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		By: Church of Cosmetology		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260926&quot;&gt;RMycroft&lt;/a&gt;.

It is Rahmeka Cox. The Bunker got a statement from the Miss New York organization: https://tonyortega.org/2019/03/16/miss-america-organization-says-its-looking-into-scientologys-use-of-miss-new-york/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260926">RMycroft</a>.</p>
<p>It is Rahmeka Cox. The Bunker got a statement from the Miss New York organization: <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2019/03/16/miss-america-organization-says-its-looking-into-scientologys-use-of-miss-new-york/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://tonyortega.org/2019/03/16/miss-america-organization-says-its-looking-into-scientologys-use-of-miss-new-york/</a></p>
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		By: Phillip		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2019 05:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260848&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Aqua.  I appreciate your heartfelt response.  

We all have to put on a &quot;make-nice public face&quot; for various reasons from time to time, but as a never-in it&#039;s interesting to hear that you weren&#039;t completely unaware of what was happening.  

Also, the fact that even when you were IN you could see/smell/sense that something wasn&#039;t right gives me hope that others may share your epiphany.  Thanks, again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260848">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Aqua.  I appreciate your heartfelt response.  </p>
<p>We all have to put on a &#8220;make-nice public face&#8221; for various reasons from time to time, but as a never-in it&#8217;s interesting to hear that you weren&#8217;t completely unaware of what was happening.  </p>
<p>Also, the fact that even when you were IN you could see/smell/sense that something wasn&#8217;t right gives me hope that others may share your epiphany.  Thanks, again.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260623&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua:&quot;Every state should have drug clinics with whatever people are addicted to and need is prescribed.

This is controversial, I know.&quot;

Yeah, it&#039;s controversial -- because those who are SO unshakeably convinced that &quot;reefer madness&quot; was a sane, staid,  and measured documentary of the ACTUAL dangers of Cannabis won&#039;t stop railing against their preconceived ideas of its dangers long enough to consider that the already-demonstrated benefits of its use amongst otherwise sober individuals should be sufficient to authorize real SCIENTIFIC studies of its plusses and cons.  We&#039;re in a situation much like the US as it started to roll back prohibition.  One set of folks I&#039;d surely want to hear  weigh in on the subject are the folks of LEAP:&quot; Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.  THEY well know the truths of Weed&#039;s use &#038; abuse, and the negative costs of the so-called WAR against its use.  IF the assigned-without-proof assignment to  Schedule 1  were   rolled back so real research could legally be done in the US, I&#039;m of the opinion that sufficient medical benefits would be proven to banish it from Schedule 1 forever. There IS real research being done by folks who KNOW they&#039;re technically considered criminals by the bigoted bureaucrats who control things in that realm.  

IF cannabis were sufficiently legalized and was state-controlled and taxed, eventually, there wouldn&#039;t be so much money in it that organized crime could profit so handsomely; If many fewer citizens were locked up and thus prevented from being  productive, tax-paying citizens rather than tax-consumers rotting in jails, more money, resources, and trained individuals would be available to teach folks NOT to surrender their lives to drugs, and to help rehabilitate those who didn&#039;t get the message. No, of  COURSE life wouldn&#039;t be that simple, but remember that colonial America required farmers to grow a certain amount of hemp because it was a vital resource for making the hemp ropes necessary for rigging the  sailing ships which were vital for commerce and war. America *blossomed* in that period that cannabis was so universally accessible. Even Tubby didn&#039;t label it as HORRIBLE, since it allowed the neurotic to function better, IIRC. Within the last decade or so scientific research has found definite benefits of Cannabis and found a complex of  types of neural receptors for the natural cannabinoids that our bodies necessarily produce. It is theorized, with some clinical evidence, that cannabis re-enforces the beneficial and necessary effects of the body&#039;s self-produced cannabinoids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260623">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aqua:&#8221;Every state should have drug clinics with whatever people are addicted to and need is prescribed.</p>
<p>This is controversial, I know.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s controversial &#8212; because those who are SO unshakeably convinced that &#8220;reefer madness&#8221; was a sane, staid,  and measured documentary of the ACTUAL dangers of Cannabis won&#8217;t stop railing against their preconceived ideas of its dangers long enough to consider that the already-demonstrated benefits of its use amongst otherwise sober individuals should be sufficient to authorize real SCIENTIFIC studies of its plusses and cons.  We&#8217;re in a situation much like the US as it started to roll back prohibition.  One set of folks I&#8217;d surely want to hear  weigh in on the subject are the folks of LEAP:&#8221; Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.  THEY well know the truths of Weed&#8217;s use &amp; abuse, and the negative costs of the so-called WAR against its use.  IF the assigned-without-proof assignment to  Schedule 1  were   rolled back so real research could legally be done in the US, I&#8217;m of the opinion that sufficient medical benefits would be proven to banish it from Schedule 1 forever. There IS real research being done by folks who KNOW they&#8217;re technically considered criminals by the bigoted bureaucrats who control things in that realm.  </p>
<p>IF cannabis were sufficiently legalized and was state-controlled and taxed, eventually, there wouldn&#8217;t be so much money in it that organized crime could profit so handsomely; If many fewer citizens were locked up and thus prevented from being  productive, tax-paying citizens rather than tax-consumers rotting in jails, more money, resources, and trained individuals would be available to teach folks NOT to surrender their lives to drugs, and to help rehabilitate those who didn&#8217;t get the message. No, of  COURSE life wouldn&#8217;t be that simple, but remember that colonial America required farmers to grow a certain amount of hemp because it was a vital resource for making the hemp ropes necessary for rigging the  sailing ships which were vital for commerce and war. America *blossomed* in that period that cannabis was so universally accessible. Even Tubby didn&#8217;t label it as HORRIBLE, since it allowed the neurotic to function better, IIRC. Within the last decade or so scientific research has found definite benefits of Cannabis and found a complex of  types of neural receptors for the natural cannabinoids that our bodies necessarily produce. It is theorized, with some clinical evidence, that cannabis re-enforces the beneficial and necessary effects of the body&#8217;s self-produced cannabinoids.</p>
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		By: RMycroft		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting that they never name her. I believe that&#039;s Rahmeka Cox‎. They have a history of getting Miss New Yorks to shill for them.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Miss_New_York&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Category:Miss New York&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that they never name her. I believe that&#8217;s Rahmeka Cox‎. They have a history of getting Miss New Yorks to shill for them.</p>
<p><a href="https://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Miss_New_York" rel="nofollow">Category:Miss New York</a></p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 13:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260734&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

I started off at the Salt Lake City mission in 1976. I don&#039;t know how long it had been established there. I eventually spent about a year working as a staff auditor there and wasn&#039;t aware of any organizational flaps. I split in 1982 and as I understand it, it was shortly after that when Elron sent out the sea org police to strip the missions. I wouldn&#039;t have been aware of any organization wide changes in the 1970&#039;s. For me it was smooth sailing until I blew because of the monthly price increases. 

( I still like saying &quot;I blew Scientology&quot;. It sounds rather dramatic - haha)]]></description>
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<p>I started off at the Salt Lake City mission in 1976. I don&#8217;t know how long it had been established there. I eventually spent about a year working as a staff auditor there and wasn&#8217;t aware of any organizational flaps. I split in 1982 and as I understand it, it was shortly after that when Elron sent out the sea org police to strip the missions. I wouldn&#8217;t have been aware of any organization wide changes in the 1970&#8217;s. For me it was smooth sailing until I blew because of the monthly price increases. </p>
<p>( I still like saying &#8220;I blew Scientology&#8221;. It sounds rather dramatic &#8211; haha)</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 04:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260643&quot;&gt;Phillip&lt;/a&gt;.

Incredibly tired of it, Phillip, and essentially, bored.  

But we had to - perhaps I should just speak for myself - I felt that I HAD to  - ACT excited about it all. 

I observed that acting excited and enthusiastic about what I was being told (yet AGAIN) was expected of me.  

&quot;I SHOULD feel excited.&quot; 

 But I didn&#039;t, so I acted, that&#039;s all. 

In my heart of hearts, I was sceptical and bored after a while.  &quot;Yeah, right... &quot; here we go AGAIN...&quot;  

One of the YUGEST benefits to me of being out of the cult is not having to PRETEND anymore.  

I don&#039;t have to &quot;feel&quot; what I DON&#039;T feel; I don&#039;t have to NOT feel what I DO feel.

  Marvelous! 

 Being polite and considerate and social is one thing.  Its mostly a good idea to get along with people, to be kind, charming if you will - sure.  That&#039;s one thing.  Don&#039;t go around giving people a hard time.  Lift them up, make them a little happy.  That&#039;s a good thing.  That&#039;s not phony, that&#039;s caring about people and their feelings.  

 But LIVING A LIE, constantly having to pretend about something, feeling force to pretend...because if you DON&#039;T, you&#039;re IN TROUBLE...this  a VERY unhealthy way to live!  This is an disfunctional, unhealthy, harmful relationship!

End of rant :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260643">Phillip</a>.</p>
<p>Incredibly tired of it, Phillip, and essentially, bored.  </p>
<p>But we had to &#8211; perhaps I should just speak for myself &#8211; I felt that I HAD to  &#8211; ACT excited about it all. </p>
<p>I observed that acting excited and enthusiastic about what I was being told (yet AGAIN) was expected of me.  </p>
<p>&#8220;I SHOULD feel excited.&#8221; </p>
<p> But I didn&#8217;t, so I acted, that&#8217;s all. </p>
<p>In my heart of hearts, I was sceptical and bored after a while.  &#8220;Yeah, right&#8230; &#8221; here we go AGAIN&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>One of the YUGEST benefits to me of being out of the cult is not having to PRETEND anymore.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to &#8220;feel&#8221; what I DON&#8217;T feel; I don&#8217;t have to NOT feel what I DO feel.</p>
<p>  Marvelous! </p>
<p> Being polite and considerate and social is one thing.  Its mostly a good idea to get along with people, to be kind, charming if you will &#8211; sure.  That&#8217;s one thing.  Don&#8217;t go around giving people a hard time.  Lift them up, make them a little happy.  That&#8217;s a good thing.  That&#8217;s not phony, that&#8217;s caring about people and their feelings.  </p>
<p> But LIVING A LIE, constantly having to pretend about something, feeling force to pretend&#8230;because if you DON&#8217;T, you&#8217;re IN TROUBLE&#8230;this  a VERY unhealthy way to live!  This is an disfunctional, unhealthy, harmful relationship!</p>
<p>End of rant 🙂</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere lull (38years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 03:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260651&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

Kat offered:&quot;I wondered about that as well. How do the Elfmans and other Jewish people in Scientology reconcile the NOI in their cult.&quot;

IMO, they don&#039;t consider the idea, don&#039;t look beyond the &quot;acceptable truths&quot; (lies) put out by the scn propaganda machine which of course describing the NOI as exactly the sort of folks scientology will explosively grow with. Only those who are &#039;out&#039; to some degree are able to pull their heads out of the sand -- or out of their butts -- and actually consider they might be being lied to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260651">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>Kat offered:&#8221;I wondered about that as well. How do the Elfmans and other Jewish people in Scientology reconcile the NOI in their cult.&#8221;</p>
<p>IMO, they don&#8217;t consider the idea, don&#8217;t look beyond the &#8220;acceptable truths&#8221; (lies) put out by the scn propaganda machine which of course describing the NOI as exactly the sort of folks scientology will explosively grow with. Only those who are &#8216;out&#8217; to some degree are able to pull their heads out of the sand &#8212; or out of their butts &#8212; and actually consider they might be being lied to.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 03:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260650&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

Kat said:&quot;These people have no ethics about using someone high profile.&quot;

They have no ethics, period. What Tubby called ethics was a redefinition so complete that most in the bubble have no idea what it means in the real world.  To him, getting &#039;ethics&#039; in was nothing more than punishing all he could on the flimsiest of pretenses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260650">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>Kat said:&#8221;These people have no ethics about using someone high profile.&#8221;</p>
<p>They have no ethics, period. What Tubby called ethics was a redefinition so complete that most in the bubble have no idea what it means in the real world.  To him, getting &#8216;ethics&#8217; in was nothing more than punishing all he could on the flimsiest of pretenses.</p>
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		By: David Miscavige Is ?		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Fialkoff and his electrified daughter look like animated plasticine robots standing there on that stage. I wonder how much of their personal fortune 
?scientology? 
has drained from their coffers  to date. 

David Miscavige lives a wonderfully lavish lifestyle thanks to all of you idiots getting regged to death by this Giant Con Machine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Fialkoff and his electrified daughter look like animated plasticine robots standing there on that stage. I wonder how much of their personal fortune<br />
?scientology?<br />
has drained from their coffers  to date. </p>
<p>David Miscavige lives a wonderfully lavish lifestyle thanks to all of you idiots getting regged to death by this Giant Con Machine.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 18:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260626&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aquamarine, I&#039;ve been to Flog and I can attest your story is true.  The few unmarried men there were surrounded by women on the hunt for a &quot;good Scn man high on the Bridge&quot; to marry and have him pay for their Bridges and living expenses.  But the joke is on the women because now I know that most people who reach the top of the Bridge are in debt up to their eyeballs what with the cost of Flag auditing and the cost of paying to the IAS which you are forced to do plus all the other front groups asking for donations.    I believe the money issues (lack of it) are the reason so many couples in Scn get divorced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miss-ny-unwitting-scientology-shill/#comment-260626">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aquamarine, I&#8217;ve been to Flog and I can attest your story is true.  The few unmarried men there were surrounded by women on the hunt for a &#8220;good Scn man high on the Bridge&#8221; to marry and have him pay for their Bridges and living expenses.  But the joke is on the women because now I know that most people who reach the top of the Bridge are in debt up to their eyeballs what with the cost of Flag auditing and the cost of paying to the IAS which you are forced to do plus all the other front groups asking for donations.    I believe the money issues (lack of it) are the reason so many couples in Scn get divorced.</p>
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