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		By: RR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2022 03:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-480472&quot;&gt;Leo&lt;/a&gt;.

He has a book now that just came out called A Billion Years. I’m listening to the audiobook now. So good, but so sad!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-480472">Leo</a>.</p>
<p>He has a book now that just came out called A Billion Years. I’m listening to the audiobook now. So good, but so sad!</p>
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		By: Leo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2022 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Mr. Rinder and others,

I am really curious about the Bruce Welch story and I think I found a website with his obituary on it: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/145623062/norman-bruce-welch

He was born on September 2, 1945 and his full name is Norman Bruce Welch. His obit has details that appear to confirm this is him:

&quot;He dabbled in Scientology with his dad and sister throughout the 70s and served on L. Ron Hubbard&#039;s ship.&quot;

There are a lot of other interesting tidbits in the very short obit. I&#039;m wondering if anyone has written a good article about this fellow. It seems like he would be a great subject for a profile on one of LRH&#039;s most important &#039;case studies&#039; as it were.

I also really enjoyed listening to Mr. Rinder talk about his experiences in the Sea Org on Jon Atack&#039;s youtube channel. I just wish there was more and if I am not mistaken, Mr. Rinder has not written a book which seems like it would be an amazing read.

Thank you,

Leo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mr. Rinder and others,</p>
<p>I am really curious about the Bruce Welch story and I think I found a website with his obituary on it: <a href="https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/145623062/norman-bruce-welch" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/145623062/norman-bruce-welch</a></p>
<p>He was born on September 2, 1945 and his full name is Norman Bruce Welch. His obit has details that appear to confirm this is him:</p>
<p>&#8220;He dabbled in Scientology with his dad and sister throughout the 70s and served on L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s ship.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are a lot of other interesting tidbits in the very short obit. I&#8217;m wondering if anyone has written a good article about this fellow. It seems like he would be a great subject for a profile on one of LRH&#8217;s most important &#8216;case studies&#8217; as it were.</p>
<p>I also really enjoyed listening to Mr. Rinder talk about his experiences in the Sea Org on Jon Atack&#8217;s youtube channel. I just wish there was more and if I am not mistaken, Mr. Rinder has not written a book which seems like it would be an amazing read.</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Leo</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-375664&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

ETA:
I addition, drinking oneself into insensibility is NOT a substitute for natural, deep REM sleep. Unconsciousness ≠ sleep.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-375664">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>ETA:<br />
I addition, drinking oneself into insensibility is NOT a substitute for natural, deep REM sleep. Unconsciousness ≠ sleep.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130097&quot;&gt;Lawrence&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d also hazard that in addition to lack of sleep, the guy hasn&#039;t gotten properly LAID for years. He sentenced his wife to a virtual Siberia, Lou, his &quot;communicator&quot;, is forbidden fruit, ethically, and taking matters into his own hands similarly verboten. Little guy can&#039;t get a break.  It&#039;s no wonder he self-medicates himself regularly with organization-purchased tax-free booze.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130097">Lawrence</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also hazard that in addition to lack of sleep, the guy hasn&#8217;t gotten properly LAID for years. He sentenced his wife to a virtual Siberia, Lou, his &#8220;communicator&#8221;, is forbidden fruit, ethically, and taking matters into his own hands similarly verboten. Little guy can&#8217;t get a break.  It&#8217;s no wonder he self-medicates himself regularly with organization-purchased tax-free booze.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 18:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Compassion isn’t a scientology strength.&quot;

That&#039;s quite an understatement!
Compassion isn’t a scientology trait.  
It&#039;s specifically excluded by Hubbard&#039;s decrees.  It&#039;s DOWNTONE, and succumbing to bullbait]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Compassion isn’t a scientology strength.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s quite an understatement!<br />
Compassion isn’t a scientology trait.<br />
It&#8217;s specifically excluded by Hubbard&#8217;s decrees.  It&#8217;s DOWNTONE, and succumbing to bullbait</p>
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		By: Roberto Sánchez Núñez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roberto Sánchez Núñez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130168&quot;&gt;Roberto Sánchez Núñez&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Marco. You are not rambling... There´s much good behind those words. I will ask Mr. Rinder for your email adress. Wish you the very best.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130168">Roberto Sánchez Núñez</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Marco. You are not rambling&#8230; There´s much good behind those words. I will ask Mr. Rinder for your email adress. Wish you the very best.</p>
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		By: Roberto Sánchez Núñez		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130452</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roberto Sánchez Núñez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130170&quot;&gt;thetaclear&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Peter. Sure... mi mail starts with impulso and has an .mx at the end. I will write you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130170">thetaclear</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Peter. Sure&#8230; mi mail starts with impulso and has an .mx at the end. I will write you.</p>
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		By: Roberto Sánchez Núñez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130009&quot;&gt;Espiando&lt;/a&gt;.

Google Mike Rinder Blog Niacin and it appears.
Thanks for your loving and compassionate words Mr. Newell.
Let me just say amen to your words… I agree 100%
“While we were in, we thought we were becoming better people, we really could save not only ourselves but the world?…
Nobody checked out of Life Repair saying LRH was an insidious hypnotist.
Individuals are at real risk of finding themselves just as isolated outside as when they were “in”.
Too many have come out only to break down or be swept away only for the lack of support and a bit of encouragement.
It is not the tech that saves people in the end. It is all about compassion.
Now then, it is time to do the right thing.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130009">Espiando</a>.</p>
<p>Google Mike Rinder Blog Niacin and it appears.<br />
Thanks for your loving and compassionate words Mr. Newell.<br />
Let me just say amen to your words… I agree 100%<br />
“While we were in, we thought we were becoming better people, we really could save not only ourselves but the world?…<br />
Nobody checked out of Life Repair saying LRH was an insidious hypnotist.<br />
Individuals are at real risk of finding themselves just as isolated outside as when they were “in”.<br />
Too many have come out only to break down or be swept away only for the lack of support and a bit of encouragement.<br />
It is not the tech that saves people in the end. It is all about compassion.<br />
Now then, it is time to do the right thing.”</p>
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		By: Herman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 01:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-129884&quot;&gt;Tidalwave&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed, Tidalwave. Introspection Rundown, Survival Rundown...
these cycles are certain to cause anxiety at the least, emotional damage very likely.

It is as if the idea were to attack the weak because they make easier targets.
The plan:
make them worse, then bring them back to where they started and use it as justification to say the tech works.

I recall the recent death of the lady-actress going into Celebrity Center for depression, it was a broken romance, I believe... This stuff proves more dangerous the closer you look.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-129884">Tidalwave</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed, Tidalwave. Introspection Rundown, Survival Rundown&#8230;<br />
these cycles are certain to cause anxiety at the least, emotional damage very likely.</p>
<p>It is as if the idea were to attack the weak because they make easier targets.<br />
The plan:<br />
make them worse, then bring them back to where they started and use it as justification to say the tech works.</p>
<p>I recall the recent death of the lady-actress going into Celebrity Center for depression, it was a broken romance, I believe&#8230; This stuff proves more dangerous the closer you look.</p>
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		By: Mark A. Newell		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130224</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark A. Newell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130009&quot;&gt;Espiando&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, yes I remember that one, the post with Niacin...
How does one go about finding a specific post like that?
I&#039;ll try googling key words...

I have issues with most Indies, too, but certainly not Roberto.

We all went through stages, getting out. We all got heavily invested getting in and naturally would be reluctant to say everything we believed in so deeply, was so thoroughly wrong. While we were in, we thought we were becoming better people, that we were destined to become spiritual leaders at astonishing rates... we really could save not only ourselves but the world?...

Nobody checked out of Life Repair saying LRH was an insidious hypnotist.

Now we know it is quite true.

But Roberto can accept or reject whatever he chooses, no matter to me whatsoever. The thing is, he is obviously helping people make the transition into the otherwise barren real world, just when those individuals are at real risk of finding themselves just as isolated outside as when they were &quot;in&quot;.

Too many have come out only to break down or be swept away only for the lack of support and a bit of encouragement.

So, I support the man. I don&#039;t know how he became so wise and so marvelously compassionate, but I certainly want to be his friend and I hope he feels welcome to post here often and, if the possibility exists, for eternity. 

It is not the tech that saves people in the end. It is all about compassion.
Now then, it is time to do the right thing, and so I&#039;m going to the beach.
You guys at OSA should know where to find me, if you feel like catching up.
You&#039;ll have to bring your own boards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-130009">Espiando</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, yes I remember that one, the post with Niacin&#8230;<br />
How does one go about finding a specific post like that?<br />
I&#8217;ll try googling key words&#8230;</p>
<p>I have issues with most Indies, too, but certainly not Roberto.</p>
<p>We all went through stages, getting out. We all got heavily invested getting in and naturally would be reluctant to say everything we believed in so deeply, was so thoroughly wrong. While we were in, we thought we were becoming better people, that we were destined to become spiritual leaders at astonishing rates&#8230; we really could save not only ourselves but the world?&#8230;</p>
<p>Nobody checked out of Life Repair saying LRH was an insidious hypnotist.</p>
<p>Now we know it is quite true.</p>
<p>But Roberto can accept or reject whatever he chooses, no matter to me whatsoever. The thing is, he is obviously helping people make the transition into the otherwise barren real world, just when those individuals are at real risk of finding themselves just as isolated outside as when they were &#8220;in&#8221;.</p>
<p>Too many have come out only to break down or be swept away only for the lack of support and a bit of encouragement.</p>
<p>So, I support the man. I don&#8217;t know how he became so wise and so marvelously compassionate, but I certainly want to be his friend and I hope he feels welcome to post here often and, if the possibility exists, for eternity. </p>
<p>It is not the tech that saves people in the end. It is all about compassion.<br />
Now then, it is time to do the right thing, and so I&#8217;m going to the beach.<br />
You guys at OSA should know where to find me, if you feel like catching up.<br />
You&#8217;ll have to bring your own boards.</p>
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