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		By: jim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2018 15:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217767&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Aquamarine,

Yeah.  That was just nuts.  I remember being routed off OT2 (1973?) to do a drug rundown per Ron&#039;s new Exec Directive.  I told the DofP she could stuff the DRD up her ass, and that Ron had violated HIS  tech orders re: non-interference areas and PCs running well on their level.  Walking out of AOLA I turned back to the reg and yelled; Ron has gone f***ing nuts!   They never called me on that, maybe because it was true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217767">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Aquamarine,</p>
<p>Yeah.  That was just nuts.  I remember being routed off OT2 (1973?) to do a drug rundown per Ron&#8217;s new Exec Directive.  I told the DofP she could stuff the DRD up her ass, and that Ron had violated HIS  tech orders re: non-interference areas and PCs running well on their level.  Walking out of AOLA I turned back to the reg and yelled; Ron has gone f***ing nuts!   They never called me on that, maybe because it was true.</p>
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		By: whatareyourcrimes		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217843</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2018 10:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217664&quot;&gt;WhatAreYourCrimes&lt;/a&gt;.

(grammar correction... so glad it IS dead).]]></description>
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<p>(grammar correction&#8230; so glad it IS dead).</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle (Secretfornow)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217795</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2018 16:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217767&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

yep.  

It took awhile to get used to the lonnnnng longggg waits at exam.  I used to FN quite quickly so having to wait was disconcerting and worrisome.  

I learned to sit and think pleasant thoughts, think about the &quot;win&quot; I had in session, recall various bits....

I had to practice to keep from just sitting there getting bothered.  I didn&#039;t want to lose time and money taking off a red tag when the session was just fine.  

I swear that after awhile I would get an ARCX FN and that&#039;s what was indicated.

.......
it&#039;s interesting to sit back now and reflect and see the ways I worked around &quot;outpoints&quot; and got my mind right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217767">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>yep.  </p>
<p>It took awhile to get used to the lonnnnng longggg waits at exam.  I used to FN quite quickly so having to wait was disconcerting and worrisome.  </p>
<p>I learned to sit and think pleasant thoughts, think about the &#8220;win&#8221; I had in session, recall various bits&#8230;.</p>
<p>I had to practice to keep from just sitting there getting bothered.  I didn&#8217;t want to lose time and money taking off a red tag when the session was just fine.  </p>
<p>I swear that after awhile I would get an ARCX FN and that&#8217;s what was indicated.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
it&#8217;s interesting to sit back now and reflect and see the ways I worked around &#8220;outpoints&#8221; and got my mind right.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2018 00:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217692&quot;&gt;jim&lt;/a&gt;.

JPC and Jim, this is just my subjective opinion based on my own experience but I think the 3-swing FN rule could have given bad experiences,  and as such discouraged the still ins from wanting more auditing.  

All my auditing was delivered BEFORE the first GAT and thankfully never at Flog and even more thankfully way before the 3 Swing FN rule was implemented.

 I did, however get examinations after various course actions after this 3 Swing thing was put  in place, i see that now.

I&#039;d be at the Examiner either after a course or after some course action which required an Exam.

  I would be asked a question, I&#039;d answer right away,  and then the examiner would not acknowledge or give ANY  indication to me that I&#039;d  said anything - my answer was just ignored, like it was never even heard, let alone understood!

The Examiner would instead  be staring at the E-meter!

This made me nervous!  

Quite so. Thinking,  &quot;I just answered.  Why is he staring at the e-meter?  

And btw I was a good student.  I liked my courses.

  But I just found it odd to be asked a question, i.e., &quot;Are you ready to attest to completion of so and so...?&quot; , and to get NO reply, just the Examiner staring at the Emeter.     Wierd!  Or so I thought. It made me nervous and uncomfortable and slightly fearful.

Now, I can only IMAGINE the bad effect that would have had on me if I were being AUDITED this way!    OMG.  Really bad!

Just my 2, for whatever its worth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217692">jim</a>.</p>
<p>JPC and Jim, this is just my subjective opinion based on my own experience but I think the 3-swing FN rule could have given bad experiences,  and as such discouraged the still ins from wanting more auditing.  </p>
<p>All my auditing was delivered BEFORE the first GAT and thankfully never at Flog and even more thankfully way before the 3 Swing FN rule was implemented.</p>
<p> I did, however get examinations after various course actions after this 3 Swing thing was put  in place, i see that now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be at the Examiner either after a course or after some course action which required an Exam.</p>
<p>  I would be asked a question, I&#8217;d answer right away,  and then the examiner would not acknowledge or give ANY  indication to me that I&#8217;d  said anything &#8211; my answer was just ignored, like it was never even heard, let alone understood!</p>
<p>The Examiner would instead  be staring at the E-meter!</p>
<p>This made me nervous!  </p>
<p>Quite so. Thinking,  &#8220;I just answered.  Why is he staring at the e-meter?  </p>
<p>And btw I was a good student.  I liked my courses.</p>
<p>  But I just found it odd to be asked a question, i.e., &#8220;Are you ready to attest to completion of so and so&#8230;?&#8221; , and to get NO reply, just the Examiner staring at the Emeter.     Wierd!  Or so I thought. It made me nervous and uncomfortable and slightly fearful.</p>
<p>Now, I can only IMAGINE the bad effect that would have had on me if I were being AUDITED this way!    OMG.  Really bad!</p>
<p>Just my 2, for whatever its worth.</p>
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		By: Rod M		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 23:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217727&quot;&gt;Rod M&lt;/a&gt;.

I was watching an episode of Ghost Adventures on hulu, the title is &quot;Secret Scientology Lab&quot;. It&#039;s about the Casa De Rosas compound that was a center of operation in the 1950&#039;s for Hubbard and Dianetics. Jeffrey Augustine stated that his wife Karen left the.  scientology sea org in 1990 because of abuse. Jeffrey said scientology was a culture of punishment and abuse that Hubbard developed at this compund. Hubbard was involved with occult energies and sex rituals, and the &quot;Babylon Working&quot; was the basis for scientology. He was trying to create the moonchild which is the antichrist. Hubbard&#039;s fundamental discovery was power over people and mastered the works of Alister Crowley. Crowley studied &quot;bending entities to you will&quot;. In Hubbards affirmations he supposedly wrote &quot;all men shall be my slaves&quot;. Hubbard learned that he could capture control of a persons &quot;will&quot; through a repetitive process like having you touch something then he would say thank you. He would have the subject repeat this process and he&#039;d say thank you for several hours and he found he could make people submissive to &quot;his will&quot; (mind control).It would appear that the auditing process is where the &quot;mind control&quot; is implemented, and through repetition reinforced. If Hubbard could get you trapped he believed he could get your spiritual energy, he thought by doing this he could magnify himself as an oracle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217727">Rod M</a>.</p>
<p>I was watching an episode of Ghost Adventures on hulu, the title is &#8220;Secret Scientology Lab&#8221;. It&#8217;s about the Casa De Rosas compound that was a center of operation in the 1950&#8217;s for Hubbard and Dianetics. Jeffrey Augustine stated that his wife Karen left the.  scientology sea org in 1990 because of abuse. Jeffrey said scientology was a culture of punishment and abuse that Hubbard developed at this compund. Hubbard was involved with occult energies and sex rituals, and the &#8220;Babylon Working&#8221; was the basis for scientology. He was trying to create the moonchild which is the antichrist. Hubbard&#8217;s fundamental discovery was power over people and mastered the works of Alister Crowley. Crowley studied &#8220;bending entities to you will&#8221;. In Hubbards affirmations he supposedly wrote &#8220;all men shall be my slaves&#8221;. Hubbard learned that he could capture control of a persons &#8220;will&#8221; through a repetitive process like having you touch something then he would say thank you. He would have the subject repeat this process and he&#8217;d say thank you for several hours and he found he could make people submissive to &#8220;his will&#8221; (mind control).It would appear that the auditing process is where the &#8220;mind control&#8221; is implemented, and through repetition reinforced. If Hubbard could get you trapped he believed he could get your spiritual energy, he thought by doing this he could magnify himself as an oracle.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 20:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217707&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Correction!  I didn&#039;t get in until a year or so AFTER Miscavige took over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217707">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Correction!  I didn&#8217;t get in until a year or so AFTER Miscavige took over.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217740</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 19:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217707&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

I get it.  I hear you.  Well, I didn&#039;t get in until a year or so before Miscavige took over,  and was never staff or Sea Org, so I can only speculate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217707">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>I get it.  I hear you.  Well, I didn&#8217;t get in until a year or so before Miscavige took over,  and was never staff or Sea Org, so I can only speculate.</p>
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		By: Rod M		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 16:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217699&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

I see where you&#039;re coming from, he pretended he was a humanist but only because he was in reality a narcissist. He was indeed a very sick and twisted character. His involvement with Jack Parsons (a satanist) and his curiosity about black magic and spirit conjuring proves much of this distorted reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217699">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>I see where you&#8217;re coming from, he pretended he was a humanist but only because he was in reality a narcissist. He was indeed a very sick and twisted character. His involvement with Jack Parsons (a satanist) and his curiosity about black magic and spirit conjuring proves much of this distorted reality.</p>
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		By: Meryl Weiner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 16:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217687&quot;&gt;peterblood71&lt;/a&gt;.

Death&#039;s-Head Revisited is one of my absolute favorite Twilight Zone episodes!  Capt. Lutze is a wonderful comparison to David Miscavige.  It really would be satisfying to know that the evil he&#039;s done has bounced back on him.  I live and hope that this will be the case some day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/more-scientologists-smh/#comment-217687">peterblood71</a>.</p>
<p>Death&#8217;s-Head Revisited is one of my absolute favorite Twilight Zone episodes!  Capt. Lutze is a wonderful comparison to David Miscavige.  It really would be satisfying to know that the evil he&#8217;s done has bounced back on him.  I live and hope that this will be the case some day.</p>
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		By: knusern		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 15:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like a absolute vodka bottle]]></description>
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