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	<description>Something Can Be Done About It</description>
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		By: Peter Bonyai		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58743</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Bonyai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58510&quot;&gt;ozzybud&lt;/a&gt;.

It is available, AFAIK:
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00MPY40Y6]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58510">ozzybud</a>.</p>
<p>It is available, AFAIK:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00MPY40Y6" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00MPY40Y6</a></p>
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		By: Peter Bonyai		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58736</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Bonyai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58726&quot;&gt;Tara&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, I hope you will like it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58726">Tara</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, I hope you will like it.</p>
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		By: Espiritu		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58731</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hear you, Peter. I never even worshiped LRH, but DM is a wannabe usurper. At least LRH actually originated something himself which many have found useful. I think of Ron as a very intelligent and very well intentioned person who was not perfect but was a pretty darned good guy generally. He had &quot;warts&quot;, but who doesn&#039;t? DM is another story entirely. He doesn&#039;t have much love for his fellow man.

I&#039;m glad you at least got something good out of your experience with the subject of Scientology, and I hope that you can find a way to heal the wounds inflicted by that renegade organization. Looks like you are off to a good start.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, Peter. I never even worshiped LRH, but DM is a wannabe usurper. At least LRH actually originated something himself which many have found useful. I think of Ron as a very intelligent and very well intentioned person who was not perfect but was a pretty darned good guy generally. He had &#8220;warts&#8221;, but who doesn&#8217;t? DM is another story entirely. He doesn&#8217;t have much love for his fellow man.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you at least got something good out of your experience with the subject of Scientology, and I hope that you can find a way to heal the wounds inflicted by that renegade organization. Looks like you are off to a good start.</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58726</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 05:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done! Looking forward to reading it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done! Looking forward to reading it.</p>
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		By: ozzybud		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58724</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 04:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58519&quot;&gt;Peter Bonyai&lt;/a&gt;.

Horrible news!  My attempt to purchase wouldn&#039;t work due to it not being available in my country(Canada). ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58519">Peter Bonyai</a>.</p>
<p>Horrible news!  My attempt to purchase wouldn&#8217;t work due to it not being available in my country(Canada). </p>
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		By: unclepepin		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58721</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 03:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58612&quot;&gt;Peter Bonyai&lt;/a&gt;.

With your book you brought that decline closer. They now have a viewpoint in Hungarian with an author who is hard to deny credibility of; language is a big barrier to accessing anything about Cos than church sanctioned or tabloid grade info. Also, do not underestimate the power of your own profile. There are probably plenty of people taking heed of your advice without giving it away or do quite the opposite to survive the transition unscathed or just lessening the damage. Survival routines of 45 years of communist/socialist rule kick in and appear to be very handy...
I&#039;m looking forward to reading your book and wish you all the best.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58612">Peter Bonyai</a>.</p>
<p>With your book you brought that decline closer. They now have a viewpoint in Hungarian with an author who is hard to deny credibility of; language is a big barrier to accessing anything about Cos than church sanctioned or tabloid grade info. Also, do not underestimate the power of your own profile. There are probably plenty of people taking heed of your advice without giving it away or do quite the opposite to survive the transition unscathed or just lessening the damage. Survival routines of 45 years of communist/socialist rule kick in and appear to be very handy&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward to reading your book and wish you all the best.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58716</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 02:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58650&quot;&gt;Peter Bonyai&lt;/a&gt;.

Peter, I&#039;m now 2/3rds through your book, and agree completely with Mike RInder&#039;s assessment it is one of the best for describing the day to day Sea Org life, and you did the hard jobs man!   

It really is an impressive and very funny amid the ridiculousness and illegalities, which you write so well, including the Hungarian lawyers, you are very candid, and your vocabulary is so expressive and accurate!

Really, it&#039;s an impressive book I&#039;d recommend to anyone interested in the intricate day to day life of CLO/OTL execs, and that this all was back to front, meaning OTL was there due to the Flag Hungarian Sea Org member kicked out of the US for visa problems, it all was built on that idea of that staff person.   Back to front, OTL before there were even any Hungarian orgs!

Must read book, I highly recommend it, it goes beyond John Duignan&#039;s book for the regging and it flows well, at least for me, experienced Sea Org bureaucracy &quot;course sup&quot; myself!

It reads sort of like a book that Flag Management already would know all the troubles you were facing though, so it is not new news to them, they had it worse, the CLO staff and Walter had it way worse, as you spoke.

It&#039;s a good book for ex Sea Org members to have a laugh about, and shows Hungary Sea Org OTL like never ever told, for sure!

I hope your book is widely promoted there in Hungary, and they have a good laugh and also causes some shock there!

I&#039;m still not done, great book Peter!   

 chuckbeatty77@aol.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58650">Peter Bonyai</a>.</p>
<p>Peter, I&#8217;m now 2/3rds through your book, and agree completely with Mike RInder&#8217;s assessment it is one of the best for describing the day to day Sea Org life, and you did the hard jobs man!   </p>
<p>It really is an impressive and very funny amid the ridiculousness and illegalities, which you write so well, including the Hungarian lawyers, you are very candid, and your vocabulary is so expressive and accurate!</p>
<p>Really, it&#8217;s an impressive book I&#8217;d recommend to anyone interested in the intricate day to day life of CLO/OTL execs, and that this all was back to front, meaning OTL was there due to the Flag Hungarian Sea Org member kicked out of the US for visa problems, it all was built on that idea of that staff person.   Back to front, OTL before there were even any Hungarian orgs!</p>
<p>Must read book, I highly recommend it, it goes beyond John Duignan&#8217;s book for the regging and it flows well, at least for me, experienced Sea Org bureaucracy &#8220;course sup&#8221; myself!</p>
<p>It reads sort of like a book that Flag Management already would know all the troubles you were facing though, so it is not new news to them, they had it worse, the CLO staff and Walter had it way worse, as you spoke.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good book for ex Sea Org members to have a laugh about, and shows Hungary Sea Org OTL like never ever told, for sure!</p>
<p>I hope your book is widely promoted there in Hungary, and they have a good laugh and also causes some shock there!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not done, great book Peter!   </p>
<p> <a href="mailto:chuckbeatty77@aol.com">chuckbeatty77@aol.com</a></p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58682</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58678&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, Carcha came up with a pretty significant event in 1977...

But I generally agree with you about NED/NOTs/Solo NOTs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58678">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Well, Carcha came up with a pretty significant event in 1977&#8230;</p>
<p>But I generally agree with you about NED/NOTs/Solo NOTs.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58621&quot;&gt;Espiritu&lt;/a&gt;.

+3! Very well stated Espiritu. My sentiments entirely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58621">Espiritu</a>.</p>
<p>+3! Very well stated Espiritu. My sentiments entirely.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58590&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

There is no &quot;altered version of Solo&quot; (NOTs). There is Audited NOTs of 1978 (onwards) and Solo NOTs which first started to be developed in 1980 by LRH. And &quot;the introduction of NED&quot; was also 1978. 

The idea floating about here about &quot;1977&quot; being some sort of watershed (of something or other) is a complete disassociated red herring and not worth discussing or commenting on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/money-power-servitude/#comment-58590">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>There is no &#8220;altered version of Solo&#8221; (NOTs). There is Audited NOTs of 1978 (onwards) and Solo NOTs which first started to be developed in 1980 by LRH. And &#8220;the introduction of NED&#8221; was also 1978. </p>
<p>The idea floating about here about &#8220;1977&#8221; being some sort of watershed (of something or other) is a complete disassociated red herring and not worth discussing or commenting on.</p>
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