone in a way as if they are our friends and neighbors &#8211; and especially &#8230;&#8230; like our lilfeguards at the neighborhood swimming pools. </p>
<p>Our children can all look up to Mike and Leah and be happy and thankful we have two such great friends and neighbors like them!</p>
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		By: Jane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 01:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-162569&quot;&gt;T.J.&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree the work Mike RInder and Lee Remini are doing is so important. This site has helped me to have a voice as a &quot;non scientologist&quot;and to understand how my relationship with a Scientologist would ultimately be cut for good because Scientology said so.


 I kept getting reeled back in with him as he wanted my support and care. You see I cared very much for him. All my previous posted were true but he would keep coming back, I let him.


I was reeled in using phone and text due to distance. He knew what to say and when to say it. Sending symbols love and flowers everything you can imagine. Loved bomb the &quot;Scientology Way&quot; implemented by him when dealing with love interests-me

Yesterday the cold reality of Scientology, it&#039;s lack of care and compassion for anyone not in Scientology came to a conclusion.
 He is now OT7 and said the level he is on we can no longer stay in contact. He texted me from Clearwater.

My heart broke and my full realization of what Scientology is hit me hard. I was lucky it could have been worse. Distance saved me as said in previous posts from us ever developing  into a full blown relationship. 

I know I shouldn&#039;t have gone back when he needed me and engaged in conversation-caring loving and vunerable was me.

 I feel very much for those damaged and disillusioned people who put their love and trust into a &quot;Scientologist&quot;. 

His coldness his detachment I have no words to describe. The positive is that people like Mike RInder, Lee Remini, Tony Ortega and Chris Shelton are shinning a light on Scientology and so many are becoming more informed about the workings of the church and their hard line on human care, compassion and love.

 I forgive him as I dont know if he really knew the choices he would have in every area of his life would lessen the higher he climbed on the bridge but maybe he did. He will move further away from humaness now he is high on the bridge. OT8 next.

My pain will linger and will take time to heal.

 This time I keep walking and wont look back. He made his choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-162569">T.J.</a>.</p>
<p>I agree the work Mike RInder and Lee Remini are doing is so important. This site has helped me to have a voice as a &#8220;non scientologist&#8221;and to understand how my relationship with a Scientologist would ultimately be cut for good because Scientology said so.</p>
<p> I kept getting reeled back in with him as he wanted my support and care. You see I cared very much for him. All my previous posted were true but he would keep coming back, I let him.</p>
<p>I was reeled in using phone and text due to distance. He knew what to say and when to say it. Sending symbols love and flowers everything you can imagine. Loved bomb the &#8220;Scientology Way&#8221; implemented by him when dealing with love interests-me</p>
<p>Yesterday the cold reality of Scientology, it&#8217;s lack of care and compassion for anyone not in Scientology came to a conclusion.<br />
 He is now OT7 and said the level he is on we can no longer stay in contact. He texted me from Clearwater.</p>
<p>My heart broke and my full realization of what Scientology is hit me hard. I was lucky it could have been worse. Distance saved me as said in previous posts from us ever developing  into a full blown relationship. </p>
<p>I know I shouldn&#8217;t have gone back when he needed me and engaged in conversation-caring loving and vunerable was me.</p>
<p> I feel very much for those damaged and disillusioned people who put their love and trust into a &#8220;Scientologist&#8221;. </p>
<p>His coldness his detachment I have no words to describe. The positive is that people like Mike RInder, Lee Remini, Tony Ortega and Chris Shelton are shinning a light on Scientology and so many are becoming more informed about the workings of the church and their hard line on human care, compassion and love.</p>
<p> I forgive him as I dont know if he really knew the choices he would have in every area of his life would lessen the higher he climbed on the bridge but maybe he did. He will move further away from humaness now he is high on the bridge. OT8 next.</p>
<p>My pain will linger and will take time to heal.</p>
<p> This time I keep walking and wont look back. He made his choice.</p>
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		By: Jane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-249929&quot;&gt;petlover1948&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much for replying.  I  was fortunate I guess in the fact we lived in different states. They are so convinced and are so convincing  charming and seductive in the way they present Scientology.

I am educated however curious. He is high on the bridge so now his choices for a relationship are limited.  I knew in the end I couldn&#039;t join. He never asked but I knew just recently us had no chance to go anywhere unless I did. 

I wonder really if he wants a relationship- maybe only if its directly benefiting scientology.  

The boy who I glimpsed behind the man - fun and spontaneous appears forever lost. 

I want him to come with me in my mind but he isnt going to-maybe we will meet in another time and space.

 My imagination takes me there. I have a song about that. How you can do anything go anywhere- there are no rules there.

Yes I&#039;m caring expressive emotional, the irony of that.

 I felt him drawn in many ways to me because i have those traits he is suppressing and running away from himself Maybe you can&#039;t really take the human side our of someone or maybe you can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-249929">petlover1948</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for replying.  I  was fortunate I guess in the fact we lived in different states. They are so convinced and are so convincing  charming and seductive in the way they present Scientology.</p>
<p>I am educated however curious. He is high on the bridge so now his choices for a relationship are limited.  I knew in the end I couldn&#8217;t join. He never asked but I knew just recently us had no chance to go anywhere unless I did. </p>
<p>I wonder really if he wants a relationship- maybe only if its directly benefiting scientology.  </p>
<p>The boy who I glimpsed behind the man &#8211; fun and spontaneous appears forever lost. </p>
<p>I want him to come with me in my mind but he isnt going to-maybe we will meet in another time and space.</p>
<p> My imagination takes me there. I have a song about that. How you can do anything go anywhere- there are no rules there.</p>
<p>Yes I&#8217;m caring expressive emotional, the irony of that.</p>
<p> I felt him drawn in many ways to me because i have those traits he is suppressing and running away from himself Maybe you can&#8217;t really take the human side our of someone or maybe you can.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2019 00:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-242632&quot;&gt;Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Jane; As someone who was fooled; wronged &#038; almost destroyed by this cult through my 27 year relationship with the man I loved; bless you and thank G-d that you did not waste your life as I have wasted mine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-242632">Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Jane; As someone who was fooled; wronged &amp; almost destroyed by this cult through my 27 year relationship with the man I loved; bless you and thank G-d that you did not waste your life as I have wasted mine.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2019 00:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-222940&quot;&gt;Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

i dig this. May i recommend the book: &quot;Flunk; Start?&quot;  It is written by Sands Hall. She has a very similar experience; but she did join the Cult for some time]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-222940">Jane</a>.</p>
<p>i dig this. May i recommend the book: &#8220;Flunk; Start?&#8221;  It is written by Sands Hall. She has a very similar experience; but she did join the Cult for some time</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-247974&quot;&gt;Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Update 
I needed to cease communication altogether.

Yes scientologists not only focus on clearing the planet they clear their relationships too. I support my scientologist friend , I always will. 

The person he is inside that i got to know that was not the Scientology driven man was so likeable, funny, creative and an imagination to match. 

So sad and wrong  that Scientology teaches them to suppress caring and suppress emotion.

Us had such a interesting journey together -me as a non scientologist for nearly 2 years- but his lack of empathy and control he has over his emotions- been able to just switch them off has just been too much to bare.


 I have again ceased contact. My feeling is it&#039;s for good this time for me.

 He was such a lucky man having someone who supported him- the person but he is so heavily indoctinated-  so in control of his feelings and very little empathy or compassion. Yes glimpses but so suppressed buried deep down nearly lost altogether.


 Iam a writer and he has inspired many of my songs. I will miss him. 


I didn&#039;t shut the door but I need to move on and trust I will meet a man that will have those positive traits I found in my scientologist  but also has the capacity to care, love and be  compassionate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-247974">Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Update<br />
I needed to cease communication altogether.</p>
<p>Yes scientologists not only focus on clearing the planet they clear their relationships too. I support my scientologist friend , I always will. </p>
<p>The person he is inside that i got to know that was not the Scientology driven man was so likeable, funny, creative and an imagination to match. </p>
<p>So sad and wrong  that Scientology teaches them to suppress caring and suppress emotion.</p>
<p>Us had such a interesting journey together -me as a non scientologist for nearly 2 years- but his lack of empathy and control he has over his emotions- been able to just switch them off has just been too much to bare.</p>
<p> I have again ceased contact. My feeling is it&#8217;s for good this time for me.</p>
<p> He was such a lucky man having someone who supported him- the person but he is so heavily indoctinated-  so in control of his feelings and very little empathy or compassion. Yes glimpses but so suppressed buried deep down nearly lost altogether.</p>
<p> Iam a writer and he has inspired many of my songs. I will miss him. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t shut the door but I need to move on and trust I will meet a man that will have those positive traits I found in my scientologist  but also has the capacity to care, love and be  compassionate.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/love-and-compassion-in-scientology/#comment-242632&quot;&gt;Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

No happy ending just sadness and confusion. My feelings hardly really given much thought by the scientologist I cared for.

 I supported his journey. Distance ended up really saving me really as I had started to consider joining to give us a chance. Also his indifference really in wanting to get to know me  I&#039;m now moving on.]]></description>
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<p>No happy ending just sadness and confusion. My feelings hardly really given much thought by the scientologist I cared for.</p>
<p> I supported his journey. Distance ended up really saving me really as I had started to consider joining to give us a chance. Also his indifference really in wanting to get to know me  I&#8217;m now moving on.</p>
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