Having been in the SO…. I don’t recall ever once, doing a danger formula on a (or as a) 3rd dynamic….. It has been years since I read the formula, but i do not recall ever seeing something like:

1. bypass your teams’ habits or routines…
2. Handle the danger or any situation in your team.
3. Assign your group / team a danger condition.
4. Get your team to ethics, so they can work on getting their ethics in.
5. Reorganize your team, so the dangerous situation no longer happens on your team.
6. formulate and adopt firm policy for your team…..

….. have you?

You quote the first dynamic formula then waffle on about LRh blaming the individual?

First Dynamic is actually self, more of your MU’s we have to put up with.

If you are going to attempt to ridicule, please get it right mate!

“Not sure if you’ll get this, Cat, but its the Sea Org members who are trained to show lack of empathy. Unlike the Class V org staff.”

I certainly understand your description of how it seemed at the time and your later realizations of the suffering Sea Org members were subjected to. I get how that understanding allowed you to later have compassion even for the abusive behavior you witnessed.

Perhaps what I don’t get is the idea that non-SO Scientologists are not trained out of empathy & compassion. What I gathered from what I’ve read is that the TRs are done on everyone right from the beginning. The main purpose of bull baiting, in my estimation, is to train out empathy — empathy for yourself when it’s being done to you and empathy for the other person when you’re doing it to them. I do understand that there are other kinds of training and also just the effects of constant deprivation and abuse. I can well believe that a chronically sleep-deprived and verbally abused SO member trying to meet impossible expectations would show less empathy than a better rested, less verbally abused staff member. I can also well believe that some Scientologists do not allow their empathy to be trained out of them. (You seem like one of those, as does Paul Haggis.) But it still seems to me that the elimination of empathy is part of the Scientology religious ideology. Sympathy is actually a dirty word. Am I mistaken on that count?

Richard,for the amount of money parishioners pay to get up the bridge and what gets charged to Sea Org members who “blow” (I’m sorry,I am trying not to laugh at the lingo that’s used) ,everyone in Scientology is potentially a victim. Except DM,der kleine mann kind mächtige maus.

Edit: the RPF, not RPR.

I hear you on all, Michal Balint. You have so nailed it.

Glenn and Skyler,

Thanks for your responses and you’re right, via the Birthday Game, the message that gets communicated is, “ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY”. And that’s the wrong message. And so unnecessary, when a furor is created over a few days delay, or even a week or so…I always saw this as nuts – the org is GETTING the money, albeit somewhat LATER…why alienate a customer who is on board. Well, you answered – they’re crazy. Its crazy because the cult is crazy! All about the money, driven by greed, crazy!

Skyler, for whatever its worth, and I’m not proud of it, but I was in the cult for 27 years as a public and I didn’t even know that such a thing as the RPR existed. . I’m not sure how typical that is or was. Just saying.

Thanks so much, jennyfurr. I’m glad that what I wrote might be helpful to others, as it summarized a huge lesson for me. It was a shock to find out, via reading the exScn blogs, that the “cold chrome steel” exterior of the SO was not THEM – as for years I had believed!
And that they actually WERE real, human, caring, NORMAL people! Some of the best people one could find! And that what they projected was what they were REQUIRED as Sea Org members to project. Once understood, this it was a BIG eye opener and a big (personal) relief! And yes, the lesson was definitely not to judge a book by its cover, that concept.