Shawn. I know this post is old but are you there?? I have some questions i really need to ask you in reference to WH at the Atl org.

Thank you in advance

Pepper, what a story. And how very aware of you to spot that you were PTS to the church. Most people would censure that thought as soon as it came to them. VWD to you. And you’re right to tell those in not to waste their time making originations to the D of P or CS. It’s always, well you should have bought more intensives…. in Ron’s day he didn’t do that sort of shit and he tried to give you relief in the first intensive or first few sessions.

Ronnie, that is exactly as I remember it. I used to go over to CC for events in 1973, and it was like Sunset Blvd on a Saturday night. Music, a few hundred people, talking, laughing, excited about a future that they were busily creating. It was fun. Then Yvonne died. The lightness faded. The allure of stats took hold like crack to an addict. LA Org’s hustle was redirected to big dollars, bad deals and bounced checks and that brief moment was gone too.

Funny… when I look back at, I recall feeling sadness at how things had changed. It reminded me of 1971 when Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin all died. Like someone slammed the door.

But I refuse to leave it at that. That affluence of theta and creativity can be recreated again. I am certain of it.

Ditto on the “three swings F/N problem”!!!

I experienced the EXACT same thing. Auditors not calling F/N’s and sitting there, watching the meter for that needle to do the three swing movement. DUH!

As a result, auditing became a source of literal torture to me. I was getting worse, even physically ill. I had migraine headaches weekly and ended up with pneumonia, sick for almost 2 months. I had a lot of time to think lying in bed for weeks and spotted an evil in my life. THE CoS!

I stopped getting any more auditing in the CoS and guess what? My health improved and I haven’t been sick for over 6 years now. I’ve had maybe 2 colds for 3 days at a time. I didn’t only stop auditing but training too. The place became suppressive to me and I didn’t want to be a part of it.

I’ve gone through a lot personally from this experience and it took me a while to come out the other side. I have now and hope others will too.

If anyone out there is not getting help from their auditing, don’t waste your time originating anything to the DoP or CS. They will only tell you to “keep going”. That was the only answer I ever got and I was making originations left and right to NO avail.

I happened to be walking in Old Town that day with my teenage daughter and I could see her interest piqued. There was a young boy walking in front of us, about 12 years old and he says out loud to his Mom, “Look, it’s about Scientology – I hate Scientology”. His Mom shushed him.

Public members from the area were recruited to work as staff and unfortunately, their teenage kids either in high school or just out. What a waste of time and life. Almost all the kids I’ve known who’ve joined staff leave as soon as their contract is up, GLAD to get out! Most of them go offlines afterwards as well and I know from my daughter they read up on the internet.

Pasadena Org is dead. I go to Old Town all the time and never see any activity going on in that org and am told by publc scientologists as well that it’s DEAD.

I was at CC doing the PRD & Ministers Course at that time. The building was old & shabby, kind of hip, rather aesthetic &, as you say, packed. Many excited, eager people around, including some celebs, who I don’t think cared about the worn, second-hand MEST.

Scott, your comment was hilarious! But sadly true.

Damn, this is starting to be like some sort of homecoming. I was also at LA org in 1973. I was doing the old Comm Course in that time. You guys remember it like I do. The place was packed to the gills every night. I remember that half the academy students were set up with tables and chairs in the parking lot. C.C was around the corner on 8th Street, and was similarly packed. No one gave a flying rip about the MEST. That place was THETA.

Thoughtful hope you are doing great,

I’ve looked at the C of $ business model and my computer
went down to the Road House Bar got stinking drunk
got in a fight with Biker Gang. Sheriff called me at 4 am to
come bail him out of jail before he was ass raped.
by psychopath’s who were busted for selling crack.
My computer is on lock down for a long time now,
no more C of $ business models .