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		By: Jp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 22:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-disconnection-hypocrisy/#comment-54042&quot;&gt;meekodev&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. Google Dan Kelly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-disconnection-hypocrisy/#comment-54042">meekodev</a>.</p>
<p>Yes. Google Dan Kelly</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2019 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re-read today.  We need a tab for sexual abuse coverups.  Excellent post Mike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-read today.  We need a tab for sexual abuse coverups.  Excellent post Mike.</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2019 17:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re-read today.  We need a tab for sexual abuse coverups.  Excellent post Mike.  So many names I remember now including 
Jasja who looked about the same as the 2007 picture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-read today.  We need a tab for sexual abuse coverups.  Excellent post Mike.  So many names I remember now including<br />
Jasja who looked about the same as the 2007 picture.</p>
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		By: meekodev		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 23:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great entry Mike. It got me thinking if Scientology would have kept  a member &quot;in&quot; if they had been busted by Perverted-Justice/ Dateline&#039;s To Catch a Predator with Chris Hansen.  My money is on yes.  Interesting all the same]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great entry Mike. It got me thinking if Scientology would have kept  a member &#8220;in&#8221; if they had been busted by Perverted-Justice/ Dateline&#8217;s To Catch a Predator with Chris Hansen.  My money is on yes.  Interesting all the same</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 17:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am sooooo not surprised by this. It&#039;s all in who you know...
I will say that &quot;kids&quot; who disconnect from their parents are confused and misguided. Adults who disconnect from their kids....well that&#039;s just outright evil. A parent choosing this group of criminals over their children? Evil in the extreme.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sooooo not surprised by this. It&#8217;s all in who you know&#8230;<br />
I will say that &#8220;kids&#8221; who disconnect from their parents are confused and misguided. Adults who disconnect from their kids&#8230;.well that&#8217;s just outright evil. A parent choosing this group of criminals over their children? Evil in the extreme.</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 16:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-disconnection-hypocrisy/#comment-53263&quot;&gt;TooDangerous&lt;/a&gt;.

Damn straight, TooDangerous. As Mom-O-3 girls, I have every right to know about creeps like this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-disconnection-hypocrisy/#comment-53263">TooDangerous</a>.</p>
<p>Damn straight, TooDangerous. As Mom-O-3 girls, I have every right to know about creeps like this.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2014 16:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Espiritu,

I agree with you on the fact that everyone has evil intentions and that the FPRD was developed to handle this.  I have done it myself and made gains on it and think that anyone could providing they were willing to avail themselves of the process and approached it honestly.   Even someone who has a bent for children might be helped if they were truly looking for it and wanted to make a change.  They might still think about it but wouldn&#039;t act on it.  I have heard child predators who went through certain treatments talk about this, that they realize the harm they do and with hold themselves from carrying it out.  That is a good thing.

The justice system in the US is not the greatest in protecting children from abusers and in particular, abusive biological parents.    Four years might be considered a lot of time to serve for trolling the internet and not actually completing the act in this case.    I get what you are saying about &quot;how knows&quot; what might have happened.  On top of that, people who do this have to register as sex offenders, which is not an easy life to live after being in prison.

I never accused Jajsha himself of having sex with anyone and commented on the action of using the internet to solicit sex from a minor and then showing up at the meeting place.   I side with the laws of the land here in that I think he demonstrated intention and thus committed a sex crime.  Because of this, I don&#039;t think there is any difference between &quot;intending to do something and actually doing it&quot;, when it comes to protecting kids from child predators. 

You may think I&#039;m harsh and judgmental for thinking the way I do, or that I cannot differentiate between the of intention and completion of an act.  I have pretty strict boundaries on this issue, true.  We might have to agree to disagree on this point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Espiritu,</p>
<p>I agree with you on the fact that everyone has evil intentions and that the FPRD was developed to handle this.  I have done it myself and made gains on it and think that anyone could providing they were willing to avail themselves of the process and approached it honestly.   Even someone who has a bent for children might be helped if they were truly looking for it and wanted to make a change.  They might still think about it but wouldn&#8217;t act on it.  I have heard child predators who went through certain treatments talk about this, that they realize the harm they do and with hold themselves from carrying it out.  That is a good thing.</p>
<p>The justice system in the US is not the greatest in protecting children from abusers and in particular, abusive biological parents.    Four years might be considered a lot of time to serve for trolling the internet and not actually completing the act in this case.    I get what you are saying about &#8220;how knows&#8221; what might have happened.  On top of that, people who do this have to register as sex offenders, which is not an easy life to live after being in prison.</p>
<p>I never accused Jajsha himself of having sex with anyone and commented on the action of using the internet to solicit sex from a minor and then showing up at the meeting place.   I side with the laws of the land here in that I think he demonstrated intention and thus committed a sex crime.  Because of this, I don&#8217;t think there is any difference between &#8220;intending to do something and actually doing it&#8221;, when it comes to protecting kids from child predators. </p>
<p>You may think I&#8217;m harsh and judgmental for thinking the way I do, or that I cannot differentiate between the of intention and completion of an act.  I have pretty strict boundaries on this issue, true.  We might have to agree to disagree on this point.</p>
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		By: Espiritu		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2014 22:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just because he was stopped before he could do it doesn’t lessen it in any way. Legally and morally, the “act” still occurred which is why he’s serving time.&quot;

Pepper, he was definitely in a very dark place and treading on extremely thin ice. But there is actually a big difference both legally and morally between intending to do something and actually doing it. 
This was a sting meant to prevent such crimes and was very effective. But I would hope that if his intentions had been discovered as a result of him actually carrying out such and act that he would be spending a lot more than 4 years in the slammer. 
There is a difference. 
Everyone has had some evil intentions otherwise Ron would never have developed the False Purpose Rundown and Expanded Diantetics. If you know anyone who has never had an evil intention please introduce me to them. Obviously, Jasja has them. How much he is at cause over his nasty impulses we do not know and thankfully did not have to find out. Maybe he will find out some day. We just don&#039;t have data on this or his past. Meanwhile, I don&#039;t know exactly what the sentencing guidelines are, but my guess and hope is that he would be spending decades, not years, behind bars if he had actually molested a child.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just because he was stopped before he could do it doesn’t lessen it in any way. Legally and morally, the “act” still occurred which is why he’s serving time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pepper, he was definitely in a very dark place and treading on extremely thin ice. But there is actually a big difference both legally and morally between intending to do something and actually doing it.<br />
This was a sting meant to prevent such crimes and was very effective. But I would hope that if his intentions had been discovered as a result of him actually carrying out such and act that he would be spending a lot more than 4 years in the slammer.<br />
There is a difference.<br />
Everyone has had some evil intentions otherwise Ron would never have developed the False Purpose Rundown and Expanded Diantetics. If you know anyone who has never had an evil intention please introduce me to them. Obviously, Jasja has them. How much he is at cause over his nasty impulses we do not know and thankfully did not have to find out. Maybe he will find out some day. We just don&#8217;t have data on this or his past. Meanwhile, I don&#8217;t know exactly what the sentencing guidelines are, but my guess and hope is that he would be spending decades, not years, behind bars if he had actually molested a child.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2014 06:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-disconnection-hypocrisy/#comment-53473&quot;&gt;Espiritu&lt;/a&gt;.

Espirtu - I see a big difference between watching porn on the Internet - and I gather that you are referring to ADULT porn versus child porn ie: rape and abuse. This was not some &quot;hey, lets meet and hook up&quot; between adults. 

Adults consent to sex.  Children do not. 

Furthermore, soliciting sex from a minor on the Internet and then showing up at the house prepared to have sex demonstrates the intent to carry it out. Just because he was stopped before he could do it doesn&#039;t lessen it in any way. Legally and morally, the &quot;act&quot; still occurred which is why he&#039;s serving time. 

As far as Mr Jajsha never previously touching a child sexually before, we don&#039;t actually know that.  Hopefully not but child molesters don&#039;t exactly have the best records in that sense and usually start pretty young because that is what they are sexually attracted to in the first place. 

I realize that we all have different viewpoints here in regards to this issue and yes, the point that there&#039;s no SP declare and forced disconnection is a big fail on the church&#039;s part and shows how Miscavige plays favorites.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-disconnection-hypocrisy/#comment-53473">Espiritu</a>.</p>
<p>Espirtu &#8211; I see a big difference between watching porn on the Internet &#8211; and I gather that you are referring to ADULT porn versus child porn ie: rape and abuse. This was not some &#8220;hey, lets meet and hook up&#8221; between adults. </p>
<p>Adults consent to sex.  Children do not. </p>
<p>Furthermore, soliciting sex from a minor on the Internet and then showing up at the house prepared to have sex demonstrates the intent to carry it out. Just because he was stopped before he could do it doesn&#8217;t lessen it in any way. Legally and morally, the &#8220;act&#8221; still occurred which is why he&#8217;s serving time. </p>
<p>As far as Mr Jajsha never previously touching a child sexually before, we don&#8217;t actually know that.  Hopefully not but child molesters don&#8217;t exactly have the best records in that sense and usually start pretty young because that is what they are sexually attracted to in the first place. </p>
<p>I realize that we all have different viewpoints here in regards to this issue and yes, the point that there&#8217;s no SP declare and forced disconnection is a big fail on the church&#8217;s part and shows how Miscavige plays favorites.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2014 05:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-disconnection-hypocrisy/#comment-53435&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

To The Phoenix,

You still don&#039;t get the point and that&#039;s sad. 

Please get off your High Horse with explanations of redemption and rehab.  Go tend to children who have been injured by rape and other methods so some sicko can get his/her kicks.  Take a good look at their bodies and feel their pain, if you can stomach it. I have dealt with these kids and it sickens and grieves me and has kept me awake at night sometimes. 

Sexual predators can not be rehabbed - and I especially mean those sexually attracted to children.  They need to be put on a far-off island somewhere where they can rot as far as I&#039;m concerned. 

You have a problem with a Child molester being labeled yet you don&#039;t have a problem with labeling someone an SP and the way the church meddles with friends and family to disconnect from that labeled person.  Well I think just the opposite.  You apparently don&#039;t understand the legal system either.  None of the data concerning  the man in discussion came from a PC FOLDER.  You are spinning the argument. 

And BTW, I am not a fan of the prison system, nor do I support the Death Penalty either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-disconnection-hypocrisy/#comment-53435">Pepper</a>.</p>
<p>To The Phoenix,</p>
<p>You still don&#8217;t get the point and that&#8217;s sad. </p>
<p>Please get off your High Horse with explanations of redemption and rehab.  Go tend to children who have been injured by rape and other methods so some sicko can get his/her kicks.  Take a good look at their bodies and feel their pain, if you can stomach it. I have dealt with these kids and it sickens and grieves me and has kept me awake at night sometimes. </p>
<p>Sexual predators can not be rehabbed &#8211; and I especially mean those sexually attracted to children.  They need to be put on a far-off island somewhere where they can rot as far as I&#8217;m concerned. </p>
<p>You have a problem with a Child molester being labeled yet you don&#8217;t have a problem with labeling someone an SP and the way the church meddles with friends and family to disconnect from that labeled person.  Well I think just the opposite.  You apparently don&#8217;t understand the legal system either.  None of the data concerning  the man in discussion came from a PC FOLDER.  You are spinning the argument. </p>
<p>And BTW, I am not a fan of the prison system, nor do I support the Death Penalty either.</p>
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