Comments on: Mighty Tampa Ideal Org – The Best Is Not Good Enough

By: Aquamarine

Aquamarine — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 07:09:42 +0000

In reply to Mary Kahn. She said that? That's hilarious!, Mary! At least she was being honest :)

By: Aquamarine

Aquamarine — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 07:04:45 +0000

In reply to jere Lull (39 years recovering).

I hear you, jere, but after all is said in done, it doesn’t matter how ingeniously the cult people pad and otherwise falsify their stats. It doesn’t matter.

They know their stats are not real.

They know they’re not producing anywhere near what they should.

At best they’re preventing themselves from being RPF’d or otherwise punished, having to do Lowers, etc. That’s at best.

Meanwhile they’re committing High Crimes – falsifying a stat per LRH is a High Crime, right? Someone please correct me if I’m wrong as I haven’t read this stuff in 8 years.

High Crime or no, lying to their Seniors, lying to the public, lying to themselves, not getting out anywhere near enough real products to be viable, the creating of complexities via the lies in turn creating more complexities, in turn necessitating more lies, and so on and so on… my God, think about it! What a miserable, empty, wasteful existence these people are leading!

No wonder they’re so unhealthy! No wonder so many of them get strangely sick and die too young. Living this way…just thinking about living like this, all these lies, all the time, year in and year out is making me feel slightly ill.

By: Ms. B. Haven

Ms. B. Haven — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 00:21:20 +0000

In reply to Chris Shugart. Chris, your comment about a homeless guy looking for a handout reminded me of something that happened when I was staff at a mission. It was a particularly slow week and the regges were desperate for some action. They 'regged' a homeless guy for a quarter. Their reasoning was to do something to 'create a flow'. Anything was better than nothing. I don't remember how the stats for the mission turned out that week, but that poor homeless guy's stats were crashing.

By: Cindy

Cindy — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 22:29:05 +0000

I remember LA Org being told they were the “best” and “most upstat” org around, even better than Tampa Org. So for that reason, they started sending people from all over the country to LA Org to learn how to be as upstat as they are and to intern there as a staff member and to export the special gold dust that LA Org has to be the training org of all time. And that designation as the org that will train all others to be upstat like them, that was before DM had 200 SO members descend on LA Org and push out the existing staff and take over the place and run it themselves. If it was doing as well as they claimed, why then the need to send 200 SO members over to run the place and let the staff go? (anyone who signed a SO contract could stay.)

By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)

jere Lull (39 years recovering) — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 09:16:10 +0000

In reply to Imaberrated.

When you mention THURSDAY@ 2 PM, ex-staff will shudder; a key-in, at least, though I suspect SOME receive new Engrams from the tiny fists of fury — or USED to; He’s pushed past 60, and undoubtedly doesn’t want to exert too much after Wednesday night’s imbibing of the sacred single-malt.

By: Peacemaker

Peacemaker — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 08:02:51 +0000

Even a couple of truly new service starts a week seems surprising, but my guess is that family may account for much of that, probably along with some fudging of stats as others have suggested. Children of locals would likely do their first services at either Tampa or the Bellaire Mission, as might some children of visitors to Flag – which probably has increasing numbers of customers coming from places where there is no local org and no coverage from the rapidly shrinking mission network.

By: Geoff Levin

Geoff Levin — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 04:20:42 +0000

Slightly O/T,
Yes, in 1974 Hubbard tasked me ant Tony Strawn with writing the song “We”re going up while the world is going Down”. I told him I did not like the song and so the song was not written.. and so my stay on ship was greatly shortened. I know I’m one of the few people who spoke out regarding the emperors new cloth and didn’t get thrown in chain locker or the RPF.
I went into the RPF later, not for that episode.
Scientology is a shell of what it was when I was on the ship.
I’m grateful for Mike, Leah, Tony, Jeffrey, Chris, Karen, Jon and a host of authors and bloggers for making that a reality. 2020 will be a year of crushing defeats for the cult. That’s my prediction for what it’s worth.

By: Cat W.

Cat W. — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 02:03:18 +0000

In reply to Chris Shugart.

“Intro Service completions can and do include such things as:

Walk-in asking for directions
Pizza delivery
Fire Dept annual inspection
Mailman
Homeless guy looking for handout”

LOL! I will keep this in mind whenever I see Scientology stats, especially the narcissist-in-chief making his boasts from his porch to Infinity.

By: Imaberrated

Imaberrated — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 01:18:36 +0000

In reply to Zee Moo. Thursday 2:00 PM?

By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)

jere Lull (39 years recovering) — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 00:16:31 +0000

In reply to Wynski.

Wynski, you’ve nailed it! The false “starts” stat undoubtedly include someone buying a book being credited for starting some mythical course involving that book — whether or not the new meat ever looks at the “checksheet”disguised as a free bookmark.

[DANG! Hope I didn’t just give the OSA guy reading us a bright idea. That could inflate their “stats” enormously AND GET MORE emphasis on selling the damned things.]