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		By: Eman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2022 11:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481367&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

10 years ago… already when in ASHO, part the AD Council we were paying over 100K for the shrine ! Must be more now !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481367">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>10 years ago… already when in ASHO, part the AD Council we were paying over 100K for the shrine ! Must be more now !</p>
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		By: tesseract		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481752</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2022 07:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481359&quot;&gt;Angry Gay Pope&lt;/a&gt;.

Your Deviant Holiness And Keeper Of The Flame Of The Righteous Anger,
methinks The Angry Shy Pope of The Coastal Citadel Of The Clear And Pure Waters (may war be upon Him) just wishes to comfortably accommodate all His Body Thetans, so as to not compel them to cause Him any discomfort as He engages in His most honorific confabulating about colossal horseshyte.

( ... Aight, I might be a lil overtired... :p )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481359">Angry Gay Pope</a>.</p>
<p>Your Deviant Holiness And Keeper Of The Flame Of The Righteous Anger,<br />
methinks The Angry Shy Pope of The Coastal Citadel Of The Clear And Pure Waters (may war be upon Him) just wishes to comfortably accommodate all His Body Thetans, so as to not compel them to cause Him any discomfort as He engages in His most honorific confabulating about colossal horseshyte.</p>
<p>( &#8230; Aight, I might be a lil overtired&#8230; :p )</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chucbeatty		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481601</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 10:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481436&quot;&gt;Linear13&lt;/a&gt;.

What the problem is, is Hubbard&#039;s options.   The final private writings, Hubbard&#039;s &quot;strategies&quot; you if you were at Int in the early 1980s, you remember the CMO Int &quot;EDs&quot; executive directive issues, which quoted the WDC ED 86 &quot;Int Strategies&quot; and those were the last LRH strategies for CMO Int.  For years in the mid 80s, the &quot;Int Strata&quot; and WDC ED 86 was the buzzword to make all Int strat planning align.  

LRH&#039;s final policies for the strategic planning, were directed at WDC and Exec Strata, for them to be continually writing their strategies for their sectors and points of business.

And then you use the &quot;Admin Scale&quot; review all the Hubbard writings and private final orders, for your sector and point of business, look at the long range stats, spot the ups and get those up periods &quot;evaled&quot; and &quot;whys&#039; found for the ups, avoid the down &quot;whys&quot; and &quot;whos&quot; and wha la your eval handling for your sector leads to your WDC member or Exec Strata member&#039;s current strategy.

The cult bureaucracy core policies I just mentioned, were literally how the cult leadership, which is decimated, Miscavige has basically not approved any strategies from the top two councils, WDC and Exec Strata, in years.

The admin training, if they actually do do it, would supposedly at least get some admin lower bureaucracy staff on the admin hierarchy stepladder to later become new WDC and Exec Strata strategic leaders of those councils, as Hubbard did intend, and doing their &quot;Strategic Planning&quot; policies leading, per what I mentioned above.

The cult bureaucracy does have the Hubbard layout for them.

It&#039;s a confined limited set of options.

So even if Exec Strata and CMO Int, who it&#039;s doubtful has any members today even with a tiniest of inkling disaffection with Miscavige, could only really wait for Miscavige to make some major missteps that are so obvious to them.

I have constantly over the last almost 20 years, tried to grade Miscavige against Hubbard&#039;s setup above.

What I see is him NOT posting the top two councils.

Shelly tried, and pissed off Miscavige so badly when she went ahead and did the proposed postings, and presented them to him, but he rejected her proposed postings for the top key WDC and Exec Strata positions, and was busted to CST/Archives.

Miscavige has used an earlier policy about not filling a post with a damaging exec, as his excuse to keep the top councils unmanned and from executing LRH&#039;s final strat planning policies which LRH wished WDC and Exec Strata members.

LRH would have had Miscavige&#039;s hide for that, since LRH in his years of micro managing simply never would left the top management positions be vacant.

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They don&#039;t have the brains or manpower to post into the top management positions, is Miscavige&#039;s excuse.

It is a justified one, but not the way Hubbard ran things.   Hubbard did spread out the authority to the top management councils WDC and Exec Strata in Hubbard&#039;s final years.

That&#039;s the major mistake of Miscavige.   Just posting the top councils, with the best that they have available, and that was Hubbard&#039;s final years model, despite that earlier policy that Miscavige is using as his justification for not posting the top councils.  

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It&#039;s all cult quackery bureaucracy upkeeping, and always backfires, due to the quackery being the core bottom problem of this Hubbard empire.

You just cannot, long range, sell sow&#039;s ears for silk purses, as the public finally wises up and sees all the sow&#039;s ears for what they are.

People drawn into Scientology see this eventually, whatever echelon or step in the quackery stepladder they advance to.   Just no OT super people are being produced who do miracles and supernatural good as Hubbard promises.  

Chuck Beatty
cult bureaucrat training dept mostly, in my 27 years in the dumb Hubbard quackery cult
75-to03]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481436">Linear13</a>.</p>
<p>What the problem is, is Hubbard&#8217;s options.   The final private writings, Hubbard&#8217;s &#8220;strategies&#8221; you if you were at Int in the early 1980s, you remember the CMO Int &#8220;EDs&#8221; executive directive issues, which quoted the WDC ED 86 &#8220;Int Strategies&#8221; and those were the last LRH strategies for CMO Int.  For years in the mid 80s, the &#8220;Int Strata&#8221; and WDC ED 86 was the buzzword to make all Int strat planning align.  </p>
<p>LRH&#8217;s final policies for the strategic planning, were directed at WDC and Exec Strata, for them to be continually writing their strategies for their sectors and points of business.</p>
<p>And then you use the &#8220;Admin Scale&#8221; review all the Hubbard writings and private final orders, for your sector and point of business, look at the long range stats, spot the ups and get those up periods &#8220;evaled&#8221; and &#8220;whys&#8217; found for the ups, avoid the down &#8220;whys&#8221; and &#8220;whos&#8221; and wha la your eval handling for your sector leads to your WDC member or Exec Strata member&#8217;s current strategy.</p>
<p>The cult bureaucracy core policies I just mentioned, were literally how the cult leadership, which is decimated, Miscavige has basically not approved any strategies from the top two councils, WDC and Exec Strata, in years.</p>
<p>The admin training, if they actually do do it, would supposedly at least get some admin lower bureaucracy staff on the admin hierarchy stepladder to later become new WDC and Exec Strata strategic leaders of those councils, as Hubbard did intend, and doing their &#8220;Strategic Planning&#8221; policies leading, per what I mentioned above.</p>
<p>The cult bureaucracy does have the Hubbard layout for them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a confined limited set of options.</p>
<p>So even if Exec Strata and CMO Int, who it&#8217;s doubtful has any members today even with a tiniest of inkling disaffection with Miscavige, could only really wait for Miscavige to make some major missteps that are so obvious to them.</p>
<p>I have constantly over the last almost 20 years, tried to grade Miscavige against Hubbard&#8217;s setup above.</p>
<p>What I see is him NOT posting the top two councils.</p>
<p>Shelly tried, and pissed off Miscavige so badly when she went ahead and did the proposed postings, and presented them to him, but he rejected her proposed postings for the top key WDC and Exec Strata positions, and was busted to CST/Archives.</p>
<p>Miscavige has used an earlier policy about not filling a post with a damaging exec, as his excuse to keep the top councils unmanned and from executing LRH&#8217;s final strat planning policies which LRH wished WDC and Exec Strata members.</p>
<p>LRH would have had Miscavige&#8217;s hide for that, since LRH in his years of micro managing simply never would left the top management positions be vacant.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t have the brains or manpower to post into the top management positions, is Miscavige&#8217;s excuse.</p>
<p>It is a justified one, but not the way Hubbard ran things.   Hubbard did spread out the authority to the top management councils WDC and Exec Strata in Hubbard&#8217;s final years.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the major mistake of Miscavige.   Just posting the top councils, with the best that they have available, and that was Hubbard&#8217;s final years model, despite that earlier policy that Miscavige is using as his justification for not posting the top councils.  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all cult quackery bureaucracy upkeeping, and always backfires, due to the quackery being the core bottom problem of this Hubbard empire.</p>
<p>You just cannot, long range, sell sow&#8217;s ears for silk purses, as the public finally wises up and sees all the sow&#8217;s ears for what they are.</p>
<p>People drawn into Scientology see this eventually, whatever echelon or step in the quackery stepladder they advance to.   Just no OT super people are being produced who do miracles and supernatural good as Hubbard promises.  </p>
<p>Chuck Beatty<br />
cult bureaucrat training dept mostly, in my 27 years in the dumb Hubbard quackery cult<br />
75-to03</p>
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		By: Linear13		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481436</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2022 10:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As we all know Miscavige is afraid of DEATH.  He, like Ron before him, wants to live forever.  Covid put him in a strange place.  He never took care of himself because deep down, although he doesn’t really practice Scientology, he believes Ron’s BS.  Cigarettes are good for you, the more pills you take the less they harm you (I know who could read this shite and believe it), booze is A-OK, languish in a sauna with toxic levels of vitamins if you want to clean it all out and if all else fails just jump off a building and come back in a new body.  

I still don’t know why those who are left don’t remove him.  The former Exec Strata.  Why don’t they do something?  Are they that afraid of this tyrant?  What about Diana Hubbard?  The last Hubbard IN and she’s probably guarded nearly as much or more than Shelley.  Why don’t these people get together and oust the beast.  Look how many people have left just since Covid (and oh how I hope some tell their stories).  People are sick of him but like the Kim family they give copious adoration to him in fear of his taking notice of their measly existence.  No one wants to be Miscavige’s new best friend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we all know Miscavige is afraid of DEATH.  He, like Ron before him, wants to live forever.  Covid put him in a strange place.  He never took care of himself because deep down, although he doesn’t really practice Scientology, he believes Ron’s BS.  Cigarettes are good for you, the more pills you take the less they harm you (I know who could read this shite and believe it), booze is A-OK, languish in a sauna with toxic levels of vitamins if you want to clean it all out and if all else fails just jump off a building and come back in a new body.  </p>
<p>I still don’t know why those who are left don’t remove him.  The former Exec Strata.  Why don’t they do something?  Are they that afraid of this tyrant?  What about Diana Hubbard?  The last Hubbard IN and she’s probably guarded nearly as much or more than Shelley.  Why don’t these people get together and oust the beast.  Look how many people have left just since Covid (and oh how I hope some tell their stories).  People are sick of him but like the Kim family they give copious adoration to him in fear of his taking notice of their measly existence.  No one wants to be Miscavige’s new best friend.</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481367</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2022 22:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These events used to cost the organizations a lot.  The shrine would be divided up amongst the PAC orgs who all paid CLO event unit bank account.  AOs&#039; share could be 40-60,000.

Maybe now DM would rather have the event money for his legal team.
LRH does say never to spend reserves.  His legal team has got to be costing a bundle.

And then there is the problem with covering property taxes on the 20 or so failing ideal orgs...

What a mess.
Thank you DM.
Glad you are such a maniac few want to work for you.
Please continue.
ML]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These events used to cost the organizations a lot.  The shrine would be divided up amongst the PAC orgs who all paid CLO event unit bank account.  AOs&#8217; share could be 40-60,000.</p>
<p>Maybe now DM would rather have the event money for his legal team.<br />
LRH does say never to spend reserves.  His legal team has got to be costing a bundle.</p>
<p>And then there is the problem with covering property taxes on the 20 or so failing ideal orgs&#8230;</p>
<p>What a mess.<br />
Thank you DM.<br />
Glad you are such a maniac few want to work for you.<br />
Please continue.<br />
ML</p>
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		By: Angry Gay Pope		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2022 20:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Shrine Auditorium is a very impressive venue. Huge. Too huge. Not only is COB afraid of process servers he is also probably afraid he cannot fill seats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Shrine Auditorium is a very impressive venue. Huge. Too huge. Not only is COB afraid of process servers he is also probably afraid he cannot fill seats.</p>
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		By: Cre8tivewmn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2022 19:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My first reaction was “ if they’re reaching new heights, they must plan to blow the Freewind’s up!”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction was “ if they’re reaching new heights, they must plan to blow the Freewind’s up!”</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2022 19:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481312&quot;&gt;Jolly Olly Ogilvie&lt;/a&gt;.

Little Saint James Island (Pedophile Island) may be available. Oh wait, it&#039;s United States territory. Never mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481312">Jolly Olly Ogilvie</a>.</p>
<p>Little Saint James Island (Pedophile Island) may be available. Oh wait, it&#8217;s United States territory. Never mind.</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2022 18:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481326&quot;&gt;RoseMarie&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, you&#039;re not wrong!!
Worst, degrading experience I&#039;ve ever had go through was being a minion at Scientology events. I remember those horrible dark looks of desperation in other staff members when your eyes met. Good place to practice your, &quot;hiding in plain sight&quot; skills I suppose - geezers events sucked!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/maiden-voyage/#comment-481326">RoseMarie</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, you&#8217;re not wrong!!<br />
Worst, degrading experience I&#8217;ve ever had go through was being a minion at Scientology events. I remember those horrible dark looks of desperation in other staff members when your eyes met. Good place to practice your, &#8220;hiding in plain sight&#8221; skills I suppose &#8211; geezers events sucked!!!!!!</p>
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		By: RoseMarie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2022 16:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’d be really glad if I was staff. Those events suck!  Pressure. Crush regging. No enjoyment whatsoever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d be really glad if I was staff. Those events suck!  Pressure. Crush regging. No enjoyment whatsoever.</p>
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