That’s it. You’ve been burned. Lesson learned. No one except the most rare individual is again going to “disseminate” to a person they know and bring that someone into the org.

After the “ideal orgs” came into existence, I re-examined some of this phenomena and did a head scratch. From what I could, pre- or post-ideal org, THE LEAST amount of disseminating came from people on their OT levels, including people who had reached the highest available level in Scientology, OT 8.

Seeing the massive amounts of money so many of us sunk into the project, the miles of debt we were in and feverish efforts to pay off our six-figure donations to the almighty “ideal org,” I could not sort out: What kind of success is this if the individuals who made it to the TOP of this “Bridge” make no effort to bring anyone that they KNOW into the org?

Sure, the OT 8’s would run around with a meter at local county fairs or similar to do a “pinch test” and sell a Dianetics book…TO A TOTAL STRANGER. But heartfelt “dissemination” – those enlightenment and handle steps – with a person to get them to begin their journey to “Total Freedom”: Never did I see an OT engage in this; same for people on staff.

The proof, therein, is in the pudding, I began to realize. If the people who should be walking, talking poster children advertisements for the greatness of the experience of being in this group and doing these services take no interest in concretely transmitting the ‘gospel,’ speaks volumes.

It probably still goes on. Warren Brockmann and Ciaran Ryan (“OT VIII”) were in another scam together, a Ponzi scam, and ripped off innocent people of their life savings. Those scientologists who were ripped off were asked by “Ethics” to forgive and forget!

One was a single Mom that I knew had sold her house and wanted the money invested for her children’s tertiary education. She never saw a penny back and in fact, got into trouble with ethics because she was making a fuss! One could ask why she was so stupid but her answer was that she never suspected it of an OT VIII. If you can’t trust an “OT VIII”, who can you trust?

I know that feeling, OSD. I earned Silver Status for donations to Ideal Orgs, not much money by any account but today I’m still p^*ssed off that I gave it!

I soon afterwards, though, made up my mind to never do that again and didn’t. But still, I’d like that money back! 🙁

And I just thought he had a helluva sense of humour! 🙂

I heard from someone who heard from someone close to them in the SO, that there are a couple of thousand people who’ve blown OT 7.

I cringe at words like “rave results”.

I would like to see people “raving” less and seeing more that there’s little to no improvement in their lives, in fact, in spite of feelings of the infamous scientology euphoria.

I used to come out of session “flying”, beaming from ear to ear, walking on air, so to speak. BUT. My life didn’t get better. It went from bad to worse.

Wasn’t it stated some time ago that Miscavige’s real intent is to ruin scn which he’s doing proudly.

Willie, Are you Willie lNewman?

Thankfully, there are people in the field who have been auditors for 30, 40 years and more, and who just go about the business of auditing. The ones I speak of are getting rave results from their pc’s. Granted, there isn’t alot of auditors, but these are the people I admire, along with the whistle blowers. As far as anything else, I have my area of help, and I work with actual PROFESSIONALS, rather than people who think they have all the answers and reject others.

Well julia, you can do it the way YOU want to now. No one is stopping people from delivering scamology outside the “church”.

Time time to test your ideas in the real world…