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		By: indie8million		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88339</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indie8million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2015 11:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88209&quot;&gt;Paolo&lt;/a&gt;.

Georgina Tweedie - walk out, drive to Vegas, get on a plane, get out. We love you. You won&#039;t lose your eternity (everything&#039;s being delivered in the field by LRH trained Class VIII/OT 8s) and you deserve better than demotions for no reason. You are so logical. Look and see.

I know you&#039;ve seen what&#039;s on the internet, especially Debbie Cook&#039;s letter and court footage. What if it&#039;s true? What if you and your husband are at risk? Get out now before Miscavige sees this post and it misses his withhold. 

You know how they work...use only cash, etc. etc. See you out here. We are here, thousands of us. Happy, going up the Bridge. Free.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88209">Paolo</a>.</p>
<p>Georgina Tweedie &#8211; walk out, drive to Vegas, get on a plane, get out. We love you. You won&#8217;t lose your eternity (everything&#8217;s being delivered in the field by LRH trained Class VIII/OT 8s) and you deserve better than demotions for no reason. You are so logical. Look and see.</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;ve seen what&#8217;s on the internet, especially Debbie Cook&#8217;s letter and court footage. What if it&#8217;s true? What if you and your husband are at risk? Get out now before Miscavige sees this post and it misses his withhold. </p>
<p>You know how they work&#8230;use only cash, etc. etc. See you out here. We are here, thousands of us. Happy, going up the Bridge. Free.</p>
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		By: Paolo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2015 04:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I knew Claire Edwards very well. Her face now indicates a person full of hate and resentment. She worsened a lot. I would never want to be like her. 

Go Mike!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Claire Edwards very well. Her face now indicates a person full of hate and resentment. She worsened a lot. I would never want to be like her. </p>
<p>Go Mike!!!!</p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88198</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2015 00:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88106&quot;&gt;Scott Mercer&lt;/a&gt;.

Aye Aye]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88106">Scott Mercer</a>.</p>
<p>Aye Aye</p>
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		By: Scott Mercer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2015 06:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear God, these people look like dead-eyed robots.  Like they haven&#039;t slept in years.  Like homeless people that were given some ill fitting new clothes straight off the rack and told to sit down in this chair and read some cue cards.  I guess that&#039;s the most convincing acting they can muster out of their dead souls.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear God, these people look like dead-eyed robots.  Like they haven&#8217;t slept in years.  Like homeless people that were given some ill fitting new clothes straight off the rack and told to sit down in this chair and read some cue cards.  I guess that&#8217;s the most convincing acting they can muster out of their dead souls.</p>
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		By: grace 24/7		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2015 01:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88024&quot;&gt;Grace24/7&lt;/a&gt;.

I understand the expressed objections. The Christian religion has committed atrocities, the pedophile priests are recent crimes that grieve the Holy Spirit as well as laity.  If you read New Testament stories, Jesus expresses anger to the religious leaders of the day. His anger addresses how they lord and wield their power and position over their people and cause undue suffering. 

Jesus was well aware of the temptation for power to corrupt even the most pious of leaders. But men still turn away from His truth and commit sins in the name of God. As laity we are accountable to hold our leaders responsible as well as ourselves.

Regarding transformative power, Christians do not have supernatural powers nor an ability to transform ourselves. We believe those powers belong solely to God. God only allows us to operate in our human domain.  We are limited beings. Not able to live outside of time and space. To believe otherwise is to worship false idols.

Back to the Garden of Eden story, eating the apple of the forbidden tree, believing it would give us god like powers, represents the fall, falling out of integrity with God.

My belief is God is restoring us now. He is near and longs to be in relationship to mankind as our parent, counselor, lover of our souls. Not out of his need, he had no unmet needs, but out of his generous hospitality and love.

If you so choose, pray the scriptures to Him and verify for yourself. Take any scripture in the bible and ask Him to reveal it&#039;s meaning and to write it onto your heart. Peace be with you.  John 3:16]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88024">Grace24/7</a>.</p>
<p>I understand the expressed objections. The Christian religion has committed atrocities, the pedophile priests are recent crimes that grieve the Holy Spirit as well as laity.  If you read New Testament stories, Jesus expresses anger to the religious leaders of the day. His anger addresses how they lord and wield their power and position over their people and cause undue suffering. </p>
<p>Jesus was well aware of the temptation for power to corrupt even the most pious of leaders. But men still turn away from His truth and commit sins in the name of God. As laity we are accountable to hold our leaders responsible as well as ourselves.</p>
<p>Regarding transformative power, Christians do not have supernatural powers nor an ability to transform ourselves. We believe those powers belong solely to God. God only allows us to operate in our human domain.  We are limited beings. Not able to live outside of time and space. To believe otherwise is to worship false idols.</p>
<p>Back to the Garden of Eden story, eating the apple of the forbidden tree, believing it would give us god like powers, represents the fall, falling out of integrity with God.</p>
<p>My belief is God is restoring us now. He is near and longs to be in relationship to mankind as our parent, counselor, lover of our souls. Not out of his need, he had no unmet needs, but out of his generous hospitality and love.</p>
<p>If you so choose, pray the scriptures to Him and verify for yourself. Take any scripture in the bible and ask Him to reveal it&#8217;s meaning and to write it onto your heart. Peace be with you.  John 3:16</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 13:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-87876&quot;&gt;Bruce&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Bruce, Thank you for this post.My prayers,hopes dreams &#038; Intentions for Mike &#038; his family also.He @ all the brave souls that are letting our voices finally be heard on blogs.Thank you always for helping me each time I read the posts.Of course I may not agree with all posts,trolls especially, but I love y&#039;all Take Care. Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-87876">Bruce</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Bruce, Thank you for this post.My prayers,hopes dreams &amp; Intentions for Mike &amp; his family also.He @ all the brave souls that are letting our voices finally be heard on blogs.Thank you always for helping me each time I read the posts.Of course I may not agree with all posts,trolls especially, but I love y&#8217;all Take Care. Ann B.</p>
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		By: Safe Web		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88056</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Safe Web]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 09:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was in the FLO during the time Mike was on post in OSA. He had a very difficult post and was under a lot of pressure all the time. That being the case, I never remember him being nasty or rude to the people he worked with or other people in the building. Staff members tend to get a reputation for treating the people they work with in a very toxic way and Mike never had that reputation. Many staff members did, notably his ex wife Kathy Rinder who had a horrible reputation and treated everyone in a very disrespectful and demeaning way.

l think they could have been made a more realistic video with statements that were closer to things that Mike did while he was on staff : &quot;Known for insisting his hair looked perfect, taking lots of time on that when he should have been producing&quot; or &quot;I was very suspicious of that Australian accent, so perfect and he hadn&#039;t been in Australia in years.&quot; Or &quot;he tended to smile a lot and that bothered me knowing he usually got four to five hours of sleep per night.&quot; &quot;Too damn good looking for his own good.&quot;

Seriuosly, I wonder who they think this video is going to reach since Scn&#039;s are not allowed to search Scn on the internet and Sea Org members don&#039;t even have access to a computer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the FLO during the time Mike was on post in OSA. He had a very difficult post and was under a lot of pressure all the time. That being the case, I never remember him being nasty or rude to the people he worked with or other people in the building. Staff members tend to get a reputation for treating the people they work with in a very toxic way and Mike never had that reputation. Many staff members did, notably his ex wife Kathy Rinder who had a horrible reputation and treated everyone in a very disrespectful and demeaning way.</p>
<p>l think they could have been made a more realistic video with statements that were closer to things that Mike did while he was on staff : &#8220;Known for insisting his hair looked perfect, taking lots of time on that when he should have been producing&#8221; or &#8220;I was very suspicious of that Australian accent, so perfect and he hadn&#8217;t been in Australia in years.&#8221; Or &#8220;he tended to smile a lot and that bothered me knowing he usually got four to five hours of sleep per night.&#8221; &#8220;Too damn good looking for his own good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriuosly, I wonder who they think this video is going to reach since Scn&#8217;s are not allowed to search Scn on the internet and Sea Org members don&#8217;t even have access to a computer.</p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88053</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 05:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology needs to spend some of their war chest on hiring less inept proof readers be fore they roll out another one of their  maligning Rinder videos. 
First the narrator says Mike Rinder suddenly left the church. Later on the narrator states that Mike was expelled for certain behaviors?!  Which is it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology needs to spend some of their war chest on hiring less inept proof readers be fore they roll out another one of their  maligning Rinder videos.<br />
First the narrator says Mike Rinder suddenly left the church. Later on the narrator states that Mike was expelled for certain behaviors?!  Which is it?</p>
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		By: Roger Hornaday		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88043</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Hornaday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 02:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88037&quot;&gt;John Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

John the argument you&#039;re accusing me of is the &quot;straw man&quot; argument. I&#039;m not making such an argument. YOU are making that argument by misrepresenting what I said then criticizing the misrepresentation.  I stand by my comment although I consider it was unnecessary to make and sounded rather unfriendly. Thank you John for giving me the opportunity to say that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88037">John Locke</a>.</p>
<p>John the argument you&#8217;re accusing me of is the &#8220;straw man&#8221; argument. I&#8217;m not making such an argument. YOU are making that argument by misrepresenting what I said then criticizing the misrepresentation.  I stand by my comment although I consider it was unnecessary to make and sounded rather unfriendly. Thank you John for giving me the opportunity to say that.</p>
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		By: John Locke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 00:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88024&quot;&gt;Grace24/7&lt;/a&gt;.

Roger, INCORRECT.  I&#039;ve seen nothing in the Bible that makes claims for gaining on Earth, here &#038; now superhuman, OBJECTIVE powers over matter ,time, space &#038; energy as Scn does.  Cult members keep forgetting that it was those lies told by El Con that was the MAIN engine of membership and money for the Scn cult.  

You are engaging in what is known as a logical fallacy argument.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/mike-rinder-coffee-waiter/#comment-88024">Grace24/7</a>.</p>
<p>Roger, INCORRECT.  I&#8217;ve seen nothing in the Bible that makes claims for gaining on Earth, here &amp; now superhuman, OBJECTIVE powers over matter ,time, space &amp; energy as Scn does.  Cult members keep forgetting that it was those lies told by El Con that was the MAIN engine of membership and money for the Scn cult.  </p>
<p>You are engaging in what is known as a logical fallacy argument.</p>
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