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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/neil-sarfati-hits-the-big-time/#comment-453183</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 06:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/neil-sarfati-hits-the-big-time/#comment-453109&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Whoops, this comment is going to make no sense because it belongs to today&#039;s Thursday Funnies, not yesterday&#039;s article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/neil-sarfati-hits-the-big-time/#comment-453109">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Whoops, this comment is going to make no sense because it belongs to today&#8217;s Thursday Funnies, not yesterday&#8217;s article.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 23:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Enjoy a romantic evening in the grip of the regges&quot;.  

No more acutely spot on snark has ever been written. 

Talk about putting a damper on all things romantic, an evening a deux with a Scientology registrar works far better than an ice cold shower.

But then, that&#039;s the idea, isn&#039;t it? 

In its promo and policy CO$ purports to love and support it,  but in practice our favorite cult hates,  undermines and destroys the &quot;2nd dynamic&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Enjoy a romantic evening in the grip of the regges&#8221;.  </p>
<p>No more acutely spot on snark has ever been written. </p>
<p>Talk about putting a damper on all things romantic, an evening a deux with a Scientology registrar works far better than an ice cold shower.</p>
<p>But then, that&#8217;s the idea, isn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>In its promo and policy CO$ purports to love and support it,  but in practice our favorite cult hates,  undermines and destroys the &#8220;2nd dynamic&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Loosing my Religion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loosing my Religion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 10:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[STAND acts exactly as hubbard describes the hypothetical reactive mind in dianetics: stimulus-response (reactive).
This frontgroup has nothing rational, it is just a &quot;bank&quot; always attive spiting hate and lying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STAND acts exactly as hubbard describes the hypothetical reactive mind in dianetics: stimulus-response (reactive).<br />
This frontgroup has nothing rational, it is just a &#8220;bank&#8221; always attive spiting hate and lying.</p>
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		By: Karl Woodrow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl Woodrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 09:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neil, I remember your playing on the Power of Source album !  After listening to the album I wrote to LRH with a rave review and told him that you were a &quot;one-man-intergalactic-space-orchestra&quot; all by yourself! 
     Obviously you were already a member of the &quot;Church of Music&quot; before you ever heard of the CO$.  Glad you kept playing your ax. And glad you made your way out of what devolved into a blatant cult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil, I remember your playing on the Power of Source album !  After listening to the album I wrote to LRH with a rave review and told him that you were a &#8220;one-man-intergalactic-space-orchestra&#8221; all by yourself!<br />
     Obviously you were already a member of the &#8220;Church of Music&#8221; before you ever heard of the CO$.  Glad you kept playing your ax. And glad you made your way out of what devolved into a blatant cult.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 04:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yo Martin Landon -

Earth to you, to STAND and to your cult:

Ex-Sea Org Members&#039;  stories ARE colorful.
They are FANTASTIC.
They ARE &quot;beyond belief&quot;.
Exciting, suspenseful,  riveting!
Wild AND woolly, baby!

Plus, they are TRUE.

These people, many of them, went thru hell and lived to tell about it, 

Mr. Sarfati is only one of them.

Quite a number of Ex-SOs with fantastic, horrifying, seemingly incredible yet TRUE experiences are still around capable of sharing what they went thru in Scientology with the general public.

And they are perfectly at liberty to do so.

People LIKE to be amazed and shocked.

It makes good TV and interesting press - which you well know.  And the Church of Scientology is no slouch in dishing out whatever they can get away with about people it doesn&#039;t like.  CO$ dishes it out but good, as you well know.

So put down the pearls, Mr. Landon.
Get over it, OK?
Stop clutching your pearls.
Tell Dwarf to stop clutching his.
Deal with it.

It might help for you to clear the phrase &quot;news-worthy&quot;.

Be sure to use it in a lot of sentences for full conceptual understanding.

Much love,
Aqua]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Martin Landon &#8211;</p>
<p>Earth to you, to STAND and to your cult:</p>
<p>Ex-Sea Org Members&#8217;  stories ARE colorful.<br />
They are FANTASTIC.<br />
They ARE &#8220;beyond belief&#8221;.<br />
Exciting, suspenseful,  riveting!<br />
Wild AND woolly, baby!</p>
<p>Plus, they are TRUE.</p>
<p>These people, many of them, went thru hell and lived to tell about it, </p>
<p>Mr. Sarfati is only one of them.</p>
<p>Quite a number of Ex-SOs with fantastic, horrifying, seemingly incredible yet TRUE experiences are still around capable of sharing what they went thru in Scientology with the general public.</p>
<p>And they are perfectly at liberty to do so.</p>
<p>People LIKE to be amazed and shocked.</p>
<p>It makes good TV and interesting press &#8211; which you well know.  And the Church of Scientology is no slouch in dishing out whatever they can get away with about people it doesn&#8217;t like.  CO$ dishes it out but good, as you well know.</p>
<p>So put down the pearls, Mr. Landon.<br />
Get over it, OK?<br />
Stop clutching your pearls.<br />
Tell Dwarf to stop clutching his.<br />
Deal with it.</p>
<p>It might help for you to clear the phrase &#8220;news-worthy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Be sure to use it in a lot of sentences for full conceptual understanding.</p>
<p>Much love,<br />
Aqua</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 01:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/neil-sarfati-hits-the-big-time/#comment-452937&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, she is standing. Dede is sitting next to him. 

Annie to the far left. Then Dan Auerbach. Hubbard. Dede. David Rossouw. Standing is Russ Meadows, Laurel and Tony Strawn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/neil-sarfati-hits-the-big-time/#comment-452937">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, she is standing. Dede is sitting next to him. </p>
<p>Annie to the far left. Then Dan Auerbach. Hubbard. Dede. David Rossouw. Standing is Russ Meadows, Laurel and Tony Strawn.</p>
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		By: jim rowles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jim rowles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 00:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/neil-sarfati-hits-the-big-time/#comment-452922&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

You are so right Joe.  The sea-orgers don&#039;t have time to read it, and public are not much inclined to read stuff that&#039;s not source.  That leaves us sp-ers at Mike&#039;s blog and MAYBE the same number of die hards grasping at anything .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/neil-sarfati-hits-the-big-time/#comment-452922">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>You are so right Joe.  The sea-orgers don&#8217;t have time to read it, and public are not much inclined to read stuff that&#8217;s not source.  That leaves us sp-ers at Mike&#8217;s blog and MAYBE the same number of die hards grasping at anything .</p>
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		By: ExScnStaff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ExScnStaff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2022 23:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good grief.  I was curious to see the article on STAND&#039;s site.  Instead, the top thing I see is some book on &quot;priest-penitent confidentiality&quot;.

What protections exist when the religion violates that priest-penitent confidentiality against members or ex-members, particularly for the purposes of blackmail and extortion?  If I went into a confessional at a Catholic church and told the priest about a bunch of sins, no one would be sitting me down later and saying &quot;Do you still do this sin?&quot; or realizing I was never a Catholic and publishing those things I admitted to.

Outside of Scientology, any use of priest-penitent confidentiality tends to be about not forcing priests to share what they&#039;ve been told.  In Scientology, priest-penitent confidentiality is  routinely violated to produce evidence against the &#039;penitent&#039; and used to block court access to documents that could be used as evidence against them.

As for Neil Sarfati, many lulz that they tried using the &quot;He weren&#039;t nothing without us&quot; line, as if his volunteered musical talent wasn&#039;t what drew the attention they (LRH, ship crew) were sponging off of rather than the other way around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief.  I was curious to see the article on STAND&#8217;s site.  Instead, the top thing I see is some book on &#8220;priest-penitent confidentiality&#8221;.</p>
<p>What protections exist when the religion violates that priest-penitent confidentiality against members or ex-members, particularly for the purposes of blackmail and extortion?  If I went into a confessional at a Catholic church and told the priest about a bunch of sins, no one would be sitting me down later and saying &#8220;Do you still do this sin?&#8221; or realizing I was never a Catholic and publishing those things I admitted to.</p>
<p>Outside of Scientology, any use of priest-penitent confidentiality tends to be about not forcing priests to share what they&#8217;ve been told.  In Scientology, priest-penitent confidentiality is  routinely violated to produce evidence against the &#8216;penitent&#8217; and used to block court access to documents that could be used as evidence against them.</p>
<p>As for Neil Sarfati, many lulz that they tried using the &#8220;He weren&#8217;t nothing without us&#8221; line, as if his volunteered musical talent wasn&#8217;t what drew the attention they (LRH, ship crew) were sponging off of rather than the other way around.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2022 23:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is great Neil, thanks for the history.

When I hit the RPF in 1996, Kenny Campelman was the security at the ranch where the RPF was.   

Old Apollo era Sea Org members always had a slight normal laxness to them, they just didn&#039;t have the full blown fanaticism of the David Miscavige era downtrodden Sea Orgers.

I fell somewhere in between, never being on the Apollo, and being a newbie Sea Org member at Clearwater in Dec 1975 when you Apollo vets who&#039;d all rubbed elbows with LRH were deciding what to do next in life.

SO many Apollo vets all jumped ship in the next 4 years, so by 1980, I&#039;ll bet most of those that came over from Daytona, were out.

I should have taken the hint.

I wasted another 20 years til it was just not happening, no &quot;OTs&quot; nowhere.

The Hubbard &quot;OT&quot; scam, and Hubbard we learn later, he didn&#039;t get much out of his own quackery either.

Figures.   My career in Sea Org, since I became an admin course sup, I define that job as cult bureaucrat training department.   

Thanks for standing and really earning Hubbard&#039;s real Knighthood, you were the original Joking and Degrader.   True isn&#039;t it?   I recall when the J and D PL came out, you&#039;d blown then, and that PL I&#039;d heard was LRH&#039;s way of justifying how you left (him and his ship of fools who stayed).  

People quit and quit, even those closest to Hubbard, quit.   All the high ups, all quit.

Hey Neil, how much did Norman Starkey play in your gigs?    

The bongos, thats Tom Rodriquez.   Charlie was drums, and did Norman play a little too?

In the one photo, who is on the guitar in the rear right, is that Chuck Murray?

I see PJ Severnsen, and Dan Auerbach on the ukelele.   And Luten on trombone and Russ Meadows on guitar, and Tamia on guiter and Craig Ferrera on guitar.   Lotta guitars.

I liked your jamming, you guys did some 1976 event jamming at the Fort Harrison I remember. 

- Chuck Beatty, xTeamXenu 75 to 03

Is that Laurel Sullivan next to LRH?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great Neil, thanks for the history.</p>
<p>When I hit the RPF in 1996, Kenny Campelman was the security at the ranch where the RPF was.   </p>
<p>Old Apollo era Sea Org members always had a slight normal laxness to them, they just didn&#8217;t have the full blown fanaticism of the David Miscavige era downtrodden Sea Orgers.</p>
<p>I fell somewhere in between, never being on the Apollo, and being a newbie Sea Org member at Clearwater in Dec 1975 when you Apollo vets who&#8217;d all rubbed elbows with LRH were deciding what to do next in life.</p>
<p>SO many Apollo vets all jumped ship in the next 4 years, so by 1980, I&#8217;ll bet most of those that came over from Daytona, were out.</p>
<p>I should have taken the hint.</p>
<p>I wasted another 20 years til it was just not happening, no &#8220;OTs&#8221; nowhere.</p>
<p>The Hubbard &#8220;OT&#8221; scam, and Hubbard we learn later, he didn&#8217;t get much out of his own quackery either.</p>
<p>Figures.   My career in Sea Org, since I became an admin course sup, I define that job as cult bureaucrat training department.   </p>
<p>Thanks for standing and really earning Hubbard&#8217;s real Knighthood, you were the original Joking and Degrader.   True isn&#8217;t it?   I recall when the J and D PL came out, you&#8217;d blown then, and that PL I&#8217;d heard was LRH&#8217;s way of justifying how you left (him and his ship of fools who stayed).  </p>
<p>People quit and quit, even those closest to Hubbard, quit.   All the high ups, all quit.</p>
<p>Hey Neil, how much did Norman Starkey play in your gigs?    </p>
<p>The bongos, thats Tom Rodriquez.   Charlie was drums, and did Norman play a little too?</p>
<p>In the one photo, who is on the guitar in the rear right, is that Chuck Murray?</p>
<p>I see PJ Severnsen, and Dan Auerbach on the ukelele.   And Luten on trombone and Russ Meadows on guitar, and Tamia on guiter and Craig Ferrera on guitar.   Lotta guitars.</p>
<p>I liked your jamming, you guys did some 1976 event jamming at the Fort Harrison I remember. </p>
<p>&#8211; Chuck Beatty, xTeamXenu 75 to 03</p>
<p>Is that Laurel Sullivan next to LRH?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[They are a bunch of toothless yappy little dogs.

S(quealing)
T(oadies)
A(nd)
A(rseholian) 
D(ipshits)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are a bunch of toothless yappy little dogs.</p>
<p>S(quealing)<br />
T(oadies)<br />
A(nd)<br />
A(rseholian)<br />
D(ipshits)</p>
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