Comments on: OT VIII Ain’t What It’s Cracked Up To Be

By: ThetaMEST

ThetaMEST — Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:48:26 +0000

In reply to Old Surfer Dude. Anderson Cooper hates Scientology? That's sort of a recommendation for it, imo. Maybe it has to do w/ his being part of the CIA/Mockingbird media whose job will be done only "when everything Americans believe is false." (CIA director).

By: An Argument About Training Routines (TRs) – Penny Mixhau | Writer

An Argument About Training Routines (TRs) – Penny Mixhau | Writer — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:19:20 +0000

[…] had a mentor of sorts from the org, an OT 8 Field Staff Member (FSM), who worked to keep him on course and involved as much as he was able. […]

By: Arnie Lerma

Arnie Lerma — Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:45:01 +0000

In reply to T.J..

Nearly all the things that I had hoped to gain by joining Scientology, I found, to my astonishment, are attainable by deconstructing how the trick was done.
One Ex-Flag Director of Training was so impressed with this booklet when I showed it to him, that he turned it into a pdf because he said all recovering scientologists need to read it. You should pass this one around, it’s ‘free’.
https://www.quora.com/Are-Scientology-rituals-hypnotic/answer/Arnaldo-Lerma

Parting thought: One of the old hypnotists, named Ralph Slater, who played Carnegie Hall several times during the winter of 1949/1950 said that “Intelligent people make the best hypnotic subjects” and all the old hypnotists say in one form or another that this was because “Intelligent people can control their minds better” Yes this information is mind blowing,

PS: Do not try to digest it or read my stuff too quickly, because there are no quickie grades on the bridge out of scientology. Bad habitual thinking digs grand canyon deep furrows in the mind through which later thoughts naturally flow. It takes dedication, self discipline and time to really change one’s mind.

By: Arnie Lerma

Arnie Lerma — Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:27:09 +0000

In reply to Mike Wynski.

You are a lucky one. I was in for 7 years until shock therapy provided by some guys Mike might know about, whom, with Suzette Hubbard’s help woke me up from Hubbard’s trance. http://tinyurl.com/jopmhw8

By: Arnie Lerma

Arnie Lerma — Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:21:03 +0000

In reply to Brian.

Veddy Eenteresting…

I may be mistaken, and I have made mistakes, but I believe I wrote a couple pages a decade ago about what you describe. Google “The Confusion Technique” Top two links are my pages.

By: Mike Wynski

Mike Wynski — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 11:38:09 +0000

In reply to roger gonnet. No roger. OT VIII was written by El Con. Remember, HE never finished VII so he probably didn't finish writing everything he wanted to about it. Not that it would matter.

By: Mike Wynski

Mike Wynski — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 11:34:47 +0000

In reply to Garemeister.

Garemeister, El Con trashed those OT levels (old IV – VII) in favor of NOTS. They didn’t produce any OTs nor the E.P.s stated. But scamology never produced any Clears either so…

By: Garemeister

Garemeister — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 03:53:16 +0000

In a Scn. envriron, far far away, in the mid 1970’s, I recall a Grade Chart that listed ACTUAL OT Levels 1 thru 7, with specific EPs for each, (albeit no ACTUAL GPMs, as a prior prerequisite , as a Clear) And all the Advance Magazine articles related storied wins of OBEs, and intention projected. Then all was altered, and all “pre-OT” grades were all relegated to the riddance of fleas……..30 + years of ‘research’ and promises of Superpowers, and the Master was at the helm……?

By: Jerry Whitfield

Jerry Whitfield — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 13:33:30 +0000

In reply to Aquamarine. Very true. You nailed it. Wanna buy a bridge? They got a bridge to sell to anyone, anywhere, anytime.

By: Mephisto

Mephisto — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 04:33:22 +0000

In reply to Hennessy. That goal was abandoned when it was discovered that the majority of them were PDHed and connected to psychs, so the target became unfeasible.