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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-219172</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2018 01:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-219164&quot;&gt;Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

Spent many happy weeks in the bilges. It was  relief to be down there with the Engineers who were less interested in politics than other areas of the SO. I didn&#039;t mind the work or the sludge. Being away from the insanity of Miscavige (who never wanted to dirty the soles of hand-made shoes in the ER) was a massive relief.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-219164">Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass</a>.</p>
<p>Spent many happy weeks in the bilges. It was  relief to be down there with the Engineers who were less interested in politics than other areas of the SO. I didn&#8217;t mind the work or the sludge. Being away from the insanity of Miscavige (who never wanted to dirty the soles of hand-made shoes in the ER) was a massive relief.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-219164</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2018 00:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154038&quot;&gt;pluvo&lt;/a&gt;.

I do not remember many, but my ex-wife Alison Williams who was the I and R of the watch told me that she used to run Ray Mithoff in the bilges after I left.
     The bilges thing started., I believe, when DM was unhappy with the performance of the Gold Crew during Maiden Voyage Anniversaries. He would send some of them down &quot;Until they had a cognition&quot;. Soon more and more were sent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154038">pluvo</a>.</p>
<p>I do not remember many, but my ex-wife Alison Williams who was the I and R of the watch told me that she used to run Ray Mithoff in the bilges after I left.<br />
     The bilges thing started., I believe, when DM was unhappy with the performance of the Gold Crew during Maiden Voyage Anniversaries. He would send some of them down &#8220;Until they had a cognition&#8221;. Soon more and more were sent.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-155127</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2016 21:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-155124&quot;&gt;The Snark&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s a real pain giving references and not the text. I looked it up for you. Not sure what your point is here, but this is the text of the PL you reference. You sound awfully trollish:

GROSS INCOME SENIOR DATUM  
 
THE SIZE NOT THE QUALITY OF AN ORG&#039;S MAILING LIST AND THE NUMBER OF MAILINGS AND LETTERS TO IT DETERMINES THE GROSS INCOME OF AN ORG. IF THIS IS NOT KNOWN AS A SENIOR DATUM TO EXEC SECS AND KEPT IN BY THEM THEIR CONDITION IS TREASON. 
 
L. RON HUBBARD 
Founder]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-155124">The Snark</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a real pain giving references and not the text. I looked it up for you. Not sure what your point is here, but this is the text of the PL you reference. You sound awfully trollish:</p>
<p>GROSS INCOME SENIOR DATUM  </p>
<p>THE SIZE NOT THE QUALITY OF AN ORG&#8217;S MAILING LIST AND THE NUMBER OF MAILINGS AND LETTERS TO IT DETERMINES THE GROSS INCOME OF AN ORG. IF THIS IS NOT KNOWN AS A SENIOR DATUM TO EXEC SECS AND KEPT IN BY THEM THEIR CONDITION IS TREASON. </p>
<p>L. RON HUBBARD<br />
Founder</p>
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		By: The Snark		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-155124</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2016 21:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154093&quot;&gt;Espiando&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey SP- Ando Read HCOPL 30 July 1968 OEC Vol 2 page 68 if you know what an OEC volume is.

We know where your brain is, your sitting on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154093">Espiando</a>.</p>
<p>Hey SP- Ando Read HCOPL 30 July 1968 OEC Vol 2 page 68 if you know what an OEC volume is.</p>
<p>We know where your brain is, your sitting on it.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154277</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154160&quot;&gt;Gtsix&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, they did.  In person.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154160">Gtsix</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, they did.  In person.</p>
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		By: Gimpy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154200</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gimpy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 19:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154055&quot;&gt;Buber Zionist (@buberzionist)&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah but look at it this way, if ever there is a digital melt down they will be way ahead of the game, while the rest of us struggle to remember how to hold a pen.]]></description>
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<p>Ah but look at it this way, if ever there is a digital melt down they will be way ahead of the game, while the rest of us struggle to remember how to hold a pen.</p>
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		By: Chee Chalker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154173</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chee Chalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 16:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if anyone has done the math, but 400 man hours a day is 16 people working 24 hours.  
So assuming everyone works in 8 hour shifts, that would mean 48 people per day for 8 hours

As if there are 48  active Scientologists in the Valley

And what about people who work full time?   They&#039;re supposed to work a full day then go and put in another 8 hours at the Org?  Filing?

Talk about optimistic!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone has done the math, but 400 man hours a day is 16 people working 24 hours.<br />
So assuming everyone works in 8 hour shifts, that would mean 48 people per day for 8 hours</p>
<p>As if there are 48  active Scientologists in the Valley</p>
<p>And what about people who work full time?   They&#8217;re supposed to work a full day then go and put in another 8 hours at the Org?  Filing?</p>
<p>Talk about optimistic!</p>
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		By: Gtsix		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154160</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gtsix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 15:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154073&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Did they?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154073">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Did they?</p>
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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gus Cox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154092&quot;&gt;Espiando&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah, I did not know that about Grape-Nuts.  I do know that I used to like them, and my dentist loves them, because they are responsible for a couple of those crowns on my back teeth!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154092">Espiando</a>.</p>
<p>Ah, I did not know that about Grape-Nuts.  I do know that I used to like them, and my dentist loves them, because they are responsible for a couple of those crowns on my back teeth!</p>
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		By: Mephisto		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154120</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mephisto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 04:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154113&quot;&gt;Harmless Weirdo&lt;/a&gt;.

Let&#039;s see - 80,000. Now, if we apply the 47x factor in reverse and divide instead of multiply (since expansion in Scientology is PR for contraction) it comes to about 1,700. Sounds like about the number of Scientologists in the Greater Los Angeles area.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-contraction/#comment-154113">Harmless Weirdo</a>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see &#8211; 80,000. Now, if we apply the 47x factor in reverse and divide instead of multiply (since expansion in Scientology is PR for contraction) it comes to about 1,700. Sounds like about the number of Scientologists in the Greater Los Angeles area.</p>
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