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		By: TruthTeller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;If they get $1.4 million for Puerto Rico in the next 2 weeks I will put on a David Miscavige bouffant wig and parade in front of the Ft Harrison with a sign that says “Mike Rinder is a bigot, liar and poopy pants.”

My cheque is on the way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If they get $1.4 million for Puerto Rico in the next 2 weeks I will put on a David Miscavige bouffant wig and parade in front of the Ft Harrison with a sign that says “Mike Rinder is a bigot, liar and poopy pants.”</p>
<p>My cheque is on the way.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 02:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/puerto-rico-more-ideal-org-fail/#comment-108316&quot;&gt;BlindersOff&lt;/a&gt;.

Corn is COB&#039;s ecclesiastical vegetable.  It goes both into and out of his mouth.]]></description>
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<p>Corn is COB&#8217;s ecclesiastical vegetable.  It goes both into and out of his mouth.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 02:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/puerto-rico-more-ideal-org-fail/#comment-108130&quot;&gt;MostEthicalPimp&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, if Niblet DOES come thru with the 1.4 million, and Mike has to keep his word and parade in front of the FH with that wig and that sign, I think we&#039;ll need to back him up with our OWN wigs and signs that say, &quot;NOT TRUE!  COB Is Your Lier, Bigot, Poopy Pants and MORE!!!!&quot;  :)]]></description>
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<p>Well, if Niblet DOES come thru with the 1.4 million, and Mike has to keep his word and parade in front of the FH with that wig and that sign, I think we&#8217;ll need to back him up with our OWN wigs and signs that say, &#8220;NOT TRUE!  COB Is Your Lier, Bigot, Poopy Pants and MORE!!!!&#8221;  🙂</p>
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		By: thetaclear		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 00:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/puerto-rico-more-ideal-org-fail/#comment-108305&quot;&gt;John Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot; T.C. I’m afraid that your knowledge is EXTREMELY incomplete. TANF alone gives up to $600/month for those adults diagnosed with mental illness disability in P.R.&quot;

TC : Now John,  as you always say,  &quot;provide the SOURCE documents,  please&quot;. $600 ? Are you are of your mind ? I never said they received none,  I merely it was more like a petty cash as the communication from the letter Mike posted was inferring that young adults here were conveniently taking advantage of the great economic benefits of being diagnosed as mentally unfit. And that,  dear John,  has never been the case here. A lot of people getting TANF FOOD benefits,  yes,  that&#039;s true. A lot of YOUNG adults getting high bebefits for being mentally incapacitated ? Now,  that is only the fixed idea of others who believe everything they read. I LIVE here,  and have done so for the last 47 years,  being in constant contact with the News here. You can&#039;t possibly know more than I do about PR&#039;s social and economic scenario,  regardless of your grandmother. 


&quot;And as of a couple of years ago (I haven’t checked since then), 1 in 6 adult males are on some type of disability payments via gov.&quot;


TC : Yes,  that&#039;s true enough , but not mental disability as such, but psysical ones. But I accept that the mental health problem here is quite severe. But then again,  so it is in the USA. 


&quot;All this type of data is available through .gov websites. I suggest engaging logic rather than emotions.&quot;


TC : John,  don&#039;t believe everything you read in PR&#039;s gov websites. It is all about politics here.  And I thought you was the one always emoting about everything.  :-)))]]></description>
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<p>&#8221; T.C. I’m afraid that your knowledge is EXTREMELY incomplete. TANF alone gives up to $600/month for those adults diagnosed with mental illness disability in P.R.&#8221;</p>
<p>TC : Now John,  as you always say,  &#8220;provide the SOURCE documents,  please&#8221;. $600 ? Are you are of your mind ? I never said they received none,  I merely it was more like a petty cash as the communication from the letter Mike posted was inferring that young adults here were conveniently taking advantage of the great economic benefits of being diagnosed as mentally unfit. And that,  dear John,  has never been the case here. A lot of people getting TANF FOOD benefits,  yes,  that&#8217;s true. A lot of YOUNG adults getting high bebefits for being mentally incapacitated ? Now,  that is only the fixed idea of others who believe everything they read. I LIVE here,  and have done so for the last 47 years,  being in constant contact with the News here. You can&#8217;t possibly know more than I do about PR&#8217;s social and economic scenario,  regardless of your grandmother. </p>
<p>&#8220;And as of a couple of years ago (I haven’t checked since then), 1 in 6 adult males are on some type of disability payments via gov.&#8221;</p>
<p>TC : Yes,  that&#8217;s true enough , but not mental disability as such, but psysical ones. But I accept that the mental health problem here is quite severe. But then again,  so it is in the USA. </p>
<p>&#8220;All this type of data is available through .gov websites. I suggest engaging logic rather than emotions.&#8221;</p>
<p>TC : John,  don&#8217;t believe everything you read in PR&#8217;s gov websites. It is all about politics here.  And I thought you was the one always emoting about everything.  :-)))</p>
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		By: BlindersOff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 23:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DM&#039;s mother&#039;s failed attempted ethics handling on her son: &quot;Now Davey, give those kids their  allowance money back.&quot;]]></description>
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		By: thetaclear		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/puerto-rico-more-ideal-org-fail/#comment-108248&quot;&gt;statpush&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot; Interesting story TC, thanks for sharing.&quot;


TC : You are most welcome , Statpus.


 &quot;I too knew several public who went to Mexico for the cheaper rates. South Africa has the same situation. In my org, it was generally considered to be out-ethics to do so. But, people still did it.&quot;


TC : Yeah,  PR Org&#039;s ED always considered it an act of &quot;treason&quot; to go to ITD or Venezuela to just get cheaper rates. The irony of this is,  that when one of these &quot;big donators&quot; wanted to go elsewhere to get professional auditing,  they never objected to it,  but actually HELPED the cycle happen. Like this sudden WISE  &quot;celebrity&quot;,  Gabriel Fernandez,  a PR Org public. But when the ones who never donated more than $100 (because they REALLY had lots of finacial difficulties, and what Scientologist doesn&#039;t)  wanted to go as their ONLY available solution to fulfill their becoming Clear dream , then they put a lot of stops on that public,  even introverting him/her by accusing them of being &quot;out-ethics&quot;. How&#039;s that for being hypocrites ?

The fact is that PR&#039;s &quot;professional&quot; auditing left much to be desired. A bunch of totally robotic auditors whose handling of the Tech looked like a 5 year old kid. PR&#039;s org has always been the champion of the squirrels. As an VERY ilustrative example,  this WISE &quot;celebrity&quot; , Gabriel Fernandez got trained as a Class IV some decades ago. He was the &quot;hot-shot&quot; of the moment as 1) the org had no fucking auditors available besides their English-only speaking Snr C/S , Jim Bates (a graduate class auditor and
 C/S) ; 2) He had money,  and PR Org just love to propitiate to the &quot;rich&quot; ones,  you know,  and kiss their asses ; 3) His sister (Gigi Gernandez) was a world reknown tennis player , an olympic gold medal winner. 

So this &quot;hot-shot&quot; , an GAT 1 class IV graduate,  audited a very dear friend of mine. This is the good part ; while IN-SESSION with my friend,  he told her,  &quot;You know that you are being audited by an OT,  an OT III,  don&#039;t you ? , you are not being audited by just anybody here ?&quot;. They guy wasn&#039;t even Clear! He was allegedly C/Sed for the CCRD (which of course,  PR has never been able to deliver it) , and when eventually arrived at Flag for that,  he was sent back todo ALL his Grades!!! I am not kidding here ; this actually happened.He was talking about his own case in session with his PC!!! What a marvelous GAT magnificent &quot;standard&quot; auditor!!! And he used to originate all kind of distractions and arbitraries in session. 


Another class IV GAT 1 graduate auditor,  a medical doctor not just some college drop-out,  audited another friend of mine. While in session my friend hit a charged incident and began to cry. This marvelous auditor,  this representation of the most Standard training program ever developed,  while IN-SESSION,  told my friend,  &quot;you poor baby,  are you okay ? , that&#039;s all right,  just relax&quot;. I am NOT pulling your leg here,  this ACTUALLY happened. 

These were the &quot;standard&quot; PR org auditors. Who the hell would not have wanted to go else where to get professional auditing ? PR has always been a totally worthless org after Don Pfendler left. Susan Marino took over,  and it all went to shit. And I got caught in the middle due to my non-comformist nature,  and got busted. After I made her look bad,  when I stopped her from not letting others go to where ever the hell they wanted to to get their auditing , she always hated my guts. A lot of people did,  as I never agreed to any of their criminal actions. I always fought back. I&#039;ve never been a god-damn victim. 


&quot;Based on your stories about PR Org, it’s no wonder why they are non-existent and failing. Hell, they probably SHOULD be shutdown.&quot;


TC : They should,  all right. The thing is that once I start something,  there us no turning back for me. I either win or die ; I know of no middle stops. I don&#039;t believe in defeats. But I need to get finantially ready first. If my plans happens as I am coordinating them,  I&#039;ll be ready for the big fight soon enough. 



&quot;In PR, ever run into Sue Marino? Former Miami staff, married to the Snr C/S NY at one time.&quot;


TC : Well,  may be you are referring to &quot;Susan Marino,  married to Jim Bates former Snr C/S of the Org who also C/Sed for Miami and New York,  I guess. She is from Venezuela, I think,  and he is a blue-eyed blond &quot;gringo&quot;. If that&#039;s the case,  I SURE know her. She has been the ED for the last 2-3 decades. 


Take care,  Statpush.


Best regards,
TC]]></description>
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<p>&#8221; Interesting story TC, thanks for sharing.&#8221;</p>
<p>TC : You are most welcome , Statpus.</p>
<p> &#8220;I too knew several public who went to Mexico for the cheaper rates. South Africa has the same situation. In my org, it was generally considered to be out-ethics to do so. But, people still did it.&#8221;</p>
<p>TC : Yeah,  PR Org&#8217;s ED always considered it an act of &#8220;treason&#8221; to go to ITD or Venezuela to just get cheaper rates. The irony of this is,  that when one of these &#8220;big donators&#8221; wanted to go elsewhere to get professional auditing,  they never objected to it,  but actually HELPED the cycle happen. Like this sudden WISE  &#8220;celebrity&#8221;,  Gabriel Fernandez,  a PR Org public. But when the ones who never donated more than $100 (because they REALLY had lots of finacial difficulties, and what Scientologist doesn&#8217;t)  wanted to go as their ONLY available solution to fulfill their becoming Clear dream , then they put a lot of stops on that public,  even introverting him/her by accusing them of being &#8220;out-ethics&#8221;. How&#8217;s that for being hypocrites ?</p>
<p>The fact is that PR&#8217;s &#8220;professional&#8221; auditing left much to be desired. A bunch of totally robotic auditors whose handling of the Tech looked like a 5 year old kid. PR&#8217;s org has always been the champion of the squirrels. As an VERY ilustrative example,  this WISE &#8220;celebrity&#8221; , Gabriel Fernandez got trained as a Class IV some decades ago. He was the &#8220;hot-shot&#8221; of the moment as 1) the org had no fucking auditors available besides their English-only speaking Snr C/S , Jim Bates (a graduate class auditor and<br />
 C/S) ; 2) He had money,  and PR Org just love to propitiate to the &#8220;rich&#8221; ones,  you know,  and kiss their asses ; 3) His sister (Gigi Gernandez) was a world reknown tennis player , an olympic gold medal winner. </p>
<p>So this &#8220;hot-shot&#8221; , an GAT 1 class IV graduate,  audited a very dear friend of mine. This is the good part ; while IN-SESSION with my friend,  he told her,  &#8220;You know that you are being audited by an OT,  an OT III,  don&#8217;t you ? , you are not being audited by just anybody here ?&#8221;. They guy wasn&#8217;t even Clear! He was allegedly C/Sed for the CCRD (which of course,  PR has never been able to deliver it) , and when eventually arrived at Flag for that,  he was sent back todo ALL his Grades!!! I am not kidding here ; this actually happened.He was talking about his own case in session with his PC!!! What a marvelous GAT magnificent &#8220;standard&#8221; auditor!!! And he used to originate all kind of distractions and arbitraries in session. </p>
<p>Another class IV GAT 1 graduate auditor,  a medical doctor not just some college drop-out,  audited another friend of mine. While in session my friend hit a charged incident and began to cry. This marvelous auditor,  this representation of the most Standard training program ever developed,  while IN-SESSION,  told my friend,  &#8220;you poor baby,  are you okay ? , that&#8217;s all right,  just relax&#8221;. I am NOT pulling your leg here,  this ACTUALLY happened. </p>
<p>These were the &#8220;standard&#8221; PR org auditors. Who the hell would not have wanted to go else where to get professional auditing ? PR has always been a totally worthless org after Don Pfendler left. Susan Marino took over,  and it all went to shit. And I got caught in the middle due to my non-comformist nature,  and got busted. After I made her look bad,  when I stopped her from not letting others go to where ever the hell they wanted to to get their auditing , she always hated my guts. A lot of people did,  as I never agreed to any of their criminal actions. I always fought back. I&#8217;ve never been a god-damn victim. </p>
<p>&#8220;Based on your stories about PR Org, it’s no wonder why they are non-existent and failing. Hell, they probably SHOULD be shutdown.&#8221;</p>
<p>TC : They should,  all right. The thing is that once I start something,  there us no turning back for me. I either win or die ; I know of no middle stops. I don&#8217;t believe in defeats. But I need to get finantially ready first. If my plans happens as I am coordinating them,  I&#8217;ll be ready for the big fight soon enough. </p>
<p>&#8220;In PR, ever run into Sue Marino? Former Miami staff, married to the Snr C/S NY at one time.&#8221;</p>
<p>TC : Well,  may be you are referring to &#8220;Susan Marino,  married to Jim Bates former Snr C/S of the Org who also C/Sed for Miami and New York,  I guess. She is from Venezuela, I think,  and he is a blue-eyed blond &#8220;gringo&#8221;. If that&#8217;s the case,  I SURE know her. She has been the ED for the last 2-3 decades. </p>
<p>Take care,  Statpush.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
TC</p>
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		By: BlindersOff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/puerto-rico-more-ideal-org-fail/#comment-108315&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Tidbits for Niblet.]]></description>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/puerto-rico-more-ideal-org-fail/#comment-108239&quot;&gt;BlindersOff&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Render unto Rinder the things that are Rinder&#039;s, and unto Niblet the things that are Niblet&#039;s.&quot;]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Render unto Rinder the things that are Rinder&#8217;s, and unto Niblet the things that are Niblet&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/puerto-rico-more-ideal-org-fail/#comment-108159&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Early on, somewhat begrudgingly at first I came to the conclusion, the vast entity known as scientology management is fucking nuts.&quot;

You cracked me up with that one, Yawn.  I, too came to that conclusion, with the same reluctance.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Early on, somewhat begrudgingly at first I came to the conclusion, the vast entity known as scientology management is fucking nuts.&#8221;</p>
<p>You cracked me up with that one, Yawn.  I, too came to that conclusion, with the same reluctance.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 21:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi all...

Newbie here. I&#039;ve been reading Mike&#039;s blog for some time now (Tony&#039;s, too). I get a kick out of your posts - the humorous ones..obviously not the serious ones..lol. I have a lot of respect for what Mike and Tony do, as well as all you exes who speak out against this disgusting organization. Can&#039;t wait to read the upcoming books by Ron Miscavige, Sr. and Leah Remini. I just ordered A Piece Of Blue Sky by Jon Atack. 

The flyers that Mike posts just kill me. It really does boggle the mind that still-ins buy into that shit. I watched a YouTube video yesterday called &quot;stupid things Scientologists say&quot;. Not that I hadn&#039;t seen many videos like that before, but this one just got under my skin. A woman was asked if a court document proving Narconon deaths would be enough for her to believe it and she basically said no. Un-f**king-believable. They simply don&#039;t want to know or see. Infuriating and sad all at the same time. 

Anyway, I&#039;m rambling. It&#039;s good to finally be posting. Cheers!]]></description>
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<p>Newbie here. I&#8217;ve been reading Mike&#8217;s blog for some time now (Tony&#8217;s, too). I get a kick out of your posts &#8211; the humorous ones..obviously not the serious ones..lol. I have a lot of respect for what Mike and Tony do, as well as all you exes who speak out against this disgusting organization. Can&#8217;t wait to read the upcoming books by Ron Miscavige, Sr. and Leah Remini. I just ordered A Piece Of Blue Sky by Jon Atack. </p>
<p>The flyers that Mike posts just kill me. It really does boggle the mind that still-ins buy into that shit. I watched a YouTube video yesterday called &#8220;stupid things Scientologists say&#8221;. Not that I hadn&#8217;t seen many videos like that before, but this one just got under my skin. A woman was asked if a court document proving Narconon deaths would be enough for her to believe it and she basically said no. Un-f**king-believable. They simply don&#8217;t want to know or see. Infuriating and sad all at the same time. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m rambling. It&#8217;s good to finally be posting. Cheers!</p>
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