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		By: Rose Davis		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am learning more and more about Marty  as I look into what he did and who he was/is as a person.It seems awful weird what he did so suddenly. He helped people leave and then turned his backs on them making these pathetic videos with Scientology. Nothing he says in the videos makes sense. He is contradicting everything that he said and done. I don&#039;t understand how he can do that without guilt. Though I am not sure if he feels the guilt or not of doing this to the people that loved and trusted him. I wouldn&#039;t be able to live with myself if I where him.If I am being honest I am seeing similarities between Marty and ASL. Both turning on the ones who loved them. Lying about the people they once where friends with etc. (Although I am seeing far more damage in what ASL been doing than with Marty.) I find it odd that they both turned on the people the said they loved and the people who loved them.

I find it honorable that you said that you don&#039;t care what Marty says about you but when it&#039;s others the is talking about you do. It shows how selfless you tend to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am learning more and more about Marty  as I look into what he did and who he was/is as a person.It seems awful weird what he did so suddenly. He helped people leave and then turned his backs on them making these pathetic videos with Scientology. Nothing he says in the videos makes sense. He is contradicting everything that he said and done. I don&#8217;t understand how he can do that without guilt. Though I am not sure if he feels the guilt or not of doing this to the people that loved and trusted him. I wouldn&#8217;t be able to live with myself if I where him.If I am being honest I am seeing similarities between Marty and ASL. Both turning on the ones who loved them. Lying about the people they once where friends with etc. (Although I am seeing far more damage in what ASL been doing than with Marty.) I find it odd that they both turned on the people the said they loved and the people who loved them.</p>
<p>I find it honorable that you said that you don&#8217;t care what Marty says about you but when it&#8217;s others the is talking about you do. It shows how selfless you tend to be.</p>
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		By: Cat Daddy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 22:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Pain, but alsoo the forgiveness, and the love. And I am an Atheïst for Christ&#039;s sake, Hey Mike I think you know me I am the crazy Guy that brings people back to normality. iI have a  one way com with Marty on his blog. And I think because Marty think I am not a threath and I am not a threat. I am just a person with a diagnosis of Asperger (Hello Marthy Tathbun) and ADHD (hello me)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99-CeOxemS4

Miscavige and the media]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pain, but alsoo the forgiveness, and the love. And I am an Atheïst for Christ&#8217;s sake, Hey Mike I think you know me I am the crazy Guy that brings people back to normality. iI have a  one way com with Marty on his blog. And I think because Marty think I am not a threath and I am not a threat. I am just a person with a diagnosis of Asperger (Hello Marthy Tathbun) and ADHD (hello me)</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99-CeOxemS4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99-CeOxemS4</a></p>
<p>Miscavige and the media</p>
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		By: Cat Daddy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 22:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know Mike I know, It pierced my heart too]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Mike I know, It pierced my heart too</p>
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		By: Philip Everett		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 22:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-178952&quot;&gt;Bob Waldmann&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL----Scientology --ya ever deal with the finance police--I did and that put a fork in it for me --Philip Everett (aka Mike)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-178952">Bob Waldmann</a>.</p>
<p>LOL&#8212;-Scientology &#8211;ya ever deal with the finance police&#8211;I did and that put a fork in it for me &#8211;Philip Everett (aka Mike)</p>
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		By: Linda Olsen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2022 14:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-444694&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Completely agree with you.  In fact, I think that My Scientology Movie actually documents Marty&#039;s breaking point.  It seems like he was contemplating something drastic at that point, and he knew he had to do something different

Marty is a complex, haunted damaged man.  In a way, he&#039;s very much like Miscavige.  The things he was fighting to expose are the things he was fighting inside himself as well.  Maybe this is true to a lesser degree for all those coming out of the cult.

I hope those betrayed by him can forgive him and move forward.  And I hope Marty himself finds true peace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-444694">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Completely agree with you.  In fact, I think that My Scientology Movie actually documents Marty&#8217;s breaking point.  It seems like he was contemplating something drastic at that point, and he knew he had to do something different</p>
<p>Marty is a complex, haunted damaged man.  In a way, he&#8217;s very much like Miscavige.  The things he was fighting to expose are the things he was fighting inside himself as well.  Maybe this is true to a lesser degree for all those coming out of the cult.</p>
<p>I hope those betrayed by him can forgive him and move forward.  And I hope Marty himself finds true peace.</p>
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		By: Linda Olsen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2022 16:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-308060&quot;&gt;Our 10th Anniversary&lt;/a&gt;.

I admit that Tommy Davis used to be my favorite in the cast of scientology characters to speculate about when he did his withdrawal from the organization and as being it&#039;s favorite spokesmodel.

Now that position is occupied by Marty Rathbun.  I&#039;ve spent much time looking at what he said before and what he says now. Everything lives on on the internet.

He is worthy of pity and perhaps compassion, yet another casualty of Scientology.  His betrayal first of Scientology as an organization (worthy of betrayal) and then of his own beliefs and friends.

I think of him like a POW.  Some come back to live lives reintegrated into society as best they can.  Some never clear the hurdle.  Some identify with their captors.  Much of it is self-protective behavior.   Marty is a victim of trauma and no dollar amount will appease his demons or buy him peace.  What is sad is that he is a tortured soul who has betrayed his true friends for pieces of silver.

I won&#039;t be surprised if he does another major flip flop or decides just to leave it all behind.
Mike, sorry (one of your best friends) actively betrayed you and for money and financial security.  He traded one prison of belief for another, perhaps because it was so familiar.

Keep up the good work, Mike.  It will bear fruit and I wish you peace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-308060">Our 10th Anniversary</a>.</p>
<p>I admit that Tommy Davis used to be my favorite in the cast of scientology characters to speculate about when he did his withdrawal from the organization and as being it&#8217;s favorite spokesmodel.</p>
<p>Now that position is occupied by Marty Rathbun.  I&#8217;ve spent much time looking at what he said before and what he says now. Everything lives on on the internet.</p>
<p>He is worthy of pity and perhaps compassion, yet another casualty of Scientology.  His betrayal first of Scientology as an organization (worthy of betrayal) and then of his own beliefs and friends.</p>
<p>I think of him like a POW.  Some come back to live lives reintegrated into society as best they can.  Some never clear the hurdle.  Some identify with their captors.  Much of it is self-protective behavior.   Marty is a victim of trauma and no dollar amount will appease his demons or buy him peace.  What is sad is that he is a tortured soul who has betrayed his true friends for pieces of silver.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be surprised if he does another major flip flop or decides just to leave it all behind.<br />
Mike, sorry (one of your best friends) actively betrayed you and for money and financial security.  He traded one prison of belief for another, perhaps because it was so familiar.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work, Mike.  It will bear fruit and I wish you peace.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-180940&quot;&gt;Chemel1&lt;/a&gt;.

Chemel1, YES it was obvious to me he was reading a text written by someone else (Davey) from the get go.  It was like he was a prisoner of war being made to read a test in front of cameras, &quot;We are well treated here.  Our captors are nice.&quot;  And the fact that Marty has systematically attacked each and every one of his friends and former colleagues and big name anti Scns tells me Davey is behind all this.  Davey wants a scorched earth policy regarding anyone who wants to come back in the church, or whom they have been able to pay or blackmail into speaking for them.  The first thing Davey wants is for you to go on public lines and trash the people who are exposing Davey. 

 When that public Scn woman left Scn and lost her two kids to disconnection and then she was shot by Arnie Lerma, (RIP),  when she couldn&#039;t make it on her own, she went back to the church to try to get her kids back so that they could help her, she said the first thing the church wanted her to do was give names of all the people who were behind the attacks on the church.  Davey told her to name names and then go publicly trash those people.  I know this because when she changed sides yet again, she told us all this when she apologized.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-180940">Chemel1</a>.</p>
<p>Chemel1, YES it was obvious to me he was reading a text written by someone else (Davey) from the get go.  It was like he was a prisoner of war being made to read a test in front of cameras, &#8220;We are well treated here.  Our captors are nice.&#8221;  And the fact that Marty has systematically attacked each and every one of his friends and former colleagues and big name anti Scns tells me Davey is behind all this.  Davey wants a scorched earth policy regarding anyone who wants to come back in the church, or whom they have been able to pay or blackmail into speaking for them.  The first thing Davey wants is for you to go on public lines and trash the people who are exposing Davey. </p>
<p> When that public Scn woman left Scn and lost her two kids to disconnection and then she was shot by Arnie Lerma, (RIP),  when she couldn&#8217;t make it on her own, she went back to the church to try to get her kids back so that they could help her, she said the first thing the church wanted her to do was give names of all the people who were behind the attacks on the church.  Davey told her to name names and then go publicly trash those people.  I know this because when she changed sides yet again, she told us all this when she apologized.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-218086&quot;&gt;Summer&lt;/a&gt;.

What you say, &quot;wish hi the best from afar&quot; is good advice, Summer.  Interestingly, LRH said, &quot;that which you resist or fight, you become.&quot;  Marty certainly did resist and fight Scn and Davey for a long time and now look at him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-218086">Summer</a>.</p>
<p>What you say, &#8220;wish hi the best from afar&#8221; is good advice, Summer.  Interestingly, LRH said, &#8220;that which you resist or fight, you become.&#8221;  Marty certainly did resist and fight Scn and Davey for a long time and now look at him.</p>
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		By: Cindy Temps		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-221851&quot;&gt;Julia Madene&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Julia!  And I remember Marty saying on his blog that he could never be bought off!  I guess the old adage, &quot;never say never&quot; applies to Marty just like the rest of us.

I&quot;m so glad that Mike has never allowed himself to be bought off.  Thank you, Mike and Leah for continuing the fight and shedding light on the evil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-221851">Julia Madene</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Julia!  And I remember Marty saying on his blog that he could never be bought off!  I guess the old adage, &#8220;never say never&#8221; applies to Marty just like the rest of us.</p>
<p>I&#8221;m so glad that Mike has never allowed himself to be bought off.  Thank you, Mike and Leah for continuing the fight and shedding light on the evil.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-263615&quot;&gt;Kathalean&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent assessment of Marty and things.  I think you&#039;re probably right that he wanted to be the big cheese and the voice of Ex Scn, and when Aftermath came along he was no longer that.  The media then turned to interview Leah and Mike etc.  

When watching the Theroux show where Marty is showing how to do TR&#039;s and Marty and Theroux step out for a break, that is when the Scn Squirrel Busters come up (they&#039;d been laying in wait for this moment, I suspect) and they made sure to mention Marty&#039;s newly adopted son and imply that they might go public on some dirt they learned about the adoption or something.  That is when Marty lost it, blew up,  and got all upset and pissy and told Theroux to fuck off or something.  Theroux didn&#039;t lose his cool and gave Marty a  kind of humorous ack to Marty&#039;s blow up.  

I think the Squirrel Busters &quot;missed a withhold&quot; on Marty, to use Scn terms.  They missed that maybe there was something amiss about how he came to get this adopted baby.  It clearly had something to do with the kid.  And Marty did his about face not long after that, EVEN THOUGH HE AND MOSEY WERE WINNING THE LAWSUIT and they had Davey on the ropes.  I think Davey offered Marty both  a carrot and a stick, as in we&#039;ll give you all this money and college trust fund for the kid if you call it off now, and if you don&#039;t , we&#039;ll expose this dirt on you.  After all, Marty might have had to do Davey&#039;s dirty work while being his henchman and they might have threatened to bring up criminal acts he did for DM in his line of duty to him.  Or again, maybe something to do with the adoption of his son.  But it was right after that Theroux filming that Marty flipped sides.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-meltdown/#comment-263615">Kathalean</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent assessment of Marty and things.  I think you&#8217;re probably right that he wanted to be the big cheese and the voice of Ex Scn, and when Aftermath came along he was no longer that.  The media then turned to interview Leah and Mike etc.  </p>
<p>When watching the Theroux show where Marty is showing how to do TR&#8217;s and Marty and Theroux step out for a break, that is when the Scn Squirrel Busters come up (they&#8217;d been laying in wait for this moment, I suspect) and they made sure to mention Marty&#8217;s newly adopted son and imply that they might go public on some dirt they learned about the adoption or something.  That is when Marty lost it, blew up,  and got all upset and pissy and told Theroux to fuck off or something.  Theroux didn&#8217;t lose his cool and gave Marty a  kind of humorous ack to Marty&#8217;s blow up.  </p>
<p>I think the Squirrel Busters &#8220;missed a withhold&#8221; on Marty, to use Scn terms.  They missed that maybe there was something amiss about how he came to get this adopted baby.  It clearly had something to do with the kid.  And Marty did his about face not long after that, EVEN THOUGH HE AND MOSEY WERE WINNING THE LAWSUIT and they had Davey on the ropes.  I think Davey offered Marty both  a carrot and a stick, as in we&#8217;ll give you all this money and college trust fund for the kid if you call it off now, and if you don&#8217;t , we&#8217;ll expose this dirt on you.  After all, Marty might have had to do Davey&#8217;s dirty work while being his henchman and they might have threatened to bring up criminal acts he did for DM in his line of duty to him.  Or again, maybe something to do with the adoption of his son.  But it was right after that Theroux filming that Marty flipped sides.</p>
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