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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 19:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-351049&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. For an organization that lies so much; the tech that LRH put out sometimes found the truth. 
      And the organization can&#039;t handle the truth. 
      For example my 1st wife, who was the Dir I and R FSSO ( now COFSSO) Sharron wanted a divorce and called me before a &quot; Chaplain&#039;s Court. It was not held with the Chaplain, but with the Qual Sec Sherry Anderson, who was a friend of my wife. 
     They both worked me over at the same time until I caved and agreed to the divorce. 
     Then they screwed up; they offered me a ruds session. I went in session with Steve Schlussel and he did an L1C. After he made some indications that blew all of my charge, I decided that we would get a 2D co-audit before the divorce. My wife was forced to agree being that she was the Dir I and R and putting on the Ethics Conventions on the Freewinds for years. She backed out at the last moment, snarling at me that there was no way she was going to tell me her overts. 
      I signed the divorce papers. 
2 weeks after our divorce was finalized she married Ken Weber.
       It was all for the best. 
 So much for being the most ethical person on the ship and getting everyone else&#039;s ethics in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-351049">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Yes. For an organization that lies so much; the tech that LRH put out sometimes found the truth.<br />
      And the organization can&#8217;t handle the truth.<br />
      For example my 1st wife, who was the Dir I and R FSSO ( now COFSSO) Sharron wanted a divorce and called me before a &#8221; Chaplain&#8217;s Court. It was not held with the Chaplain, but with the Qual Sec Sherry Anderson, who was a friend of my wife.<br />
     They both worked me over at the same time until I caved and agreed to the divorce.<br />
     Then they screwed up; they offered me a ruds session. I went in session with Steve Schlussel and he did an L1C. After he made some indications that blew all of my charge, I decided that we would get a 2D co-audit before the divorce. My wife was forced to agree being that she was the Dir I and R and putting on the Ethics Conventions on the Freewinds for years. She backed out at the last moment, snarling at me that there was no way she was going to tell me her overts.<br />
      I signed the divorce papers.<br />
2 weeks after our divorce was finalized she married Ken Weber.<br />
       It was all for the best.<br />
 So much for being the most ethical person on the ship and getting everyone else&#8217;s ethics in.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 12:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350827&quot;&gt;Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this).&lt;/a&gt;.

Bill, it&#039;s always good to hear from you - and hard to hear the terrible things you went through.

I&#039;ve also read multiple accounts from people who said that the result from their doing the LOC, was to realize that being on staff - or even being heavily involved in Scientology - wasn&#039;t aligned with their life purpose.

By the way, I did one of the other programs of that era, that I suspect Scientology copied - when I hear accounts of the LOC they sound eerily familiar, except that the realizations about changed life priorities and goals that often occurred for people, were part of the intended result of the course I did.  I suspect that Scientology copied it and/or similar programs without really understanding how they worked, and tried to twist it so that the outcome would be increased devotion to Scientology, but then still found it producing the result of many people looking at their lives and purposes with scientologically-dreaded &quot;open-mindedness&quot; and actually thinking for themselves for once.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350827">Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this).</a>.</p>
<p>Bill, it&#8217;s always good to hear from you &#8211; and hard to hear the terrible things you went through.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also read multiple accounts from people who said that the result from their doing the LOC, was to realize that being on staff &#8211; or even being heavily involved in Scientology &#8211; wasn&#8217;t aligned with their life purpose.</p>
<p>By the way, I did one of the other programs of that era, that I suspect Scientology copied &#8211; when I hear accounts of the LOC they sound eerily familiar, except that the realizations about changed life priorities and goals that often occurred for people, were part of the intended result of the course I did.  I suspect that Scientology copied it and/or similar programs without really understanding how they worked, and tried to twist it so that the outcome would be increased devotion to Scientology, but then still found it producing the result of many people looking at their lives and purposes with scientologically-dreaded &#8220;open-mindedness&#8221; and actually thinking for themselves for once.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 06:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill many thing have changed in the last years inside the cult. This is also what I am find from people that have left recently.]]></description>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-351008</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 05:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350960&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Brian thank you. This makes totally sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350960">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Brian thank you. This makes totally sense.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 03:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350820&quot;&gt;Badafuco&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I&#039;ve been sober now for 10 years and yoga was a HUGE part of my sobriety.&quot;

If I may say, that&#039;s impressive, Badafuco.  Quite so.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve been sober now for 10 years and yoga was a HUGE part of my sobriety.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I may say, that&#8217;s impressive, Badafuco.  Quite so.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2020 22:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350799&quot;&gt;Loosing my Religion&lt;/a&gt;.

Hatha yoga, physical exercise, was created by yogis to make the body strong to be able to sit in meditation for longer periods without body disturbance.

Hatha yoga was created for meditation.]]></description>
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<p>Hatha yoga, physical exercise, was created by yogis to make the body strong to be able to sit in meditation for longer periods without body disturbance.</p>
<p>Hatha yoga was created for meditation.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350919</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2020 15:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350847&quot;&gt;Linear13&lt;/a&gt;.

Linear 13: Thank you for your comment.  I guess that I will have to add writing the book to my &quot;Hat in Death&quot;.  I beats what the Freewinds had in mind for sure.  I have been mainly trying to support myself and find a job. Working for a cult all those years doesn&#039;t help one&#039;s resume much and some people are still leery of hiring someone with HIV though my last blood tests showed that the virus was undetectable using their most sensitive test. My doctor told me years ago that my blood counts are as good as someone who never had this disease. My heart was severely damaged from the HIV but currently I have few symptoms from it. I should get going and write the book while I still can. 
      I had thought of contacting the Aftermath Foundation but they seem to be mainly trying to get people out of the Church and I have been out many years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350847">Linear13</a>.</p>
<p>Linear 13: Thank you for your comment.  I guess that I will have to add writing the book to my &#8220;Hat in Death&#8221;.  I beats what the Freewinds had in mind for sure.  I have been mainly trying to support myself and find a job. Working for a cult all those years doesn&#8217;t help one&#8217;s resume much and some people are still leery of hiring someone with HIV though my last blood tests showed that the virus was undetectable using their most sensitive test. My doctor told me years ago that my blood counts are as good as someone who never had this disease. My heart was severely damaged from the HIV but currently I have few symptoms from it. I should get going and write the book while I still can.<br />
      I had thought of contacting the Aftermath Foundation but they seem to be mainly trying to get people out of the Church and I have been out many years.</p>
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		By: Chris Baranet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2020 14:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350842&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350842">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2020 14:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/other-practices-the-new-normal/#comment-350721&quot;&gt;Zee Moo&lt;/a&gt;.

I use to bowl...until I realized I hated to bowl.]]></description>
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<p>I use to bowl&#8230;until I realized I hated to bowl.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2020 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was sent to ethics for doing Hatha (physical) Yoga when I was a thought slave.

Here is my take:

Without a shot fired, without political operatives, without a super pack, with no one running for office.......................

Yoga has the power to transform a society from within the culture.

Mediation and Hatha Yoga is taught in grammar schools, high school, universities, cancer wards, helps with blood pressure, anxiety, depression.

Meditation and Hatha Yoga is recommended from health professionals, psychologists, psychiatrists, quantum physicists.

Without a shot fired, the philosophy and practice of ancient India is taking the world by storm, totally under the radar in clear daylight. 

June 21st is recognized by the United Nations as International Yoga Day.

That yoga has breached the ramparts of Scientology “other practice” dogma gives me hope. 
It’s also done it in the fundamentalist Christian community. 

Yoga, being scientific and workable, is infiltrating the very fabric of our culture. There is not one city in the world that you don’t see the ubiquitous yoga mat under someone’s arm.

Once an ideology steals into the enemy camp, as yoga seems to be doing in this post, it slowly reveals it’s philosophy in time. Behind the physical exercises lay the deep philosophy.

Yoga infiltrates because it’s not a belief. It’s a practice with demonstrable results. Physical, emotional, mental and spiritual results. 

May yoga infiltrate Scientology and change it from within. 

I can only dream.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was sent to ethics for doing Hatha (physical) Yoga when I was a thought slave.</p>
<p>Here is my take:</p>
<p>Without a shot fired, without political operatives, without a super pack, with no one running for office&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Yoga has the power to transform a society from within the culture.</p>
<p>Mediation and Hatha Yoga is taught in grammar schools, high school, universities, cancer wards, helps with blood pressure, anxiety, depression.</p>
<p>Meditation and Hatha Yoga is recommended from health professionals, psychologists, psychiatrists, quantum physicists.</p>
<p>Without a shot fired, the philosophy and practice of ancient India is taking the world by storm, totally under the radar in clear daylight. </p>
<p>June 21st is recognized by the United Nations as International Yoga Day.</p>
<p>That yoga has breached the ramparts of Scientology “other practice” dogma gives me hope.<br />
It’s also done it in the fundamentalist Christian community. </p>
<p>Yoga, being scientific and workable, is infiltrating the very fabric of our culture. There is not one city in the world that you don’t see the ubiquitous yoga mat under someone’s arm.</p>
<p>Once an ideology steals into the enemy camp, as yoga seems to be doing in this post, it slowly reveals it’s philosophy in time. Behind the physical exercises lay the deep philosophy.</p>
<p>Yoga infiltrates because it’s not a belief. It’s a practice with demonstrable results. Physical, emotional, mental and spiritual results. </p>
<p>May yoga infiltrate Scientology and change it from within. </p>
<p>I can only dream.</p>
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