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		By: Komodo Dragon		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293883</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2019 18:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293024&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah he is in a self imposed prison, but he still has a great amount of &quot;Libs&quot;.  He eats the finest food money can buy, exquisite clothing, John Lob shoes, rivers of top shelf Scotch, a very comfy bed, travel to anywhere his black,tiny heart desires, SCUBA dives and freedom to beat on anyone whom has the misfortune to cross his path.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293024">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah he is in a self imposed prison, but he still has a great amount of &#8220;Libs&#8221;.  He eats the finest food money can buy, exquisite clothing, John Lob shoes, rivers of top shelf Scotch, a very comfy bed, travel to anywhere his black,tiny heart desires, SCUBA dives and freedom to beat on anyone whom has the misfortune to cross his path.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2019 19:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293294&quot;&gt;Routedout&lt;/a&gt;.

The Newbies are brainwashed imbeciles from infancy.

The older Still Ins?  The ones in long enough to remember the Green Vols and the Red Vols including the all important Verbal Tech Checklist?
Those old timers who were auditor trained, admin trained?   Xenu only knows?

I have no idea how they justify following Command Intention that clearly perverts and outright violates just about everything LRH wrote about what to do and not do.  Maybe the simple answer, the cliche answer is the correct answer.

Maybe they&#039;re just stupid.

Seriously, I&#039;m not being funny.

Maybe the smart, perceptive, aware ones leave or go UTR, and the ones who stay and go along with this out-tech and off-policy are just stupid. 

I mean, however simplistic,  it sounds, however axe-grinding it appears to dismiss them this way -  it could be true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293294">Routedout</a>.</p>
<p>The Newbies are brainwashed imbeciles from infancy.</p>
<p>The older Still Ins?  The ones in long enough to remember the Green Vols and the Red Vols including the all important Verbal Tech Checklist?<br />
Those old timers who were auditor trained, admin trained?   Xenu only knows?</p>
<p>I have no idea how they justify following Command Intention that clearly perverts and outright violates just about everything LRH wrote about what to do and not do.  Maybe the simple answer, the cliche answer is the correct answer.</p>
<p>Maybe they&#8217;re just stupid.</p>
<p>Seriously, I&#8217;m not being funny.</p>
<p>Maybe the smart, perceptive, aware ones leave or go UTR, and the ones who stay and go along with this out-tech and off-policy are just stupid. </p>
<p>I mean, however simplistic,  it sounds, however axe-grinding it appears to dismiss them this way &#8211;  it could be true.</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2019 17:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293225&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL
I hadn&#039;t noticed]]></description>
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<p>LOL<br />
I hadn&#8217;t noticed</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2019 14:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293294&quot;&gt;Routedout&lt;/a&gt;.

Also, much of what Hubbard wrote in the technical bulletins might be contradictory to what DM is delivering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293294">Routedout</a>.</p>
<p>Also, much of what Hubbard wrote in the technical bulletins might be contradictory to what DM is delivering.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293294&quot;&gt;Routedout&lt;/a&gt;.

Auditor training was separated into theory and practical. Theory was studying the supposed reasons why the processes worked and practical was doing the questions and commands in session. So they apparently dumbed down and summarized the theory part.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293294">Routedout</a>.</p>
<p>Auditor training was separated into theory and practical. Theory was studying the supposed reasons why the processes worked and practical was doing the questions and commands in session. So they apparently dumbed down and summarized the theory part.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293294&quot;&gt;Routedout&lt;/a&gt;.

Routedout - I agree it seems weird but newbies wouldn&#039;t know it was once different. They would probably feel &quot;connected to Source&quot; through books and lectures and the basic auditing processes would continue to produce &quot;wins and cognitions&quot; leading them to continue on the Magical Mystery Tour.]]></description>
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<p>Routedout &#8211; I agree it seems weird but newbies wouldn&#8217;t know it was once different. They would probably feel &#8220;connected to Source&#8221; through books and lectures and the basic auditing processes would continue to produce &#8220;wins and cognitions&#8221; leading them to continue on the Magical Mystery Tour.</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293242&quot;&gt;mwesten&lt;/a&gt;.

@Mike 

Amen to that. 

So not only do they deny the very essence of their religiosity, they sprinkle themselves with sciencey glitter whilst denying logic, evidence and the scientific method. Most odd. 


@PeaceMaker

Yeah, the Kabbalah Centre also springs to mind. Their ridiculously expensive brand of jewish mysticism is promoted as a &quot;science&quot; and a &quot;technology of the soul.&quot; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f637.png" alt="😷" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
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<p>@Mike </p>
<p>Amen to that. </p>
<p>So not only do they deny the very essence of their religiosity, they sprinkle themselves with sciencey glitter whilst denying logic, evidence and the scientific method. Most odd. </p>
<p>@PeaceMaker</p>
<p>Yeah, the Kabbalah Centre also springs to mind. Their ridiculously expensive brand of jewish mysticism is promoted as a &#8220;science&#8221; and a &#8220;technology of the soul.&#8221; 😷</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2019 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293242&quot;&gt;mwesten&lt;/a&gt;.

The true believers of any faith are also equally certain that they have seen healings and miracles as a direct result of kissing the feet of statues, sacrificing animals or whatever their ritual activities may be - including of course the use of admitted &quot;religious artifacts&quot; like E-Meter branded electropsychometers.

There are probably a few lesser-know faiths that would claim to be similarly exact applications, including some of the ones related to the ritual magic of Crowley&#039;s Thelema that Scientology is rooted in, and arguably also the practices of Voodoo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293242">mwesten</a>.</p>
<p>The true believers of any faith are also equally certain that they have seen healings and miracles as a direct result of kissing the feet of statues, sacrificing animals or whatever their ritual activities may be &#8211; including of course the use of admitted &#8220;religious artifacts&#8221; like E-Meter branded electropsychometers.</p>
<p>There are probably a few lesser-know faiths that would claim to be similarly exact applications, including some of the ones related to the ritual magic of Crowley&#8217;s Thelema that Scientology is rooted in, and arguably also the practices of Voodoo.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2019 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293123&quot;&gt;George M. White&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah! So it was you George that Mike disallowed (at first), probably because of the embarrassing comment. Feel free to fork out loads of money with your lawyer - but we all know it is some sort of silly attempt to do, well, I don&#039;t know, but feel free! Mike&#039;s COBber Dave and his lawyer team are waiting with baited breath no doubt. Perhaps Dave should set a lawyer team loose on you for your silly little pamphlet book on &quot;OTVIII&quot;?  (By the way George, I am not an official of the Church - just saved your bacon there eh?)

And please knock off these silly little attempts at introversion such as &quot;check your mind&quot; and the other little suppressive remarks and barbs you drop in to your comments, as covered in many policies re Suppressive Persons. Brian does the same - has no effect.]]></description>
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<p>Ah! So it was you George that Mike disallowed (at first), probably because of the embarrassing comment. Feel free to fork out loads of money with your lawyer &#8211; but we all know it is some sort of silly attempt to do, well, I don&#8217;t know, but feel free! Mike&#8217;s COBber Dave and his lawyer team are waiting with baited breath no doubt. Perhaps Dave should set a lawyer team loose on you for your silly little pamphlet book on &#8220;OTVIII&#8221;?  (By the way George, I am not an official of the Church &#8211; just saved your bacon there eh?)</p>
<p>And please knock off these silly little attempts at introversion such as &#8220;check your mind&#8221; and the other little suppressive remarks and barbs you drop in to your comments, as covered in many policies re Suppressive Persons. Brian does the same &#8211; has no effect.</p>
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		By: Routedout		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2019 21:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-on-ot-ix-and-x/#comment-293093&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Cindy, as far as I know, they train up on the various auditor trading levels with printed packs of material, purportedly based on technical bulletins but not presented that way. They cannot access the original bulletins and have to rely on the presented packs. 

Super weird to older times.]]></description>
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<p>Cindy, as far as I know, they train up on the various auditor trading levels with printed packs of material, purportedly based on technical bulletins but not presented that way. They cannot access the original bulletins and have to rely on the presented packs. </p>
<p>Super weird to older times.</p>
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