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		By: Time Lord		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is odd?

I though the Fitzroy street office closed when you were about 4 years old?]]></description>
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<p>I though the Fitzroy street office closed when you were about 4 years old?</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264276</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2019 14:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264133&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

The search for the equation of everything continues. To know the mind of God. To leap tall buildings at a single bound. etc. :)]]></description>
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<p>The search for the equation of everything continues. To know the mind of God. To leap tall buildings at a single bound. etc. 🙂</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264179</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2019 04:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264110&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

FP, debunked a number of research studies that I&#039;ve referenced many times before, available in the citations for the Wikipedia article; I actually have copies of all the works cited as well as some additional ones on the subject, if anyone is really interested in original sources:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression#Sources_of_memories 

Then there was the embarrassment of the discredited Bridey Murphy case, which Hubbard initially tried to claim partial credit for:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridey_Murphy#Book_publication_and_response

And of course no one claiming past lives has ever shown full recall of foreign languages they would have spoken, or even archaic English dialects, or the ability to recall truly incontrovertible details of dates and other specific information like full names of family members, much less say walk into a bank and claim old accounts.  I know there are anecdotal cases told with a bit of intriguing embellishment, but they all lack incontrovertible detail and end up breaking down under scrutiny like Bridey Murphy.

And finally, one of the problems that dying scientology - including the indies - have, is none of the thousands of people who went &quot;clear&quot; or &quot;OT&quot; before passing away decades ago, are picking up new bodies and showing back up at the orgs with full recall and case gains intact to save the day.  That&#039;s not working out like Hubbard explicitly promised it would, is it?]]></description>
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<p>FP, debunked a number of research studies that I&#8217;ve referenced many times before, available in the citations for the Wikipedia article; I actually have copies of all the works cited as well as some additional ones on the subject, if anyone is really interested in original sources:  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression#Sources_of_memories" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression#Sources_of_memories</a> </p>
<p>Then there was the embarrassment of the discredited Bridey Murphy case, which Hubbard initially tried to claim partial credit for:  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridey_Murphy#Book_publication_and_response" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridey_Murphy#Book_publication_and_response</a></p>
<p>And of course no one claiming past lives has ever shown full recall of foreign languages they would have spoken, or even archaic English dialects, or the ability to recall truly incontrovertible details of dates and other specific information like full names of family members, much less say walk into a bank and claim old accounts.  I know there are anecdotal cases told with a bit of intriguing embellishment, but they all lack incontrovertible detail and end up breaking down under scrutiny like Bridey Murphy.</p>
<p>And finally, one of the problems that dying scientology &#8211; including the indies &#8211; have, is none of the thousands of people who went &#8220;clear&#8221; or &#8220;OT&#8221; before passing away decades ago, are picking up new bodies and showing back up at the orgs with full recall and case gains intact to save the day.  That&#8217;s not working out like Hubbard explicitly promised it would, is it?</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264137</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 22:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264110&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Debunked&quot; eh? Really, by whom? No doubt some &quot;authority on the human mind&quot; eh? Maybe I should call you &quot;Mr. Debunker&quot;! Continuing with my &quot;childish&quot; type of humor as noted by Mike, if you were to post on The Bunker you could be called &quot;Mr. Bombastic Debunker of the Bunker&quot;, but no, that is not half so funny as &quot;Brian&quot;. Still had a small chuckle though! 

Mike there should be an MP3 attachment so people can play &quot;Mr. Bombastic&quot; whenever Peacemaker posts his long screeds of &quot;authoritative&quot; references that he thinks proves something or other.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Debunked&#8221; eh? Really, by whom? No doubt some &#8220;authority on the human mind&#8221; eh? Maybe I should call you &#8220;Mr. Debunker&#8221;! Continuing with my &#8220;childish&#8221; type of humor as noted by Mike, if you were to post on The Bunker you could be called &#8220;Mr. Bombastic Debunker of the Bunker&#8221;, but no, that is not half so funny as &#8220;Brian&#8221;. Still had a small chuckle though! </p>
<p>Mike there should be an MP3 attachment so people can play &#8220;Mr. Bombastic&#8221; whenever Peacemaker posts his long screeds of &#8220;authoritative&#8221; references that he thinks proves something or other.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 21:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264088&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard - I think there are several tracts written or given as lectures by Hubbard, one as I vaguely recall (joke there for the idiots) is called something like &quot;On Human Memory&quot; - tapes as well as PABs. Perhaps you should ask Kat which part of the Brian (sic) map that is?]]></description>
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<p>Richard &#8211; I think there are several tracts written or given as lectures by Hubbard, one as I vaguely recall (joke there for the idiots) is called something like &#8220;On Human Memory&#8221; &#8211; tapes as well as PABs. Perhaps you should ask Kat which part of the Brian (sic) map that is?</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264131</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 21:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-263950&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

Aw! Stop it Mike, this too much - you&#039;re taxing my Brian! Still chuckling...

And as for Kat, well, yep, glad I missed out on that - you carry on getting your Brian mapped! (Bursts out in another uproarious guffaw! AKA - LOL!) Have they found the immortal soul yet? And don&#039;t tell me - he wasn&#039;t called Brian by any chance? (Bursts out in another uproarious guffaw! AKA - LOL!) 

I do hope Brain (sic) has read this - makes it all the more sweeter. LOL - again!]]></description>
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<p>Aw! Stop it Mike, this too much &#8211; you&#8217;re taxing my Brian! Still chuckling&#8230;</p>
<p>And as for Kat, well, yep, glad I missed out on that &#8211; you carry on getting your Brian mapped! (Bursts out in another uproarious guffaw! AKA &#8211; LOL!) Have they found the immortal soul yet? And don&#8217;t tell me &#8211; he wasn&#8217;t called Brian by any chance? (Bursts out in another uproarious guffaw! AKA &#8211; LOL!) </p>
<p>I do hope Brain (sic) has read this &#8211; makes it all the more sweeter. LOL &#8211; again!</p>
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		By: Kat LaRue		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kat LaRue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 20:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-263950&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

Foolproof,

That&#039;s about the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. Apparently you&#039;ve been sleeping for the last 50 years and missed every scientific advancement on brain mapping.  

Kat]]></description>
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<p>Foolproof,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. Apparently you&#8217;ve been sleeping for the last 50 years and missed every scientific advancement on brain mapping.  </p>
<p>Kat</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 19:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264088&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard, I think the &quot;maybe there never will be&quot; sort of argument is specious - science is clearly on a path of greater and greater understanding, partly due to the emergence of new tools such as fMRI or functional MRI, which effectively allows researchers to see the brain in operation.  A few of the most complex issues, like spirituality and free will, may well remain mysteries - I actually honor the idea, the science points us towards what is truly mysterious as it explains the mundane.

Beyond that old wisdom that every witness to an accident has a different memory of it, modern science has a least thoroughly proven that memory does indeed have significant shortcomings, and is subject to revision and even manipulation.  Hubbard&#039;s and Scientology&#039;s theories about memory, have now been thoroughly debunked, and it&#039;s clearly been demonstrated that their techniques and processes lead to a lot of false &quot;memories&quot; (a phenomenon so pervasive that even Hubbard had to tacitly acknowledge it), as well as having other shortcomings and even dangers]]></description>
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<p>Richard, I think the &#8220;maybe there never will be&#8221; sort of argument is specious &#8211; science is clearly on a path of greater and greater understanding, partly due to the emergence of new tools such as fMRI or functional MRI, which effectively allows researchers to see the brain in operation.  A few of the most complex issues, like spirituality and free will, may well remain mysteries &#8211; I actually honor the idea, the science points us towards what is truly mysterious as it explains the mundane.</p>
<p>Beyond that old wisdom that every witness to an accident has a different memory of it, modern science has a least thoroughly proven that memory does indeed have significant shortcomings, and is subject to revision and even manipulation.  Hubbard&#8217;s and Scientology&#8217;s theories about memory, have now been thoroughly debunked, and it&#8217;s clearly been demonstrated that their techniques and processes lead to a lot of false &#8220;memories&#8221; (a phenomenon so pervasive that even Hubbard had to tacitly acknowledge it), as well as having other shortcomings and even dangers</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 18:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-264098&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Tickled that refined sense of humor of yours eh FP? 

Always good to see you having a good laugh at a typo and milking it like a 6 year old.

Cackle on...]]></description>
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<p>Tickled that refined sense of humor of yours eh FP? </p>
<p>Always good to see you having a good laugh at a typo and milking it like a 6 year old.</p>
<p>Cackle on&#8230;</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 18:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-263950&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

And indeed, &quot;the Brian has very little to do with thinking&quot;! In fact this is hurting my Brian! We can do some Brian-storming on this brian theory if your brian is not hurting too much under the influence of Kat&#039;s Freudian Slips. And are there any more Brian theories issuing forth from Brian&#039;s brian? I look forward to these Brian-teasers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-a-scientology-nobody/#comment-263950">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>And indeed, &#8220;the Brian has very little to do with thinking&#8221;! In fact this is hurting my Brian! We can do some Brian-storming on this brian theory if your brian is not hurting too much under the influence of Kat&#8217;s Freudian Slips. And are there any more Brian theories issuing forth from Brian&#8217;s brian? I look forward to these Brian-teasers!</p>
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