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		By: Colorado Surfer Dude		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-480498</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colorado Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2022 20:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, there is enough tech from the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s that never made it onto the bridge that they could easily make some OT levels from that, and it would be out of Hubbard&#039;s mouth.  

For instance, OT9 is labelled &quot;Character&quot;.  That sounds a lot like GPM stuff from early St. Hill days.  Packages of Opposing Terminals, and their Goals.   Seems to me actually that it could be rather worthwhile.

OT 10 is labelled &quot;Orders of Magnitude&quot;.  I remember one event 20 years ago where &quot;Senior C/S Int&quot; was taking about supposedly Hubbard&#039;s research on it, with dates that go WAY far back track, like with dozens of zeros, numbers way beyond the ability of most people to comprehend that far back.

Another good contender for Orders of Magnitude is to essentially copy Excalibur from Ron&#039;s Org.   

The Route To Infinity Course has another good contender for an OT Level.

~ CSD99]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there is enough tech from the 50&#8217;s and 60&#8217;s that never made it onto the bridge that they could easily make some OT levels from that, and it would be out of Hubbard&#8217;s mouth.  </p>
<p>For instance, OT9 is labelled &#8220;Character&#8221;.  That sounds a lot like GPM stuff from early St. Hill days.  Packages of Opposing Terminals, and their Goals.   Seems to me actually that it could be rather worthwhile.</p>
<p>OT 10 is labelled &#8220;Orders of Magnitude&#8221;.  I remember one event 20 years ago where &#8220;Senior C/S Int&#8221; was taking about supposedly Hubbard&#8217;s research on it, with dates that go WAY far back track, like with dozens of zeros, numbers way beyond the ability of most people to comprehend that far back.</p>
<p>Another good contender for Orders of Magnitude is to essentially copy Excalibur from Ron&#8217;s Org.   </p>
<p>The Route To Infinity Course has another good contender for an OT Level.</p>
<p>~ CSD99</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134752</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2016 15:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134497&quot;&gt;Dawn&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Dawn.  Such activities are just to cover up for El Con and shift the fact that the tek doesn&#039;t work over to DM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134497">Dawn</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Dawn.  Such activities are just to cover up for El Con and shift the fact that the tek doesn&#8217;t work over to DM.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134652</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134558&quot;&gt;secretfornow&lt;/a&gt;.

It was the stress that did it.  
https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/december-2014/how-stress-affects-cancer-risk.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134558">secretfornow</a>.</p>
<p>It was the stress that did it.<br />
<a href="https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/december-2014/how-stress-affects-cancer-risk.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/december-2014/how-stress-affects-cancer-risk.html</a></p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134635</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[secretfornow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 04:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134499&quot;&gt;Dawn&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh lord, if I have to hear just one more time about how superior OT VIII is, and how it lifts one above and beyond everyone else, how very very few people at this awareness exits, how it&#039;s so difficult because no one else has this awareness, how it changes everything and no one else can know...

I 
just
may
commit
homicide.

some days...it&#039;s all I can do to not vomit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134499">Dawn</a>.</p>
<p>Oh lord, if I have to hear just one more time about how superior OT VIII is, and how it lifts one above and beyond everyone else, how very very few people at this awareness exits, how it&#8217;s so difficult because no one else has this awareness, how it changes everything and no one else can know&#8230;</p>
<p>I<br />
just<br />
may<br />
commit<br />
homicide.</p>
<p>some days&#8230;it&#8217;s all I can do to not vomit.</p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134634</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[secretfornow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 04:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134613&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

You goof.  I did it and I&#039;m not sorry at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134613">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>You goof.  I did it and I&#8217;m not sorry at all.</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134630</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Yawnalot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 04:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134514&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Nah, you&#039;re just a wana - be! I found one gets along a lot better in life using honey rather than vinegar. I generally try to get on with people and mind what I say to strangers. I&#039;ve made it to an old age and have operated in some dangerous professions and places. I&#039;ve met your kind before, along with just about every other kind of person, some good, some extremely evil and all shades of grey between. But the main difference between you and me is, I don&#039;t shoot prisoners.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134514">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Nah, you&#8217;re just a wana &#8211; be! I found one gets along a lot better in life using honey rather than vinegar. I generally try to get on with people and mind what I say to strangers. I&#8217;ve made it to an old age and have operated in some dangerous professions and places. I&#8217;ve met your kind before, along with just about every other kind of person, some good, some extremely evil and all shades of grey between. But the main difference between you and me is, I don&#8217;t shoot prisoners.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134613</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 00:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134560&quot;&gt;secretfornow&lt;/a&gt;.

No worries!  But...I did do it and I&#039;m very sorry...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134560">secretfornow</a>.</p>
<p>No worries!  But&#8230;I did do it and I&#8217;m very sorry&#8230;</p>
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		By: Espiando		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134593</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Espiando]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 22:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134476&quot;&gt;secretfornow&lt;/a&gt;.

In the early 80s, before OTVIII was released,  they sold 8/9/10 packages to people.  Those packages were advertised in Advance and other of their magazines.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134476">secretfornow</a>.</p>
<p>In the early 80s, before OTVIII was released,  they sold 8/9/10 packages to people.  Those packages were advertised in Advance and other of their magazines.</p>
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		By: Hans Brinkerd		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134591</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hans Brinkerd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It are stories from a widower of the first OT8 in The Netherlands. I have only some other proof. A booklet from 1976 where they sell OT8.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It are stories from a widower of the first OT8 in The Netherlands. I have only some other proof. A booklet from 1976 where they sell OT8.</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Yawnalot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 20:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134497&quot;&gt;Dawn&lt;/a&gt;.

So what&#039;s coming up next - arrest people who don&#039;t agree with you. You path has been well trodden by others many times before in many varied subjects &#038; beliefs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-x-are-bs/#comment-134497">Dawn</a>.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s coming up next &#8211; arrest people who don&#8217;t agree with you. You path has been well trodden by others many times before in many varied subjects &amp; beliefs.</p>
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