Joe, when a person leaves the “church” and drags a member into court (Katie) they have committed numerous suppressive acts and have to be declared. So, your analysis is incorrect there. Mike would have more data on Nic and what went down. I don’t know.

And now after work a longer reply. Yes when people keep telling you it helps them. And when declared people even defend it why heckle them for it.

But mainley I am convinced by Hubbard in a lecture october 1954 where he talks about hypnotism and auditing.

It has to do with making your unconscious mind worf for you instead of against you. But that’s my opinion.

Was just thinking about her…come on Davey, I dare you…declare Elvis’ daughter!

“… and one terrified lamb scream at me that I was a Declared SP and I was not to talk to him!”

As if you could infect him with a deadly epidemic disease – the “disease” of following his own doubts, looking and confronting, drawing the consequences and getting his integrity back.

I just ask everybody to put their disconnection stories on: http://www.stopdisconnection.com/
(“The purpose of this site is to document Scientology’s practice of disconnection – destroying families in order to keep its members subdued, controlled and leveraged.”)

“The tragedy though is that the Dim Midget will never serve time behind bars.
He will flee to the Freewinds and duck out in the Caribbean.”

Ah, yes – smoking filterless Camels and breathing “blue” asbestos. With asthma.

I wouldn’t wish metastasized lung cancer on anyone, ever, but if he takes to seclusion on the FW, maybe that will limit the number of others exposed to that toxic environment. Still, a sad ending for a sad little man.

I get what you’re saying. There definitely are a lot of people quietly out of the church, and friends with SPs on FB, and haven’t received a phone call. And this most likely because there are a lot more people out of the church, than in.

But people are being declared for being connected to SPs, even if they don’t leave the church. A friend of mine was declared recently for helping her son when he blew the SO and had nowhere to go. And if you really are a coolaid drinker, the pressure is really hard to disconnect, even if the person isn’t declared.

Some church.

In a perverse sense it is on topic. The article details enforced connection, the opposite of enforced disconnection. Church of Extremes.

Not quite the full story Joe.

J Lo’s dad IS a Scientologist. So he should be ordered to disconnect from JLo who is clearly associating with an SP. Thus JLo would be in the position of reminaing connected to her father or to Leah even though she is NOT a Scientologist. This happens all the time.

As for Nicole and Katie. Nicole did up to OT III. And training. That is a pretty good “Scientologist”… Katie has badly dissed Miscavige, Cruise and the church by her silence. I wrote about this before. Believe me, the fact that she did NOT “correct” the media about the reasons for divorcing and taking Suri is a real problem. Her father is definitely an SP. So too Nicole’s father.