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	Comments on: Proof of Expansion (Where&#8217;s Shelly?) first published Nov 29, 2013	</title>
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		By: Jane Doe 2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2020 20:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331157&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

The first place I&#039;d look is where that private eye said she was when he was posted outside across the street watching her at work all day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331157">LoosingMyReligion</a>.</p>
<p>The first place I&#8217;d look is where that private eye said she was when he was posted outside across the street watching her at work all day.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331089&quot;&gt;Linear13&lt;/a&gt;.

Linear13, there have been accounts suggesting that some of the key Hubbard loyalists are just hanging in there, in hopes that something will eventually happen - Hubbard himself will return (some apparently actually believe that), or presumably that DM&#039;s leadership will somehow end (he is mortal, after all).

Unfortunately, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any reason to assume that Shelly isn&#039;t just another dead-ender who will hang on knowing nothing else, and hoping that things will change - essentially, the insanity of doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.]]></description>
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<p>Linear13, there have been accounts suggesting that some of the key Hubbard loyalists are just hanging in there, in hopes that something will eventually happen &#8211; Hubbard himself will return (some apparently actually believe that), or presumably that DM&#8217;s leadership will somehow end (he is mortal, after all).</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any reason to assume that Shelly isn&#8217;t just another dead-ender who will hang on knowing nothing else, and hoping that things will change &#8211; essentially, the insanity of doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.</p>
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		By: Jane Doe 2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2020 17:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331136&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

Some years backs someone posted on the blog here that there was a shelly sighting in town with two &quot;handlers&quot; with her and that she looked dishevelled and underweight and like a weak bag lady.  So she might not have the strength or even presence of mind to escape if they broke her psychologically.  I&#039;d love to see her do a Valerie Haney and get the heck out of there.]]></description>
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<p>Some years backs someone posted on the blog here that there was a shelly sighting in town with two &#8220;handlers&#8221; with her and that she looked dishevelled and underweight and like a weak bag lady.  So she might not have the strength or even presence of mind to escape if they broke her psychologically.  I&#8217;d love to see her do a Valerie Haney and get the heck out of there.</p>
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		By: Take Em Down		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2020 16:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331140&quot;&gt;Constance Vigilance&lt;/a&gt;.

With all the enemies Sci has, I was thinking about that too. In reality, if the stock market keeps dropping, it would be wise to buy at a LOW point. When the inoculation for the coronavirus becomes available it will all go back to normal real quick. Can’t wait for Sci to order everyone to get their shots.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331140">Constance Vigilance</a>.</p>
<p>With all the enemies Sci has, I was thinking about that too. In reality, if the stock market keeps dropping, it would be wise to buy at a LOW point. When the inoculation for the coronavirus becomes available it will all go back to normal real quick. Can’t wait for Sci to order everyone to get their shots.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2020 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331140&quot;&gt;Constance Vigilance&lt;/a&gt;.

Laughing!!]]></description>
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<p>Laughing!!</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2020 07:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331089&quot;&gt;Linear13&lt;/a&gt;.

Linear 13.
I agree fully with you. First we should find where she could have be hidden by the dear &#039;husband&#039;.]]></description>
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<p>Linear 13.<br />
I agree fully with you. First we should find where she could have be hidden by the dear &#8216;husband&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Constance Vigilance		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2020 04:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Off topic, but I had a thought. Since the only treatment we have for Coronavirus is to stay away from crowds and people, we finally have a reason to go to an Org!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic, but I had a thought. Since the only treatment we have for Coronavirus is to stay away from crowds and people, we finally have a reason to go to an Org!</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere Lull (39 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331089&quot;&gt;Linear13&lt;/a&gt;.

IF Shelly wanted to &quot;escape&quot; badly enough, I dare say she  would have.  She&#039;s no dummy, by all reports, and seems to have a fairly light &quot;leash&quot; holding her in place.    Just by going in to town and dialing 911 at any telephone, she&#039;d get some help doing so.

And WHAT a splash that would make in the scientology world.  SHE certainly could get Dwarfenführer in the witness chair answering hard questions.]]></description>
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<p>IF Shelly wanted to &#8220;escape&#8221; badly enough, I dare say she  would have.  She&#8217;s no dummy, by all reports, and seems to have a fairly light &#8220;leash&#8221; holding her in place.    Just by going in to town and dialing 911 at any telephone, she&#8217;d get some help doing so.</p>
<p>And WHAT a splash that would make in the scientology world.  SHE certainly could get Dwarfenführer in the witness chair answering hard questions.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere Lull (39 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/proof-of-expansion-wheres-shelly-first-published-nov-29-2013/#comment-331132&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

Just to be specific: I found a pdf version on-line &#038; downloaded  it to my hard drive.  SORRY, Dr. Stout, but I  can&#039;t read dead-tree books these days.]]></description>
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<p>Just to be specific: I found a pdf version on-line &amp; downloaded  it to my hard drive.  SORRY, Dr. Stout, but I  can&#8217;t read dead-tree books these days.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere Lull (39 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps a bit O/T:  I found a copy of &quot;The sociopath next door&quot; by Martha Stout  and have enjoyed reading it.  It&#039;s a bit strange to pause reading it to review the latest here and at the Bunker.  SO MANY parallels.  TOO scary to believe I put up with Tubby&#039;s tricks® as long as I did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a bit O/T:  I found a copy of &#8220;The sociopath next door&#8221; by Martha Stout  and have enjoyed reading it.  It&#8217;s a bit strange to pause reading it to review the latest here and at the Bunker.  SO MANY parallels.  TOO scary to believe I put up with Tubby&#8217;s tricks® as long as I did.</p>
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