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		By: Mick Wenlock		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is amusing to have followed this &quot;Ideal Org&quot; scam throughout the years. IIRC original policy from Hubbard concerning buildings was all about a) affordability b) location/foot traffic. Affordability was the key. There was also, again IIRC, the admonition that in terms of losses &quot;two moves equals a fire&quot;. 

Back when the IAS was getting started (and I apologize to everyone who ever got regged by our tours at the outset of this boondoggle)  we thought that the level of Patron that we proposed ($40,000) was insane and only about 10 people MAX would ever sign up for it -  which shows how dumb we were. Not sure if you remember Mike that DM had Carol Titus join the NRA to get their promotional and fundraising material to understand how getting people to give the first &quot;donation&quot; is the hardest step - getting them to keep giving is much easier.

Then came the Freewinds boondoggle.

And then, I think - without any direct proof - came the problem of maintaining that income flow and someone in DMs &quot;wog advisors&quot;, and I assume that it was not Jacob Arrevad, pointed to Real Estate as a good place to store the monetary assets that were just sitting there to be plucked from the wallets and purses of the dwindling number of the faithful]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amusing to have followed this &#8220;Ideal Org&#8221; scam throughout the years. IIRC original policy from Hubbard concerning buildings was all about a) affordability b) location/foot traffic. Affordability was the key. There was also, again IIRC, the admonition that in terms of losses &#8220;two moves equals a fire&#8221;. </p>
<p>Back when the IAS was getting started (and I apologize to everyone who ever got regged by our tours at the outset of this boondoggle)  we thought that the level of Patron that we proposed ($40,000) was insane and only about 10 people MAX would ever sign up for it &#8211;  which shows how dumb we were. Not sure if you remember Mike that DM had Carol Titus join the NRA to get their promotional and fundraising material to understand how getting people to give the first &#8220;donation&#8221; is the hardest step &#8211; getting them to keep giving is much easier.</p>
<p>Then came the Freewinds boondoggle.</p>
<p>And then, I think &#8211; without any direct proof &#8211; came the problem of maintaining that income flow and someone in DMs &#8220;wog advisors&#8221;, and I assume that it was not Jacob Arrevad, pointed to Real Estate as a good place to store the monetary assets that were just sitting there to be plucked from the wallets and purses of the dwindling number of the faithful</p>
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		By: Xenos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515407&quot;&gt;Mick Wenlock&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mick - the advertisement is uploaded as a clip on YouTube. YouTube counter has increased since I.posted the message on the 6th to now be reading 32 million views therefore over a million per day in the past few days. 

If pop up views are linked to the YouTube counter then that may explain the rapid counter increase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515407">Mick Wenlock</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mick &#8211; the advertisement is uploaded as a clip on YouTube. YouTube counter has increased since I.posted the message on the 6th to now be reading 32 million views therefore over a million per day in the past few days. </p>
<p>If pop up views are linked to the YouTube counter then that may explain the rapid counter increase.</p>
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		By: Mick Wenlock		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515192&quot;&gt;Xenos&lt;/a&gt;.

where is the Ad? If you are referring to the Scn  Ad that popped up in my feed the other day the answer it fairly simple. Scn is buying ads and counting them as viewed when someone is exposed to them. Different from the amount of views of bands.

Not sure if that addresses your question for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515192">Xenos</a>.</p>
<p>where is the Ad? If you are referring to the Scn  Ad that popped up in my feed the other day the answer it fairly simple. Scn is buying ads and counting them as viewed when someone is exposed to them. Different from the amount of views of bands.</p>
<p>Not sure if that addresses your question for you.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeattyLongTermDupe		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seriously Mike,

Two important LRH refs, I have repeatedly mentioned on your blog, and other chat sites, which are relevant, to the long range Hubbard motives:

a) In one of the &quot;Tech Films&quot; is the advertisement for the &quot;Scientology Passport&quot; which is a parallel long range idea.   Hubbard in the &quot;Scientology Passport&quot; &quot;advices&quot; of which there are one or two, and I think it was Theresa Locke, Dan Locke&#039;s ex, who was charged with implementing the &quot;Scientology Passport&quot; marketing campaign, etc.   The bottom line, the &quot;Tech Film&quot; ad for the &quot;Scientology Passport&quot; while troublesome to logically implement, still gives LRH&#039;s hopes that future lives young people will waltz into Scientology &quot;Orgs&quot; of the future, as depicted in this advertisement which is in this one &quot;Tech Film&quot;.   The young wanna be Scientologists says &quot;I&#039;m back&quot; meaning returned in his new young life, wishing to continue up the Bridge from the point he left off his last life!!!   This is not a minor point, it&#039;s what a true blue logical full blown Scientologist who does know that if they have NOT completed the Bridge this lifetime, and even if they did, they will come back, in their next lifetime, to continue on the Bridge.   THUS, finally to the point, the Ideal Orgs, or ANY Org left standing, is where they will go.   Per this LRH ad!   
Thus:  It is LRH&#039;s intent, for there to be orgs, for future lives Scientologists to go to.   This is NOT a point to to just ignore, it&#039;s in Hubbard&#039;s final content for the movement.   The &quot;Scientology Passport&quot; fits in, as it is a document which the Scientologist can keep filling in, and update their progress, to the end of their lives, and either send their Scientology Passport to their nearest org where they might &quot;return&quot; to as a young next lifetime Scientology, or whatever they decide.   I make this point year in year out, in relation to the hardcore future lives believing Scientologist, if they are totally on board with ALL that LRH wrote to help them go on with these ideas and their goal to get up the full LRH Bridge.

b) The even greater context, another Tech Film, is the &quot;Why TRs&quot; movie, which to this date, no one is really digging into the LRH motives and intent in that Tech Film either.   But there is much to glean from the Class 6 Briefing Course &quot;Tech Film&quot; &quot;Why TRs&quot; which is LRH&#039;s script.   The core theme is Class 6s must diligently study the &quot;basics&quot; of the tech, so as to remember them in future lives, when the returned Scientologist finds themselves on a distant planet, returned to a young person&#039;s body, and wishing to get Scientology going there, and they will need to do so from memory.   A huge incentive, to those who hardcore believe in future lives, and who are dedicated to LRH&#039;s tech to remember it, in future lives, and implement by their own memory.

Above is truly hardcore LRH thinking.   It&#039;s how I was thinking when I was in, and I was just left right and center disappointed fellow Scientologists, mostly were not of the same mindset.

I don&#039;t think like that now, but what I just wrote, are two truly hardcore LRH final intentions for ALL Scientologists.

And tie these two LRH references above into the other final long range writings, you see how possibly the most hardcore theoretical believers would be &quot;on source&quot; to think about.

The &quot;Ideal Orgs&quot; one can minimally do all the Hubbard study, using the 1990s and later edition new &quot;Drills Binders&quot; for all the hardest core Hubbard theory and practical courses, like the Levels (lower levels) and NED course.   And internships.   And the &quot;basics&quot; books and congresses, and all the other peripheral courses are all to be the base, to then get all through all this, before getting up to the regional &quot;Advanced Orgs&quot; or &quot;Saint Hill&quot; orgs at the regional level, and do the Class 6 course, and then the Scientologists learn of the &quot;Tech Film&quot; &quot;Why TRs&quot; and LRH&#039;s intention t have the &quot;Dukes of Technology&quot; (Class 6 Briefing Course) graduates, take on this huge responsibility to have the tech so well in their heads, they can implement it in future lives on other planets.   (And this ties into the Hubbard even grander writing about how by implementing the LRH &quot;tech&quot; that a org/orgs/Flag does, is part of a huge long into the future undwindling of the whole physical universe, this is one huge long range Hubbard intent writing, among the many other final years writings by Hubbard that get no shrift anywhere, no one is giving Scientology the LRH viewpoint most hopeful wishful thinking, as Miscavige&#039;s blather is just sickeningly superficial and egotistical crap of him going me me me, I&#039;m the boss now, when Scientology is LRH, and Miscavige ought to just NOT be me me me spoiler dominating figure hotshot stealing LRH&#039;s intentions off the menu.)

I don&#039;t believe in any of this, but LRH&#039;s fuller writings and the Tech Films, and some choice advices from the ASI advices and the INCOMM advices, give LRH&#039;s grander views, which Miscavige to date has squeezed of of the scene, so Scientologists can&#039;t &quot;get up&quot; to LRH&#039;s mindset, frankly.

Scientology is a soul karma repair therapy, and soul karma exorcism repair practice, really.   It&#039;s supposed to be this huge long fixup of our soul &quot;cases&quot; (or own &quot;case&quot; and the &quot;cases&quot; of the body-thetans leaking onto us once we have even &quot;Cleared&quot; our own &quot;case&quot;).  

If the human soul really is real, I don&#039;t believe it is, but if it were real, then the Hubbard &quot;case&quot; soul karma therapy and the Hubbard exorcism, could make sense.

it doesn&#039;t, but this does fit into the Ideal Orgs&#039; existence, and why they will continue, if any of the Scientology now or future leaders are tracking with Hubbard&#039;s intentions, especially the context I laid out above.

It all sounds like fantasy, but the concept of a soul, and we being each a soul, and we possibly transmigrating to another humanoid body in a future life, is not something new and not something out of the question.   (It is to me today, but people do still believe in future lives, past lives, and also into spirits who don&#039;t have bodies who interact with us humans, spiritualism, which to me is hallucination or extreme imagination on our parts and not real, but some people can believe it.).  Trained Scientologists can grasp all I&#039;ve said above.   

I grasped it when I was in, and that&#039;s why when I was a Scientologist, and I read everything Hubbard wrote, it did at least make sense.

To me today, a few of the older timer Scientologists of the 1960s and 1950s, their views to me are the wisest.   In a nutshell, Alan Walter said the Sea Org was a mistake, and Missions ought to have been the end all of Scientology&#039;s echelon framework.   Skip Orgs, skip the Sea Org, and only be a mission.

Sort of like the Dror Center today, that&#039;s about it.   Have a &quot;Mission&quot; that is self sustaining, does the whole stepladder, and has no oversight management, but only has competing and colleagues of similar framework, and only have Field Auditors mostly, who are like Trey Lotz, if they can rise to that level of competency.   And just squirrels left right and center, all competing.   Completing &quot;squirrels&quot; doing whatever degree of the quack pseudo-therapy and exorcism they want and can sell, on their own mainly.

Official Scientology is a nasty ruinous operation, something that probably cannot sustain.   Thus Ideal Orgs will long range go by the wayside.   Even though as I said above, they do have LRH theoretical backing, as Ideal Orgs with &quot;managements&quot; dissemination help and the Sea Org&#039;s maintenance renoing them, and all the upkeeping done, &quot;makes sense.&quot;   It for sure is as has been pointed out, by everyone, not gaining newbies.

And the splinter Scientologists aren&#039;t particularly advertising, other than word of mouth.   

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Mike,   Say something sometime about &quot;Flag Relative Importances&quot; Central Bureaux Order (CBO I forget which number) .   What is relevant is LRH put &quot;Orgs&quot; as number one, as Flag&#039;s top relative important focus.   Orgs are tops.   (That LRH placing Orgs tops, might be wrong.).  

Thus Miscavige focusing on the more doable &quot;Ideal Orgs&quot; vs &quot;Saint Hill Sized Orgs&quot; as the number one focus goal, is lessening the steep gradient per that big Hubbard principle.   

I say all this only as Hubbard&#039;s devil advocate.  It&#039;s all quackery bunkum to me, but LRH&#039;s goals to put a continuing emphasis on orgs (Saint Hill sized, or Ideal, or &quot;small and failing orgs&quot; LOL).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously Mike,</p>
<p>Two important LRH refs, I have repeatedly mentioned on your blog, and other chat sites, which are relevant, to the long range Hubbard motives:</p>
<p>a) In one of the &#8220;Tech Films&#8221; is the advertisement for the &#8220;Scientology Passport&#8221; which is a parallel long range idea.   Hubbard in the &#8220;Scientology Passport&#8221; &#8220;advices&#8221; of which there are one or two, and I think it was Theresa Locke, Dan Locke&#8217;s ex, who was charged with implementing the &#8220;Scientology Passport&#8221; marketing campaign, etc.   The bottom line, the &#8220;Tech Film&#8221; ad for the &#8220;Scientology Passport&#8221; while troublesome to logically implement, still gives LRH&#8217;s hopes that future lives young people will waltz into Scientology &#8220;Orgs&#8221; of the future, as depicted in this advertisement which is in this one &#8220;Tech Film&#8221;.   The young wanna be Scientologists says &#8220;I&#8217;m back&#8221; meaning returned in his new young life, wishing to continue up the Bridge from the point he left off his last life!!!   This is not a minor point, it&#8217;s what a true blue logical full blown Scientologist who does know that if they have NOT completed the Bridge this lifetime, and even if they did, they will come back, in their next lifetime, to continue on the Bridge.   THUS, finally to the point, the Ideal Orgs, or ANY Org left standing, is where they will go.   Per this LRH ad!<br />
Thus:  It is LRH&#8217;s intent, for there to be orgs, for future lives Scientologists to go to.   This is NOT a point to to just ignore, it&#8217;s in Hubbard&#8217;s final content for the movement.   The &#8220;Scientology Passport&#8221; fits in, as it is a document which the Scientologist can keep filling in, and update their progress, to the end of their lives, and either send their Scientology Passport to their nearest org where they might &#8220;return&#8221; to as a young next lifetime Scientology, or whatever they decide.   I make this point year in year out, in relation to the hardcore future lives believing Scientologist, if they are totally on board with ALL that LRH wrote to help them go on with these ideas and their goal to get up the full LRH Bridge.</p>
<p>b) The even greater context, another Tech Film, is the &#8220;Why TRs&#8221; movie, which to this date, no one is really digging into the LRH motives and intent in that Tech Film either.   But there is much to glean from the Class 6 Briefing Course &#8220;Tech Film&#8221; &#8220;Why TRs&#8221; which is LRH&#8217;s script.   The core theme is Class 6s must diligently study the &#8220;basics&#8221; of the tech, so as to remember them in future lives, when the returned Scientologist finds themselves on a distant planet, returned to a young person&#8217;s body, and wishing to get Scientology going there, and they will need to do so from memory.   A huge incentive, to those who hardcore believe in future lives, and who are dedicated to LRH&#8217;s tech to remember it, in future lives, and implement by their own memory.</p>
<p>Above is truly hardcore LRH thinking.   It&#8217;s how I was thinking when I was in, and I was just left right and center disappointed fellow Scientologists, mostly were not of the same mindset.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think like that now, but what I just wrote, are two truly hardcore LRH final intentions for ALL Scientologists.</p>
<p>And tie these two LRH references above into the other final long range writings, you see how possibly the most hardcore theoretical believers would be &#8220;on source&#8221; to think about.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Ideal Orgs&#8221; one can minimally do all the Hubbard study, using the 1990s and later edition new &#8220;Drills Binders&#8221; for all the hardest core Hubbard theory and practical courses, like the Levels (lower levels) and NED course.   And internships.   And the &#8220;basics&#8221; books and congresses, and all the other peripheral courses are all to be the base, to then get all through all this, before getting up to the regional &#8220;Advanced Orgs&#8221; or &#8220;Saint Hill&#8221; orgs at the regional level, and do the Class 6 course, and then the Scientologists learn of the &#8220;Tech Film&#8221; &#8220;Why TRs&#8221; and LRH&#8217;s intention t have the &#8220;Dukes of Technology&#8221; (Class 6 Briefing Course) graduates, take on this huge responsibility to have the tech so well in their heads, they can implement it in future lives on other planets.   (And this ties into the Hubbard even grander writing about how by implementing the LRH &#8220;tech&#8221; that a org/orgs/Flag does, is part of a huge long into the future undwindling of the whole physical universe, this is one huge long range Hubbard intent writing, among the many other final years writings by Hubbard that get no shrift anywhere, no one is giving Scientology the LRH viewpoint most hopeful wishful thinking, as Miscavige&#8217;s blather is just sickeningly superficial and egotistical crap of him going me me me, I&#8217;m the boss now, when Scientology is LRH, and Miscavige ought to just NOT be me me me spoiler dominating figure hotshot stealing LRH&#8217;s intentions off the menu.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe in any of this, but LRH&#8217;s fuller writings and the Tech Films, and some choice advices from the ASI advices and the INCOMM advices, give LRH&#8217;s grander views, which Miscavige to date has squeezed of of the scene, so Scientologists can&#8217;t &#8220;get up&#8221; to LRH&#8217;s mindset, frankly.</p>
<p>Scientology is a soul karma repair therapy, and soul karma exorcism repair practice, really.   It&#8217;s supposed to be this huge long fixup of our soul &#8220;cases&#8221; (or own &#8220;case&#8221; and the &#8220;cases&#8221; of the body-thetans leaking onto us once we have even &#8220;Cleared&#8221; our own &#8220;case&#8221;).  </p>
<p>If the human soul really is real, I don&#8217;t believe it is, but if it were real, then the Hubbard &#8220;case&#8221; soul karma therapy and the Hubbard exorcism, could make sense.</p>
<p>it doesn&#8217;t, but this does fit into the Ideal Orgs&#8217; existence, and why they will continue, if any of the Scientology now or future leaders are tracking with Hubbard&#8217;s intentions, especially the context I laid out above.</p>
<p>It all sounds like fantasy, but the concept of a soul, and we being each a soul, and we possibly transmigrating to another humanoid body in a future life, is not something new and not something out of the question.   (It is to me today, but people do still believe in future lives, past lives, and also into spirits who don&#8217;t have bodies who interact with us humans, spiritualism, which to me is hallucination or extreme imagination on our parts and not real, but some people can believe it.).  Trained Scientologists can grasp all I&#8217;ve said above.   </p>
<p>I grasped it when I was in, and that&#8217;s why when I was a Scientologist, and I read everything Hubbard wrote, it did at least make sense.</p>
<p>To me today, a few of the older timer Scientologists of the 1960s and 1950s, their views to me are the wisest.   In a nutshell, Alan Walter said the Sea Org was a mistake, and Missions ought to have been the end all of Scientology&#8217;s echelon framework.   Skip Orgs, skip the Sea Org, and only be a mission.</p>
<p>Sort of like the Dror Center today, that&#8217;s about it.   Have a &#8220;Mission&#8221; that is self sustaining, does the whole stepladder, and has no oversight management, but only has competing and colleagues of similar framework, and only have Field Auditors mostly, who are like Trey Lotz, if they can rise to that level of competency.   And just squirrels left right and center, all competing.   Completing &#8220;squirrels&#8221; doing whatever degree of the quack pseudo-therapy and exorcism they want and can sell, on their own mainly.</p>
<p>Official Scientology is a nasty ruinous operation, something that probably cannot sustain.   Thus Ideal Orgs will long range go by the wayside.   Even though as I said above, they do have LRH theoretical backing, as Ideal Orgs with &#8220;managements&#8221; dissemination help and the Sea Org&#8217;s maintenance renoing them, and all the upkeeping done, &#8220;makes sense.&#8221;   It for sure is as has been pointed out, by everyone, not gaining newbies.</p>
<p>And the splinter Scientologists aren&#8217;t particularly advertising, other than word of mouth.   </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Mike,   Say something sometime about &#8220;Flag Relative Importances&#8221; Central Bureaux Order (CBO I forget which number) .   What is relevant is LRH put &#8220;Orgs&#8221; as number one, as Flag&#8217;s top relative important focus.   Orgs are tops.   (That LRH placing Orgs tops, might be wrong.).  </p>
<p>Thus Miscavige focusing on the more doable &#8220;Ideal Orgs&#8221; vs &#8220;Saint Hill Sized Orgs&#8221; as the number one focus goal, is lessening the steep gradient per that big Hubbard principle.   </p>
<p>I say all this only as Hubbard&#8217;s devil advocate.  It&#8217;s all quackery bunkum to me, but LRH&#8217;s goals to put a continuing emphasis on orgs (Saint Hill sized, or Ideal, or &#8220;small and failing orgs&#8221; LOL).</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2023 06:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515158&quot;&gt;Chris OC&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris, I think Long Island was one of the missions made into orgs under strange circumstances, that never should have been and have never really been anything other than mission-sized.

I think Scientology is both inherently dysfunctional, like many totalitarian regimes, and hopelessly dated, like other artifacts of the same era such a beanies with propellers on top or tie-dyed clothes.  So I take a sort of middle position regarding DM:  I think he was dealt a bad hand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515158">Chris OC</a>.</p>
<p>Chris, I think Long Island was one of the missions made into orgs under strange circumstances, that never should have been and have never really been anything other than mission-sized.</p>
<p>I think Scientology is both inherently dysfunctional, like many totalitarian regimes, and hopelessly dated, like other artifacts of the same era such a beanies with propellers on top or tie-dyed clothes.  So I take a sort of middle position regarding DM:  I think he was dealt a bad hand.</p>
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		By: Yawn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2023 01:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515188&quot;&gt;Glenn&lt;/a&gt;.

Good on you Glenn. 5 decades is a long haul mate!
Yeah, it&#039;s hard to fathom people do that, but some do. It&#039;s the &#039;enjoyment&#039; they get out of it which is just so foreign to the good conduct displayed; it escapes detection, like a snake in the grass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515188">Glenn</a>.</p>
<p>Good on you Glenn. 5 decades is a long haul mate!<br />
Yeah, it&#8217;s hard to fathom people do that, but some do. It&#8217;s the &#8216;enjoyment&#8217; they get out of it which is just so foreign to the good conduct displayed; it escapes detection, like a snake in the grass.</p>
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		By: GL		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515226</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 21:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515192&quot;&gt;Xenos&lt;/a&gt;.

As long as Dinky Manhood regularly hands over the cash the more the click farms will keep right on clicking on the ad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515192">Xenos</a>.</p>
<p>As long as Dinky Manhood regularly hands over the cash the more the click farms will keep right on clicking on the ad.</p>
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		By: Xenos		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515192</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 09:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very off topic to this post - feel free to delete if you wish Mike. 

Anyway - do we have a rationale explanation as to how the Scientology ad has got 27 million views in 3 weeks ? When I think of great songs from some top bands who have had clips uploaded years ago and they don&#039;t have anywhere near this viewing quantity then something doesn&#039;t seem right. For example knocking on heavens door has only got a mere 11 million views in over 5 years. At this rate the ad will have half a billion views by the end of the year. 

I&#039;m also amazed at the great feedback, the majority of the 752 comments are extremely positive. My suspicious mind says something doesn&#039;t ad up however if I&#039;m mistaken and the figures and comments are genuine then this is one of the greatest success stories of the organization in recent years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very off topic to this post &#8211; feel free to delete if you wish Mike. </p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; do we have a rationale explanation as to how the Scientology ad has got 27 million views in 3 weeks ? When I think of great songs from some top bands who have had clips uploaded years ago and they don&#8217;t have anywhere near this viewing quantity then something doesn&#8217;t seem right. For example knocking on heavens door has only got a mere 11 million views in over 5 years. At this rate the ad will have half a billion views by the end of the year. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also amazed at the great feedback, the majority of the 752 comments are extremely positive. My suspicious mind says something doesn&#8217;t ad up however if I&#8217;m mistaken and the figures and comments are genuine then this is one of the greatest success stories of the organization in recent years.</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515188</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 07:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515159&quot;&gt;Yawn&lt;/a&gt;.

Yawn,

Your statement about narcissist&#039;s  &quot;They enjoy making people feel small and unimportant because it makes them feel powerful.” made my jaw drop completely. 

It actually and truly describes ALL I experienced THROUGHOUT  my 5 decades years in the cult.  Wow oh wow!!  Talk about truth setting one free.  What you said was the &quot;item&quot; that floated my needle and got my tone arm waving broadly.  Thanks very much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515159">Yawn</a>.</p>
<p>Yawn,</p>
<p>Your statement about narcissist&#8217;s  &#8220;They enjoy making people feel small and unimportant because it makes them feel powerful.” made my jaw drop completely. </p>
<p>It actually and truly describes ALL I experienced THROUGHOUT  my 5 decades years in the cult.  Wow oh wow!!  Talk about truth setting one free.  What you said was the &#8220;item&#8221; that floated my needle and got my tone arm waving broadly.  Thanks very much.</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515187</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 07:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515154&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/orange-county-ideal-org/#comment-515154">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>👍</p>
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